Is Trump really like a dictator?

[toast]

10 minutes ago, joc said:

 Wait....forget it...ANY comparisons to anything of that era is a bad idea....never mind...

It was an era of hate, torture, persecution, oppression, murder and death.

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So...rhetoric is rhetoric...similarities in rhetoric do not a Nazi make.  That's all I was really saying Toast. 

All I was saying is that the clown is using Nazi rhetoric and Nazi like propaganda, I didnt said he is a Nazi (yet).

 

 

[+joc]

Just now, toast said:

It was an era of hate, torture, persecution, oppression, murder and death.

All I was saying is that the clown is using Nazi rhetoric and Nazi like propaganda, I didnt said he is a Nazi (yet).

 

 

Got it. 

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Food fight!

 

[zep73]

1 hour ago, TomasaurusREKT said:

Oh yeah how so? Because I'll tell you what, I'm making more money than I have in my entire life. If him making the economy turn around and bring in more work than there has been in my entire life is destroying something that took decades to build is what he's doing, then I hope he continues to do so.

See what I can't stand is the liberal NPC mentality. They told you how to feel, and you obliged. He's doing great, sure he should put down Twitter but I don't care. I hope he destroys everything the liberals tried to build, like convincing a 5 year old he's allowed to choose his gender. Liberals have destroyed the American family and any sense of direction a kid should feel. Then you wonder why you have a bunch of self entitled little punks shooting up schools. But the idiots will sit there and blame the gun. It's disgusting.

I'm pleased to hear of your good financial fortune, I just hope that it's not based on something that our descendants will pay the price for.

Where I'm from liberalism is equal to independence. That the authorities should mind their own business, unless to protect and to serve. Is that bad? I also believe that a society is as good as the well being of its weakest citizens. Some call that socialism, I call it decency.

5 year olds should not be able to make life altering decisions. Only fools would allow that.

Guns should be controlled much better in the US, not because they commit any crimes, but because they make it so much easier for idiots and crazies to do so.

Edited November 18, 2018 by sci-nerd

[Farmer77]

2 hours ago, Myles said:

Thanks you for proving it was made up news.  

 

Prove my ass the dude straight mocked the exact movements of the handicapped dude and the attempts at justifying it are simply gross

[Farmer77]

2 hours ago, TomasaurusREKT said:

Oh yeah how so? Because I'll tell you what, I'm making more money than I have in my entire life. If him making the economy turn around and bring in more work than there has been in my entire life is destroying something that took decades to build is what he's doing, then I hope he continues to do so.

You do understand he didnt actually turn the economy around right? Had he "turned the economy around" he would have been ending 8 years of an improving economy. He is simply the benefactor of a continuing trend.

Just one example ...and there are many

 

 

 

 

[+joc]

57 minutes ago, sci-nerd said:

I'm pleased to hear of your good financial fortune, I just hope that it's not based on something that our descendants will pay the price for.

Where I'm from liberalism is equal to independence. That the authorities should mind their own business, unless to protect and to serve. Is that bad? I also believe that a society is as good as the well being of its weakest citizens. Some call that socialism, I call it decency.

5 year olds should not be able to make life altering decisions. Only fools would allow that.

Guns should be controlled much better in the US, not because they commit any crimes, but because they make it so much easier for idiots and crazies to do so.

We do have a very large homeless problem...

We do have a very large crime /drug problem...

And we do have a very large mental health problem...

At the core..I think...is a very large justice/plea_agreement problem.

Incarceration is not the answer to murder..Swift Capital punishment is..

Just thinking outloud...spawned by your post.

 

[+joc]

2 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

You do understand he didnt actually turn the economy around right? Had he "turned the economy around" he would have been ending 8 years of an improving economy. He is simply the benefactor of a continuing trend.

Just one example ...and there are many

 

 

 

 

Must you re-regurgitate the same erroneous propaganda?

[Farmer77]

1 minute ago, joc said:

Must you re-regurgitate the same erroneous propaganda?

You guys are regurgitating the same erroneous propaganda. Im supplying facts to counter that. Facts which come directly from the government.

If you have actual facts to prove me wrong id be more than glad to accept them. Facts matter

Edited November 18, 2018 by Farmer77

[TomasaurusREKT]

Oh yes. Because Obummer was clearly bringing up the economy. Creating sheep who rely on the government for hand outs really helps bring jobs to the country... Smfh

Edited November 18, 2018 by TomasaurusREKT

[Gromdor]

9 minutes ago, TomasaurusREKT said:

Oh yes. Because Obummer was clearly bringing up the economy. Creating sheep who rely on the government for hand outs really helps bring jobs to the country... Smfh

Well yeah. The only difference is that the Republicans give the government handouts to corporations instead of people.

[zep73]

10 minutes ago, joc said:

Incarceration is not the answer to murder..Swift Capital punishment is.

I understand the temptation to get rid of dangerous people by executing them, but it isn't the task of a modern state to kill. That is ancient practice.
If the day comes when no county in the world executes, we can call our whole world modern.

So what to do then? Well I have some ideas, depending on how dangerous people are. The most dangerous could be put on a lonely island in the Pacific, where they could kill each other if they want. The less dangerous ones should be rehabilitated, so they can become better citizens.
If someone kills a murderer for revenge, the punishment should be symbolic.

[TomasaurusREKT]

26 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

Well yeah. The only difference is that the Republicans give the government handouts to corporations instead of people.

Which in turn kept their employees what? Oh yeah... EMPLOYED.

[Harte]

3 hours ago, toast said:

I didnt said they dont happen here, but thanks for the link anyway. If you look into the figures you will see that the list starts in 1913 (one-nine-one-three) and ends in 2016. In that period of time, 103 years, there were 80 (eight-zero) fatalities by mass shootings here in Germany and thats 0,77 fatalities by mass shootings per year here in Germany.

Please be so kind and provide the number of fatalities by mass shootings in the US in between 1913 and 2016, just for comparison purposes and to judge which of our both countries is the safer place to stay.

Much larger, of course. More people and more guns, and likely a different definition of fatalities by mass shootings. Here, if a husband shoots and  kills his wife with dementia and then himself, that's a mass shooting.

Harte

[Harte]

3 hours ago, toast said:

Its disgusting that self entitled little punks are allowed to own/buy guns in the US. But, hell no, thats not the problem blahblahblah ...

I'm not aware of any self-entitled punks that shot up a school having actually purchased or even owned the guns used.

Harte

[Harte]

2 hours ago, sci-nerd said:

I'm pleased to hear of your good financial fortune, I just hope that it's not based on something that our descendants will pay the price for.

Where I'm from liberalism is equal to independence. That the authorities should mind their own business, unless to protect and to serve. Is that bad? I also believe that a society is as good as the well being of its weakest citizens. Some call that socialism, I call it decency.

5 year olds should not be able to make life altering decisions. Only fools would allow that.

Guns should be controlled much better in the US, not because they commit any crimes, but because they make it so much easier for idiots and crazies to do so.

Are you aware of the vast number of gun regulations already in place in the USA?

The cause of this problem is that it is a liberty written into the US Constitution.

There are limits to the amount of regulation that would be constitutionally sound enough to withstand the scrutiny of a legal challenge.

Harte

[Harte]

1 hour ago, Farmer77 said:

Prove my ass the dude straight mocked the exact movements of the handicapped dude and the attempts at justifying it are simply gross

The article proves you're just hanging desperately onto something that you NEED to be true about Trump.

Harte

[Likely Guy]

19 minutes ago, Harte said:

Much larger, of course. More people and more guns, and likely a different definition of fatalities by mass shootings. Here, if a husband shoots and  kills his wife with dementia and then himself, that's a mass shooting.

Harte

Um, no.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shooting

[Harte]

1 hour ago, Farmer77 said:

You guys are regurgitating the same erroneous propaganda. Im supplying facts to counter that. Facts which come directly from the government.

If you have actual facts to prove me wrong id be more than glad to accept them. Facts matter

Hardly a Trump-friendly source: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/09/07/how-trump-has-set-economic-growth-on-fire.html

Harte

[Harte]

2 minutes ago, Likely Guy said:

Um, no.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shooting

Yeah, forgot about the kid. Point is, family "mass murder" can be accomplished without guns, and you're not gonna argue the guns made them do it, are you?

Harte

[zep73]

10 minutes ago, Harte said:

Are you aware of the vast number of gun regulations already in place in the USA?

The cause of this problem is that it is a liberty written into the US Constitution.

There are limits to the amount of regulation that would be constitutionally sound enough to withstand the scrutiny of a legal challenge.

A lot has happened since 1787. Time to update, don't you think?

[Harte]

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There is no fixed definition of a mass shooting,^[2] but a common definition is an act of violence—excluding gang killings, domestic violence, or terrorist acts sponsored by an organization—in which a gunman kills at least four victims. Using this definition, one study found that nearly one-third of the world's public mass shootings between 1966 and 2012 (90 of 292 incidents) occurred in the United States.^[3][4] Using the same definition, Gun Violence Archive records 152 mass shootings in the United States between 1967 and May 2018, averaging eight fatalities per incident when the perpetrator's death is included.^[5]

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On average, according to FBI statistics, 450 children are murdered by their parents each year in the United States.

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Harte

[Myles]

4 minutes ago, sci-nerd said:

A lot has happened since 1787. Time to update, don't you think?

That's kind of the root of the problems.   Neither side is going to compromise if the other side won't.  

Guns......The right won't budge because it is the second amendment.

Illegal immigration...The left won't budge because this country was built on immigration.

 

[Likely Guy]

11 minutes ago, Harte said:

Yeah, forgot about the kid. Point is, family "mass murder" can be accomplished without guns, and you're not gonna argue the guns made them do it, are you?

Harte

No, but it does make it easier and usually more lethal.

ETA: oh, that and it's usually three victims, perpetrator excluded.

Edited November 19, 2018 by Likely Guy

[Harte]

47 minutes ago, sci-nerd said:

A lot has happened since 1787. Time to update, don't you think?

Doesn't matter what I think.

But no, I don't think that.

About 2/3 of gun deaths in the US are suicides. Once guns are gone, we'd have to ban tall buildings.

Harte

[Gromdor]

31 minutes ago, Harte said:

Doesn't matter what I think.

But no, I don't think that.

About 2/3 of gun deaths in the US are suicides. Once guns are gone, we'd have to ban tall buildings.

Harte

You know, we could always work on addressing the root of suicides here in the US as well.  You'd think the NRA would be onboard because it would make their numbers look better.