freetoroam Posted November 2, 2018 #26 Share Posted November 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: I hope you are just joking with that explanation. Why? It is a 3 hour drive, if he set out on the Monday, he would have arrived on the Monday. A whole 10 days later would not be Thursday. My point is, he does not say he stopped anywhere overnight. As it is the story does not make sense, so throwing in that years later he starts recalling aliens, makes it even worse. We do not know if during those years he had any mental issues or anything about his life style and yet you want to believe him from this bit of flimsy story? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted November 2, 2018 #27 Share Posted November 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: I'll consider everyone and everything. I think it is more likely than not that these implants are non-e How? Have you actually seen one? Have you had one examined? Have you watched it on youtube? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the frog Posted November 2, 2018 #28 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Claim are claim.... I can claim that i'm a pure breed golden retriever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted November 2, 2018 #29 Share Posted November 2, 2018 5 minutes ago, freetoroam said: Why? It is a 3 hour drive, if he set out on the Monday, he would have arrived on the Monday. A whole 10 days later would not be Thursday. My point is, he does not say he stopped anywhere overnight. As it is the story does not make sense, so throwing in that years later he starts recalling aliens, makes it even worse. We do not know if during those years he had any mental issues or anything about his life style and yet you want to believe him from this bit of flimsy story? I am assuming at least a minimal level of competence for the guy from what I read. You are creating a real crackpot whose story I doubt would have gotten this far to reach our attention. A Thursday of the week after can be considered ten days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted November 2, 2018 #30 Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 hour ago, XenoFish said: Maybe, if you posted it on a UFO story site where no one questions your claimed events. Then sure you've got a point. To add, pulling any metal out of your body hurts. Steel, cast iron, copper, aluminum, stainless steel, brass and bronze. All of it is a pain. It's not too bad if it's been in there for decades and it's just a splinter. Didn't hurt more than a little wood splinter really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted November 2, 2018 #31 Share Posted November 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, freetoroam said: How? Have you actually seen one? Have you had one examined? Have you watched it on youtube? I have heard about them from multiple sources. One of the most compelling pieces was a documentary called Patient 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted November 2, 2018 #32 Share Posted November 2, 2018 18 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: So then we are left with only relying on so-called skeptics? And to me they are often even more driven by agenda (anti-alien). I'll consider everyone and everything. I think it is more likely than not that these implants are non-earthly and I've given this some looking into. It's not being a skeptic to consider the reliability of evidence. It is a necessity. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted November 2, 2018 #33 Share Posted November 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, freetoroam said: and yet you want to believe him Therein lies the reason that he can't look at it objectively. I too would like to believe that aliens are visiting the earth, but there is just no way anyone that looks at the evidence objectively can do that. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted November 2, 2018 #34 Share Posted November 2, 2018 Just now, OverSword said: It's not being a skeptic to consider the reliability of evidence. It is a necessity. I agree with that and we should all consider the reliability of evidence and this requires objectivity. I also judge that many so-called skeptics are not really skeptics but people who have developed an anti-alien agenda with reliability, objectivity and honesty losing the driver's seat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted November 2, 2018 #35 Share Posted November 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: I agree with that and we should all consider the reliability of evidence and this requires objectivity. I also judge that many so-called skeptics are not really skeptics but people who have developed an anti-alien agenda with reliability, objectivity and honesty losing the driver's seat. It's not an anti-alien agenda to note that there is an absence of any evidence that aliens visit us. If that doesn't convince you then the completely logical and common sense arguments against it should. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiff Posted November 2, 2018 #36 Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 hour ago, papageorge1 said: I think I just employ more sophisticated reasoning skills 1 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted November 2, 2018 #37 Share Posted November 2, 2018 4 hours ago, papageorge1 said: I think the cumulative weight of evidence passes tipping point by now. And there are more things like implants, etc. than maybe I want to argue about with this clique. what= the logic & common sense clique do you mean? yeah of course- go discuss it with the fantasy clique.. it'll be easier & more fun for you.. enjoy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 2, 2018 #38 Share Posted November 2, 2018 43 minutes ago, OverSword said: It's not being a skeptic to consider the reliability of evidence. It is a necessity. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted November 2, 2018 #39 Share Posted November 2, 2018 1 hour ago, papageorge1 said: I think I just employ more sophisticated reasoning skills you 'think' you do= to most in here it's more of an entertainment than anything else... but deep down you know that, don't ya 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted November 2, 2018 #40 Share Posted November 2, 2018 58 minutes ago, OverSword said: It's not an anti-alien agenda to note that there is an absence of any evidence that aliens visit us. Well we differ then on whether there is an absences of evidence. Not surprising between us 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted November 2, 2018 #41 Share Posted November 2, 2018 20 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: Well we differ then on whether there is an absences of evidence. Not surprising between us Well if you would care to post any evidence I would be interested. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted November 2, 2018 #42 Share Posted November 2, 2018 2 hours ago, papageorge1 said: A Thursday of the week after can be considered ten days. No it can not. You do not have to be Carol Vorderman to work that it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted November 2, 2018 #43 Share Posted November 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Jon the frog said: Claim are claim.... I can claim that i'm a pure breed golden retriever. Can you woof that? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 2, 2018 #44 Share Posted November 2, 2018 35 minutes ago, OverSword said: Well if you would care to post any evidence I would be interested. That is asking the impossible. He never does. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted November 2, 2018 #45 Share Posted November 2, 2018 18 minutes ago, XenoFish said: That is asking the impossible. He never does. Well we can give him a chance without proactively attacking him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted November 3, 2018 #46 Share Posted November 3, 2018 31 minutes ago, OverSword said: Well we can give him a chance without proactively attacking him. No need to attack when you already know the results. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted November 3, 2018 #47 Share Posted November 3, 2018 36 minutes ago, OverSword said: Well we can give him a chance without proactively attacking him. give him a chance to do 'WHAT'?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted November 3, 2018 #48 Share Posted November 3, 2018 22 minutes ago, Dejarma said: give him a chance to do 'WHAT'?? Present proof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted November 3, 2018 #49 Share Posted November 3, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, OverSword said: Present proof edit to add: sorry, i was debating what smiley to use- it was either or or so i'll give it a: & --- now what? any suggestions? Edited November 3, 2018 by Dejarma 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Walt' E. Kurtz Posted November 3, 2018 #50 Share Posted November 3, 2018 He should have gone to specsavers he actually spent some days with some sheep as it happened in NZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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