docyabut2 Posted September 7, 2019 #2151 Share Posted September 7, 2019 trying to explained that the country gades was not connected to the other islands in Plato`s time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylemurph Posted September 7, 2019 #2152 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) Seriously, what do you think we’re going to get the 6,419th time we didn’t get the first 6,418 times? —Jaylemurph Edited September 7, 2019 by jaylemurph 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted September 7, 2019 #2153 Share Posted September 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: To his twin brother, who was born after him, and obtained as his lot the extremity of the island towards the Pillars of Heracles, facing the country which is now called the region of Gades in that part of the world, http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/critias.html Again 'facing' Gades doesn't make it Gades. cormac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted September 7, 2019 #2154 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: trying to explained that the country gades was not connected to the other islands in Plato`s time Gades was NEVER a country. Since the start of the Holocene it's barely an island and before that was part of the mainland. cormac 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted September 7, 2019 #2155 Share Posted September 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, jaylemurph said: Seriously, what do you think we’re going to get the 6,419th time we didn’t get the first 6,418 times? —Jaylemurph If I see a picture of the Ham's Heracles one more friggin time......... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted September 7, 2019 #2156 Share Posted September 7, 2019 I remember reading, ancient Gades was a small island, thats where a shoal filled it in and connected it to the lower island . as it all fill in making it all a peninsula I wish I could find that article again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted September 7, 2019 #2157 Share Posted September 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: *BOOM* 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted September 7, 2019 #2158 Share Posted September 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: I remember reading, ancient Gades was a small island, thats where a shoal filled it in and connected it to the lower island . as it all fill in making it all a peninsula I wish I could find that article again Emphasis on the word SMALL. cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted September 7, 2019 #2159 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, cormac mac airt said: Gades was NEVER a country. Since the start of the Holocene it's barely an island and before that was part of the mainland. cormac Gades was a small island facing Atlantis ! at the time of Solon and Plato.! at the time it was all filled in. Edited September 7, 2019 by docyabut2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted September 7, 2019 #2160 Share Posted September 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: Gades was a small island facing Atlantis ! at the time of Solon and Plato.! No, it wasn't at the time of Solon and Plato. Plato specifically placed it some 9000 years before Solon. Add to that the fact that Cadiz isn't even the size Plato gives the Atlantean capital either. You pretty much have to mangle Plato to get the Atlantis that you want. cormac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted September 7, 2019 #2161 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: No, it wasn't at the time of Solon and Plato. Plato specifically placed it some 9000 years before Solon. Add to that the fact that Cadiz isn't even the size Plato gives the Atlantean capital either. You pretty much have to mangle Plato to get the Atlantis that you want. cormac gee cormac Atlantis was not 9000 years before Solon") Edited September 7, 2019 by docyabut2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted September 7, 2019 #2162 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: gee cormac Atlantis was not 9000 years before Solon") Tell that to Plato, he wrote it. cormac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted September 7, 2019 #2163 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, docyabut2 said: To his twin brother, who was born after him, and obtained as his lot the extremity of the island towards the Pillars of Heracles, facing the country which is now called the region of Gades in that part of the world, http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/critias.html So, Atlantis faced itself. That shows good character. Harte 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted September 7, 2019 #2164 Share Posted September 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: Tell that to Plato, he wrote it. cormac it was at the time of King Cecrops 1 of Athens1574 bc http://www.forumancientcoins.com/cparada/GML/MythicalChronology.html This I infer because Solon said that the priests in their narrative of that war mentioned most of the names which are recorded prior to the time of Theseus, such as Cecrops, and Erechtheus, and Erichthonius, and Erysichthon, http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/critias.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted September 7, 2019 #2165 Share Posted September 7, 2019 Dear god make it stop.... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted September 7, 2019 #2166 Share Posted September 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Trelane said: Dear god make it stop.... its all in making out the tale of Plato `s Atlantis is true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted September 7, 2019 #2167 Share Posted September 7, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: it was at the time of King Cecrops 1 of Athens1574 bc http://www.forumancientcoins.com/cparada/GML/MythicalChronology.html This I infer because Solon said that the priests in their narrative of that war mentioned most of the names which are recorded prior to the time of Theseus, such as Cecrops, and Erechtheus, and Erichthonius, and Erysichthon, http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/critias.html Would you care to make up another timeline? Quote Let me begin by observing first of all, that nine thousand was the sum of years which had elapsed since the war which was said to have taken place between those who dwelt outside the Pillars of Heracles and all who dwelt within them; this war I am going to describe. (Critias) and Quote Many great deluges have taken place during the nine thousand years, for that is the number of years which have elapsed since the time of which I am speaking; (Critias) cormac Edited September 7, 2019 by cormac mac airt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted September 7, 2019 #2168 Share Posted September 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: Would you care to make up another timeline? and cormac Now the city in those days was arranged on this wise. In the first place the Acropolis was not as now. For the fact is that a single night of excessive rain washed away the earth and laid bare the rock; at the same time there were earthquakes, and then occurred the extraordinary inundation, which was the third before the great destruction of Deucalion it was a flood that also hit Athens at the same time of Atlantis. I tnink it was a tusmimi that hit Atlantis and a cyclone that hit Athens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted September 7, 2019 #2169 Share Posted September 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: Now the city in those days was arranged on this wise. In the first place the Acropolis was not as now. For the fact is that a single night of excessive rain washed away the earth and laid bare the rock; at the same time there were earthquakes, and then occurred the extraordinary inundation, which was the third before the great destruction of Deucalion it was a flood that also hit Athens at the same time of Atlantis. I tnink it was a tusmimi that hit Atlantis and a cyclone that hit Athens. And yet you're ignoring "WHEN" Plato said it occurred. So you're still making it up as you go along. cormac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted September 7, 2019 #2170 Share Posted September 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: And yet you're ignoring "WHEN" Plato said it occurred. So you're still making it up as you go along. cormac gee Plato in the story said at the time of Atlantis was at the time in Athens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Noteverythingisaconspiracy Posted September 8, 2019 #2171 Share Posted September 8, 2019 21 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: it was a flood that also hit Athens at the same time of Atlantis. I tnink it was a tusmimi that hit Atlantis Tusmimi's (also known as tsunami's ) doesn't sink land. They affect coastal areas and the water recedes fairly quickly. They can be devastating, but they can't sink a major landmass. 21 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: and a cyclone that hit Athens. Greece doesn't get cyclones. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted September 8, 2019 #2172 Share Posted September 8, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: gee Plato in the story said at the time of Atlantis was at the time in Athens That ought to be your first clue that he never intended for the story to be taken as real. Apparently you don’t care what Plato said as long as it doesn’t interfere with what YOU want to be real. cormac Edited September 8, 2019 by cormac mac airt 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Noteverythingisaconspiracy Posted September 8, 2019 #2173 Share Posted September 8, 2019 18 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: That ought to be your first clue that he never intended for the story to be taken as real. Apparently you don’t care what Plato said as long as it doesn’t interfere with what YOU want to be real. cormac That pretty much sums up all Atlantis believers. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThereWeAreThen Posted September 8, 2019 #2174 Share Posted September 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said: That pretty much sums up all Atlantis believers. The vast majority of conspiracy theorists, paranormal believers, religious people..I could go on. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted September 8, 2019 #2175 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, docyabut2 said: its all in making out the tale of Plato `s Atlantis is true Look, you've been peddling the same garbage over and over again for almost a year. Keep the receipt, I'm not buying any of it. ANY....OF....IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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