Is Trump really like a dictator?

[Farmer77]

17 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

1. Well if processing "on beliefs" is a bad thing, then stop Mueller from trying to prosecute Trump on his "Feellings". He's found nothing tangible.

This takes me back to our conversation yesterday and manufactured nonsense.

This statement is nonsense because there is no way to know if he has found anything tangible or not. Nor is there even a reasonable expectation that we would or should at this point.

18 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

2. The Intel had enough evidence to say that Hilary's server had been hacked by the Russians, Chinese, Saudi's, Israeli's, and possibly more. So YES. Trump's lawyers told him if he moves the AG to prosecute Hilary or Comey, congress will impeach him. And yes, my "feelings are that Mueller is a criminal.

Why on earth would he have to move Sessions to prosecute Hillary for email violations?

19 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

3. Long term damage, you say..? like the 18 Chinese spies that were executed because of hilary's OOPS? Uh huh. And Let's not confuse Trump's "damage" with people's hurt feelings as he goes right against the Dem's grain.

 

Man youre not gonna get me to defend Hillary , not my circus, not my monkey

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

@Farmer77   LOL Yea that is unfair of me to ask you to defend Hilary. All I want is "fairness". Prosecute all that are guilty of major crimes, for SURE.

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

Joe McCarthy defined a crime and looked for the people that were guilty. Special Council Robert Mueller defined the criminals and went looking for the crime.

WITCH HUNT.

[Farmer77]

On 11/29/2018 at 9:30 PM, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Joe McCarthy defined a crime and looked for the people that were guilty. Special Council Robert Mueller defined the criminals and went looking for the crime.

Um You do realize the investigation was under way long before there was a Special Council Robert Mueller right? That Mueller is only there because of the shady way that Trump fired Comey?

I mean thats a great line you spewed there, im just curious if you are aware of how fact free it actually was.

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

7 hours ago, Farmer77 said:

Um You do realize the investigation was under way long before there was a Special Council Robert Mueller right? That Mueller is only there because of the shady way that Trump fired Comey?

I mean thats a great line you spewed there, im just curious if you are aware of how fact free it actually was.

I am totally aware, Farmer me boy. Mueller being on the job before Comey's firing and of Comey's being involved before Mueller. But, maybe I Miss something. All I was trying to  point out is Mueller operates. I'll give you a hint... Mueller goes after anyone that ever said "hi" to Trump and he turns their life into a whore of misery.

Right now, there are people who will not join the trump white house just because of Mueller. He sucks. He's a nazi

[Agent0range]

3 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

I am totally aware, Farmer me boy. Mueller being on the job before Comey's firing and of Comey's being involved before Mueller. But, maybe I Miss something. All I was trying to  point out is Mueller operates. I'll give you a hint... Mueller goes after anyone that ever said "hi" to Trump and he turns their life into a whore of misery.

Right now, there are people who will not join the trump white house just because of Mueller. He sucks. He's a nazi

Can you point out where the Trump Administration appointed Special Counsel has deviated from his Trump Administration defined mission to investigate the crime of collusion, and all other crimes that turn up during that investigation?  

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

25 minutes ago, Agent0range said:

Can you point out where the Trump Administration appointed Special Counsel has deviated from his Trump Administration defined mission to investigate the crime of collusion, and all other crimes that turn up during that investigation?  

Excuse me...? "Trump administration appointed"?? When AG sleepy Sessions recused himself without even telling Trump he as going to, it set up a dem committee to appoint a special council. Your use of "Trump administration" is pretty misleading.

and "defined mission"?? It iS?? please tell what me what that mission is. I know a Judge ordered Mueller to show him the jurisdictions he had but Mueller refused. The judge told Mueller he thought that Mueller was just going after a said defendant because he was an associate of Trump, not that he did anything wrong.  What's that tell you? Ya, only the dems know what the defined mission is. the rest of us guess based on what Mueller does.

PS: We do know that Mueller switched from investigating "russian collusion" to "whatever" a long time ago.

 

 

Edited December 2, 2018 by Earl.Of.Trumps

[Agent0range]

On 11/29/2018 at 8:20 PM, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

@Farmer77   LOL Yea that is unfair of me to ask you to defend Hilary. All I want is "fairness". Prosecute all that are guilty of major crimes, for SURE.

So I'm guessing you really didn't mean what you said here.  Mueller has exposed MAJOR crimes, but that upsets you.  Also, Mueller was appointed by Rosenstein, not a "dem committee" as you say.

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

5 minutes ago, Agent0range said:

So I'm guessing you really didn't mean what you said here.  Mueller has exposed MAJOR crimes, but that upsets you.  Also, Mueller was appointed by Rosenstein, not a "dem committee" as you say.

Let me say it again - " Prosecute all that are guilty of major crimes, for SURE "  See the key word there, AO? ALL, not just associates of Trump. Mueller's targets are taken from the Democrat party "political hit list". Oh, and Rosenstein isn't on the Dem's side?

 

[Agent0range]

4 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Let me say it again - " Prosecute all that are guilty of major crimes, for SURE "  See the key word there, AO? ALL, not just associates of Trump. Mueller's targets are taken from the Democrat party "political hit list". Oh, and Rosenstein isn't on the Dem's side?

 

Rosenstein is a Republican, Mueller is a Republican.  What targets?  You think Democrats cared anything about Michael Cohen, General Flynn, or Paul Manafort?  They aren't political targets at all.  What are you even talking about?  I mean, really, you didn't know who appointed Mueller.  That's basic knowledge.  You have shown that you don't have enough knowledge of the subject at all to be taken seriously.  I mean, a "dem committee"???  LOL.  You're a joke.  Goodbye.

[Farmer77]

9 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

xcuse me...? "Trump administration appointed"?? When AG sleepy Sessions recused himself without even telling Trump he as going to, it set up a dem committee to appoint a special council. Your use of "Trump administration" is pretty misleading.

Bro.....do you really believe that? No wonder you're screaming witch hunt. Simply put its not true. 

Here is the letter from Rosenstein appointing Mueller. Thats the same republican Rosenstein that Trump himself appointed https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3726408-Rosenstein-letter-appointing-Mueller-special.html

9 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

and "defined mission"?? It iS?? please tell what me what that mission is. I

You can find that in the link provided above.

9 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

PS: We do know that Mueller switched from investigating "russian collusion" to "whatever" a long time ago.

How can you make that claim when Cohen just pleaded guilty to lying to congress about Trump organization business in Russia? Clearly the Russian conspiracy part of the investigation is still ongoing.

You seem like an intelligent guy, you really should cut out the middle man and start reading the source material on some of this stuff.

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

19 hours ago, Agent0range said:

Rosenstein is a Republican, Mueller is a Republican.  What targets?  You think Democrats cared anything about Michael Cohen, General Flynn, or Paul Manafort?  They aren't political targets at all.  What are you even talking about?  I mean, really, you didn't know who appointed Mueller.  That's basic knowledge.  You have shown that you don't have enough knowledge of the subject at all to be taken seriously.  I mean, a "dem committee"???  LOL.  You're a joke.  Goodbye.

 

 

And FBI director Wray is repub, too. He's corrupt. The three of them are DEEP STATE, currently working for the dem side.

Edited December 2, 2018 by Earl.Of.Trumps

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

10 hours ago, Farmer77 said:

Bro.....do you really believe that? No wonder you're screaming witch hunt. Simply put its not true. 

Here is the letter from Rosenstein appointing Mueller. Thats the same republican Rosenstein that Trump himself appointed https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3726408-Rosenstein-letter-appointing-Mueller-special.html

You can find that in the link provided above.

How can you make that claim when Cohen just pleaded guilty to lying to congress about Trump organization business in Russia? Clearly the Russian conspiracy part of the investigation is still ongoing.

You seem like an intelligent guy, you really should cut out the middle man and start reading the source material on some of this stuff.

Farmer, if I say there is no known defined mission for the special council, and yous say there IS, isn't it on YOU to find the link?, And of course it was not a dem committee.

When Guiliani came on board as Trump's lawyer, Mueller wanted Trump to testify. He assured Trump that there would be no questions on Russian Collusion.

Mueller is a man LOOKING for some crime. ANYTHING.

And how long ago did the Cohen probe start? Long ago. Cohen knows Trump talked to Russians? Well Geeezus, Trump also talked to British pols, and others from China, Lithuania, Brazil, and on and on. What the hell does that prove? He "colluded", and about WHAT?

[RAyMO]

10 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Trump talked to Russians? Well Geeezus, Trump also talked to British pols, and others from China, Lithuania, Brazil, and on and on. What the hell does that prove? He "colluded", and about WHAT?

for a man with nothing to worry about, he sure looks worried.

[Farmer77]

41 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Farmer, if I say there is no known defined mission for the special council, and yous say there IS, isn't it on YOU to find the link?,

I gave you the link.

 

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

@Farmer77     Sorry, Farmer I missed it and misunderstood what you meant

[Farmer77]

Donald Trump Whines Over ‘Unfair’ Coverage On NBC, ‘Saturday Night Live’

 

I am finding myself really concerned and saddened at how dictatorial rhetoric from the most powerful man in the world has become so commonplace that we all just shrug and go "meh whatever"

This is right out of V for Vendetta 

 

 

[RoofGardener]

1 hour ago, Farmer77 said:

Donald Trump Whines Over ‘Unfair’ Coverage On NBC, ‘Saturday Night Live’

 

I am finding myself really concerned and saddened at how dictatorial rhetoric from the most powerful man in the world has become so commonplace that we all just shrug and go "meh whatever"

This is right out of V for Vendetta 

Asking whether something should be referred to the courts is "dictatorial behaviour" ?

Blimey Farmer77... you must have known some REALLY wishy-washy liberal dictators  

But seeing as you posted a clip from V for Vendetta... one of my favourite movies of all time... I shall forgive you.  

Edited December 17, 2018 by RoofGardener

[Farmer77]

5 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

Asking whether something should be referred to the courts is "dictatorial behaviour" ?

Blimey Farmer77... you must have known some REALLY wishy-washy liberal dictators  

But seeing as you posted a clip from V for Vendetta... one of my favourite movies of all time... I shall forgive you.  

Just facepalm ..........I want to hate you for the way you are cheering on the death of our republic but you do it in such a friendly manner its just impossible.

 

Edited December 17, 2018 by Farmer77

[RoofGardener]

1 minute ago, Farmer77 said:

Just facepalm ..........I want to hate you for the way you are cheering on the death of our republic but you do it in such a friendly manner its just impossible.

 

LOL... your republic is WAY too robust to be destroyed by Donald Trump. Or even mildly inconvenienced. 

Just don't ask me about the likes of Keith Ellison or Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez ! 

[preacherman76]

On 12/2/2018 at 4:44 PM, RAyMO said:

for a man with nothing to worry about, he sure looks worried.

I’m sure the “witches” in Salem did too. 

[+Pettytalk]

This may be petty talk on my part, but I say that to seem is not the same as being. I see a divided pool here, a shallow and a deep side. Deep thoughts and shallow ones, and nearly all concerned with being rather than appearances. The topic's title was almost clear, as it was asking if Trump seems to be a dictator, and not if he really is one. Perhaps the topic's intent for discussion could have been clearer, by having provided an example of an established and real dictator which the community here would agree to be a real dictator; in other words a standard, as seen by the OP, since there are many levels and types of dictatorship. Not to mention that there were and perhaps still are dictatorships that are considered benevolent, rather than strictly evil. With a standard and a better introduction by the OP on the scope of the topic (to seem and not to be), then perhaps the posts would be more on topic. Especially if they stayed in the realm of comparison to an accepted standard. Where Trump is the subject of inspection and the sample-dictator as the standard for comparison.  

My meager contribution to the topic as it stands now is, in nutshell, using the old duck tale, if it talks like a duck, looks like a duck, and walks like a duck, then perhaps it is a duck. Where Duck = Dictator. And so far I believe that many of the posters fully agree that Trump talks like a duck. Apart from appearing to wiggle his behind, Trump is not walking like a duck. Apart from looking like a lame duck beginning in Jan 2019, is still not a full looking duck. And, seeing all the on-going investigations into his suspected duck work, to indict or impeach, Trump just seems to be more like a sitting duck, and not a reigning duck. 

Conclusion? Partial looks do not make for a full duck, or a fully developed dictator. But that does not mean that one should wait till duck-season officially opens before shooting off praises and complaints. Caution should be on the forefront whenever we start to hear quacking, as a duck may be lurking within the high reeds of a pond being drained. And any good man or woman will tell you, historically speaking, that most dictators spring from the fertile ground of democracy.

There is nothing more divisive than religion and politics, and are the best ground for having debates and discussions, as it takes at least two separate sides to tango. Or tangle, for some. Walls to some, I suppose, that cannot be scaled. Unity depends on bridges more than it does on containing walls.

[Farmer77]

1 hour ago, RoofGardener said:

LOL... your republic is WAY too robust to be destroyed by Donald Trump. Or even mildly inconvenienced. 

Oh youre absolutely correct about this.Its not Trump himself im really worried about.   Its the millions of mouth breathers who dont realize exactly how wrong and damaging his behavior is that I am worried about destroying our nation down the road.

In this case he is normalizing the concept that POTUS should be able to use law enforcement to quell language he doesnt like. Thats scary ass **** amigo.

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

@Pettytalk   and others too. Let's look at real dictators.

Joseph Stalin of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

Adolph Hiltler of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

 

It seems that "socialist" and "dictator" go together like ham and cheese.

[RoofGardener]

22 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Oh youre absolutely correct about this.Its not Trump himself im really worried about.   Its the millions of mouth breathers who dont realize exactly how wrong and damaging his behavior is that I am worried about destroying our nation down the road.

In this case he is normalizing the concept that POTUS should be able to use law enforcement to quell language he doesnt like. Thats scary ass **** amigo.

ROFL... isn't that what the left wing are trying to do with "hate speech" laws ? 

Anyway, he wasn't trying to use law enforcement. He was trying to use the judiciary. There is a BIG difference