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Rob Awesome

I watch the news daily and when Jamal Khashoggi was murdered the press started talking about Prince Mohammed Bin Salman. 

Us Westerners are lazy speakers and hate long names so reporters started referring to him as MBS. This of course started me thinking of Nostradamus.

I have no strong feelings about the Prince or Saudi Arabia in general I just thought it was an interesting coincidence worth sharing.

 

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Not A Rockstar

So I assume Nos mentions a Mabus somewhere? 

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Not A Rockstar

For anyone interested I found this link, which is to an ad for a book but if you read it, it summarizes what one guy claims Nos said about the three anti-Christs and the final one (Mabus). http://www.hogueprophecy.com/mabus/

By Hogue, and I am not into Nos enough to know if it is even close to the prophecies, etc, just what I found with 5 minutes messing around.

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They've been rearranging the letters twice every decade to make it fit a present villain (or VIP). Saddam, Bin Laden & Obama were the latest hits.

Truth is probably that Mabus was equal to Flemish painter Jan Gossaert de Mabuse.

Source: https://www.quora.com/According-to-nostradamus-who-is-mabus

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Not A Rockstar

It seems like alleged quotes from the Quran. If you actually look them up they are not there. It is just hate or hype.

I never got into Nos, but, I suspect there is nothing so clear as that ad I linked to claims that he actually said. 

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Orphalesion
8 minutes ago, Not A Rockstar said:

So I assume Nos mentions a Mabus somewhere? 

Mabus will soon die, then will come,
A horrible undoing of people and animals,
At once one will see vengeance,
One hundred powers, thirst, famine, when the comet will pass.

So yeah pretty much the same bull**** Nostradamus says in all of his quatrains. Comets, gloom & doom porntm and made up words that can easily put into any flimsy context the interpreter fancies, as the OP shows.

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Not A Rockstar

Thanks for this Orph. I got sucked in by an incomplete OP post and couldn't help myself :). 

Back in my teens I read through some Nos and had to put it down. Just too out there even for prophecy for me and you KNOW I get into the obscure. That is just.... anyway I am not a Nos guy. Nuff said :D 

Prophecies are not cut in stone, we never lose free will and anything that old has shifted even if it was true then. Useless stuff now tbh, speaking from a non-skeptic point of view.

Off now for some fresh coffee. Priorities :)

 

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Personally i don't think Nostradamus could or did predict anything it is just interesting how you can apply a quatrain to just about anyone or any event.  No one mentioned MBS yet so I thought I'd throw it out there

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Rob Awesome
4 minutes ago, Not A Rockstar said:

Thanks for this Orph. I got sucked in by an incomplete OP post and couldn't help myself :). 

Back in my teens I read through some Nos and had to put it down. Just too out there even for prophecy for me and you KNOW I get into the obscure. That is just.... anyway I am not a Nos guy. Nuff said :D 

Prophecies are not cut in stone, we never lose free will and anything that old has shifted even if it was true then. Useless stuff now tbh, speaking from a non-skeptic point of view.

Off now for some fresh coffee. Priorities :)

 

Mr apologies for the incomplete post, stay at home dad with angry little ones, tried tossing my thoughts out during nap but nap got cut short 

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Not A Rockstar
6 minutes ago, Rob Awesome said:

Mr apologies for the incomplete post, stay at home dad with angry little ones, tried tossing my thoughts out during nap but nap got cut short 

no problem, just not sure which direction to take it in and was curious enough to poke a bit farther.

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55 minutes ago, Not A Rockstar said:

Thanks for this Orph. I got sucked in by an incomplete OP post and couldn't help myself :). 

Back in my teens I read through some Nos and had to put it down. Just too out there even for prophecy for me and you KNOW I get into the obscure. That is just.... anyway I am not a Nos guy. Nuff said :D 

Prophecies are not cut in stone, we never lose free will and anything that old has shifted even if it was true then. Useless stuff now tbh, speaking from a non-skeptic point of view.

Off now for some fresh coffee. Priorities :)

 

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I read a lot of commentary on some of the prophecies that I believe are near fulfillment.  While I agree with the premise that man never loses his free will, I think that prophecies actually ARE "cut in stone".  Of course, my perspective springs from my faith but even those who don't believe might want to consider that there just might be an intelligence behind this creation and that intelligence could well have crunched all the numbers of possible permutations and saw and related what will eventually be.  I think the lynchpin is the inherent animal nature of our species.  Have you ever investigated the book of Ezekiel, chapters 37-39?  It's really worth a read.  Briefly, he relays the message that after a time of worldwide dispersion, Jacob's (Israel's) descendants will flow back to their land from every point of the compass.  Then, at a time of peace and prosperity, they will be overrun by a coalition of enemies.  The leader is a mysterious person known as Gog of Magog.  There is dispute over where he will come from but the other members of the group are well identified.  Turkey, Iran (Persia), Sudan, and several of the former southern Russian Republics.  The commonality today is Islam which wouldn't exist for nearly 3 millennia from the time he wrote.  A quick look at the players in the M.E. today shows that Russia, Iran, and Turkey are onsite and beginning to growl.  I don't think the attack comes until after a peace treaty is signed and partially implemented.

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Not A Rockstar

Yes, @and then , Armaggedon and God.

Fatima, Lourdes are out there. Total free will and they could change their minds and change it all. It is not in granite.

What is seems to be rebellion and that will prove out for the many, but not the all.

JMO.

But, as you say, this is a matter of faith. Not Nos at all.

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RabidMongoose
20 hours ago, Rob Awesome said:

I watch the news daily and when Jamal Khashoggi was murdered the press started talking about Prince Mohammed Bin Salman. 

Us Westerners are lazy speakers and hate long names so reporters started referring to him as MBS. This of course started me thinking of Nostradamus.

I have no strong feelings about the Prince or Saudi Arabia in general I just thought it was an interesting coincidence worth sharing.

 

Most sources on Nostradamus are unreliable. The test? See if they claim he predicted Hitler. He didnt. Hister is the old French word for river and has nothing to do with the Fuhrer.

If they cannot get the basics right, take what they say he predicted with a pinch of salt. And seek out more reliable sources instead.

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Sir Wearer of Hats
On 08/11/2018 at 5:42 AM, and then said:

I read a lot of commentary on some of the prophecies that I believe are near fulfillment.  While I agree with the premise that man never loses his free will, I think that prophecies actually ARE "cut in stone".  Of course, my perspective springs from my faith but even those who don't believe might want to consider that there just might be an intelligence behind this creation and that intelligence could well have crunched all the numbers of possible permutations and saw and related what will eventually be.  I think the lynchpin is the inherent animal nature of our species.  Have you ever investigated the book of Ezekiel, chapters 37-39?  It's really worth a read.  Briefly, he relays the message that after a time of worldwide dispersion, Jacob's (Israel's) descendants will flow back to their land from every point of the compass.  Then, at a time of peace and prosperity, they will be overrun by a coalition of enemies.  The leader is a mysterious person known as Gog of Magog.  There is dispute over where he will come from but the other members of the group are well identified.  Turkey, Iran (Persia), Sudan, and several of the former southern Russian Republics.  The commonality today is Islam which wouldn't exist for nearly 3 millennia from the time he wrote.  A quick look at the players in the M.E. today shows that Russia, Iran, and Turkey are onsite and beginning to growl.  I don't think the attack comes until after a peace treaty is signed and partially implemented.

I always thought that Gog of Magog was an allusion to the factvthe leader will have a name very much Ike that of the country he leads. 

Like Erica from America.

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2 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

I always thought that Gog of Magog was an allusion to the factvthe leader will have a name very much Ike that of the country he leads. 

Like Erica from America.

The truth won't be revealed until it's time for it.  Maybe you're correct.  The various commentaries I've read seem to agree that Gog will be a leader of a land to the extreme north of Israel.  Some say it's Turkey but most think it's Russia.  I find the confluence of events in the ME just now to be rather ominous due to all the potential players in this predicted invasion being drawn in and focused on Israel. Ezekiel 38:11 

"You will say, "I will invade a land of unwalled villages; I will attack a peaceful and unsuspecting people--all of them living without walls and without gates and bars."

That condition certainly doesn't seem to describe Israel today but if Trump can pressure the Arab nations into a pact with Israel that the Palestinians must accept, the peace may be real enough to cause Israel to relax its defenses after a few years.  The real key here is the details of the peace agreement.  If it is designed to be implemented over 7 years with confidence-building measures, then we can know that a great cataclysm is near to hand.

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Timothy
On 08/11/2018 at 4:58 AM, Rob Awesome said:

I watch the news daily and when Jamal Khashoggi was murdered the press started talking about Prince Mohammed Bin Salman. 

Us Westerners are lazy speakers and hate long names so reporters started referring to him as MBS. This of course started me thinking of Nostradamus.

I have no strong feelings about the Prince or Saudi Arabia in general I just thought it was an interesting coincidence worth sharing.

Can you please explain what of it started you thinking of Nostradamus? 

Also, what’s the ‘interesting coincidence’?

Trying to understand where you’re coming from is all.

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