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Honoring Victims of Communism

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freetoroam

Good, many lives were lost and many suffered.

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We also reaffirm our steadfast support for those who strive for peace, prosperity, and freedom around the world.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/presidential-message-national-day-victims-communism/

Not too sure some Mexicans would agree about the support bit, seeing as it is coming from the Whitehouse, but the idea sounds good. 

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seanjo
20 minutes ago, freetoroam said:

Good, many lives were lost and many suffered.

Not too sure some Mexicans would agree about the support bit, seeing as it is coming from the Whitehouse, but the idea sounds good. 

Support doesn't mean allowing the breaking of legal border controls.

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seanjo

What a great idea, Communism and the far left need demonising the same way Fascism has been demonised.

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third_eye

Good ... very good ... Now let's have a closer look from all sides ... First the Communists got slaughtered and massacred in Shanghai
 

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The Shanghai massacre of April 12, 1927, known commonly in China as the April 12 Incident, ..... Political and cultural purges · Republic of China (1912–49) · White Terror · Communist Party of China · 1920s in Shanghai · Chinese war crimes ...
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The Shanghai Massacre, an attack on Chinese communists ordered by right wing ... and several years of anti-communist violence, dubbed the 'White Terror'.
 
White Terror (mainland China) The Shanghai massacre of 12 April 1927, also called the April 12 Incident, was the violent suppression of Communist Party of ...


 

 

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... and then they, the perpetrators absconded to continue the business as usual in Taiwan

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In Taiwan, the White Terror was the suppression of political dissidents following the February .... Lin, Sylvia Li-chun (2007). Representing Atrocity in Taiwan : The 2/28 Incident and White Terror in Fiction and Film. New York: Columbia University ...
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Feb 28, 2017 - China put down the revolt with brutal repression, terror, and massacre. ... acknowledged such atrocities had occurred in a sanctioned report. ... as other relatives, what it had been like to live through the reign of White Terror.
 
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Feb 27, 2017 - Taiwan has admirably worked towards addressing the horrors of the White Terror. In 1995, President Lee Tung-hui officially apologized for the ...
 
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Mar 13, 2016 - Calls are mounting in Taiwan for the government to look into the White Terror, a dark period in its history when hundreds of dissidents were ...
 
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Let's add all these uncountable numbers of victims to the non Communist KMT butchers now shall we ...
 
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third_eye

Its late, or too early in the morning actually ... in parting, let's spare a thought for these 'evil' Communists too while we're at it ...

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Children Of Agent Orange (Vietnam War Documentary) | Timeline

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And with that , I bid thee all ... a fond Good night ...

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aztek

look at communist china during mao, and ussr during stalin, both killed millions of their own people,   the biggest threat to a communist living in a communist country is its own gvmnt, not capitalists, imperialist or any other ists

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third_eye
6 hours ago, aztek said:

... not capitalists, imperialist or any other ists

You need a recount there O' RESIDENT TROLL ... all imperialists has the numbers there, not any other ists

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Agent0range
9 hours ago, seanjo said:

What a great idea, Communism and the far left need demonising the same way Fascism has been demonised.

The definition of fascism:

1. often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

Are you saying that SHOULDN'T be demonized?  

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

 

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seanjo
5 hours ago, Agent0range said:

The definition of fascism:

1. often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

Are you saying that SHOULDN'T be demonized?  

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fascism

 

No, I said Communism should be demonised in the same way, it's there in plain English.

While you have that definition in front of you; what is the difference between fascism and communism, going by that definition?

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seanjo
14 hours ago, third_eye said:

Good ... very good ... Now let's have a closer look from all sides ... First the Communists got slaughtered and massacred in Shanghai
 

 

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... and then they, the perpetrators absconded to continue the business as usual in Taiwan

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Let's add all these uncountable numbers of victims to the non Communist KMT butchers now shall we ...
 
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And how many Vietnamese were murdered by the Communists during and after the War?

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third_eye
1 hour ago, seanjo said:

And how many Vietnamese were murdered by the Communists during and after the War?

You tell me ... go ahead lie to me ... you know how the world loves the way it lies ....

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seanjo
Just now, third_eye said:

You tell me ... go ahead lie to me ... you know how the world loves the way it lies ....

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So you don't care! You'll just apologise for Communist atrocities despite the fact they out-number any other apart from Islam's (possibly)

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third_eye
Just now, seanjo said:

So you don't care! You'll just apologise for Communist atrocities despite the fact they out-number any other apart from Islam's (possibly)

So you care so much you are willing to lie with the lies, here ... read what your Government lies along with the US Administration of the day and still continue to lie about the numbers ...
 

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seanjo
18 minutes ago, third_eye said:

So you care so much you are willing to lie with the lies, here ... read what your Government lies along with the US Administration of the day and still continue to lie about the numbers ...
 

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What lie?

I'm British mate, we didn't take part in the Viet Nam War. The Viet Kong murdered 100's of thousands, if not millions, of its own people during and after the war. You're just another US hater.

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third_eye
4 hours ago, seanjo said:

What lie?

I'm British mate, we didn't take part in the Viet Nam War. The Viet Kong murdered 100's of thousands, if not millions, of its own people during and after the war. You're just another US hater.

The only reason I am replying to this nonsense of yours is because you did directly addressed it to me, as unfortunate as it sounds,Thanks for the chuckle sonny, but feel free to ignore me, come to think of it, calling me out as a US hater is quite the honor coming from such an exceptional Brit such as yourself ... Ahhhh Sir Spike Milligan would have had a good chuffaw over that one, ahhhh god bless that drunk and rest his soul, he's the barmey one he was

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seanjo
1 minute ago, third_eye said:

The only reason I am replying to this nonsense of yours is because you did directly addressed it to me, as unfortunate as it sounds,Thanks for the chuckle sonny, but feel free to ignore me, come to think of it, calling me out as a US hater is quite the honor coming from such an exceptional Brit such as yourself ... Ahhhh Sir Spike Milligan would have had a good chuffaw over that one, ahhhh god bless that drunk and rest his soul, he's the barmey one he was

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So you've got nothing and have to resort to ad hominem...

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third_eye
7 minutes ago, seanjo said:

So you've got nothing and have to resort to ad hominem...

CHORTLE !!!!

4 hours ago, seanjo said:

You're just another US hater.

THanks for the laffs Guv'nor . its been a long week and gawd knoweth I needed it ...

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jbondo

How ironic this is as America hurtles headlong into communism's evil twin, socialism. Hey, I didn't say identical twins, but close enough, nonetheless. Not even Trump is going to stop it. In fact, I predict a openly socialist president will be elected within the next 8 years. Heaven help us...Oh wait, God is no longer welcome in America.

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third_eye
5 minutes ago, jbondo said:

Heaven help us...Oh wait, God is no longer welcome in America.

Heaven can't , God doesn't require formal invitations. Until something can be done about the deficits, there is really little other tangible options available, which is something half of the US will die rather than subject themselves to. So someone better come up with some good ideas or all this would drag on for ages until pushes comes to shoves. I don't believe some cartoon character purported to have super human capabilities or is divinely chosen would solve anything but hey ... this is America, so who knows eh ?

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Black Red Devil
4 hours ago, jbondo said:

How ironic this is as America hurtles headlong into communism's evil twin, socialism. Hey, I didn't say identical twins, but close enough, nonetheless. Not even Trump is going to stop it. In fact, I predict a openly socialist president will be elected within the next 8 years. Heaven help us...Oh wait, God is no longer welcome in America.

Socialism never caused the human massacres fascism and communism have perpetrated in recent history.  You've got a long way to go before assuming communism and socialism are twins and they're probably more apart than what communism and fascism are towards each other.  Just because a country wants to call itself socialist doesn't mean its ideology is based on such fundamentals.  North Korea calls itself the Democratic People's Republic of Korea and they're everything but democratic.

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aztek
Just now, Black Red Devil said:

Socialism never caused the human massacres fascism and communism have perpetrated in recent history.  You've got a long way to go before assuming communism and socialism are twins and they're probably more apart than what communism and fascism are towards each other.  Just because a country wants to call itself socialist doesn't mean its ideology is based on such fundamentals.  North Korea calls itself the Democratic People's Republic of Korea and they're everything but democratic.

he is absolutely correct , socialism is a mid point to a communism, socialism is not an end game, it's just means to get to communism.   all we need to do is look at how good socialist countries look like now, 

it is not about what country wants to call themselves it is principles, btw ussr (united soviet socialist republics) was never a communist country, it was socialist on the way to communism,, and Stalin killed millions

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Setton
45 minutes ago, aztek said:

he is absolutely correct , socialism is a mid point to a communism, socialism is not an end game, it's just means to get to communism.   all we need to do is look at how good socialist countries look like now, 

it is not about what country wants to call themselves it is principles, btw ussr (united soviet socialist republics) was never a communist country, it was socialist on the way to communism,, and Stalin killed millions

Once again, you completely miss the difference between state socialism and a socialist state. 

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Black Red Devil
2 minutes ago, aztek said:

he is absolutely correct , socialism is a mid point to a communism, socialism is not an end game, it's just means to get to communism.   all we need to do is look at how good socialist countries look like now, 

it is not about what country wants to call themselves it is principles, btw ussr was never a communist country, it was socialist, and Stalin killed millions

I think you need to do a bit more research.  The USSR was totally a typical communist creation and the same was China until they embraced capitalism.  Communism and fascism follow autocratic rule, socialism doesn't.  Hence the reason communism and fascism are closer on a political level.  Economically communism and socialism do follow similar principles of spreading more equally their productive wealth which is the reason Capitalism doesn't agree with their ideologies.  Venezuela is more like a communist country.

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