cormac mac airt Posted March 12, 2019 #301 Share Posted March 12, 2019 24 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: ok all, its why its was explained that all Atlantians weren't destroyed Zeus, the god of gods, who rules according to law, and is able to see into such things, perceiving that an honourable race was in a woeful plight, and wanting to inflict punishment on them, that they might be chastened and improve, http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/critias.html Atlantis was said to be an island, on which the ten kings each had a city, when the island subsided the cities would have disappeared as well. cormac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted March 12, 2019 #302 Share Posted March 12, 2019 3 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: yes and why also ancient people considered it a island Never happened, even using the fabricated maps you’ve bought into. cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted March 12, 2019 #303 Share Posted March 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: Atlantis was said to be an island, on which the ten kings each had a city, when the island subsided the cities would have disappeared as well. cormac nope Cormac they all survived") Zeus, the god of gods, who rules according to law, and is able to see into such things, perceiving that an honourable race was in a woeful plight, and wanting to inflict punishment on them, that they might be chastened and improve, http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/critias.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodie.Lynne Posted March 12, 2019 #304 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 hours ago, jaylemurph said: or maybe we all need to take a break from responding to her, Orrrrr, Just put her on ignore, since she is hopelessly devoted to this idea and will not be swayed by mere facts, or logic..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted March 12, 2019 #305 Share Posted March 12, 2019 and the maps explained http://atlantisng.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/tartessos-mapa.pdf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted March 12, 2019 #306 Share Posted March 12, 2019 19 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: nope Cormac they all survived") Zeus, the god of gods, who rules according to law, and is able to see into such things, perceiving that an honourable race was in a woeful plight, and wanting to inflict punishment on them, that they might be chastened and improve, http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/critias.html Try again: Quote But afterwards there occurred violent earthquakes and floods; and in a single day and night of misfortune all your warlike men in a body sank into the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared in the depths of the sea. (Source: Timaeus) Which means EVERYONE still on Atlantis at that point perished. But then, you do like making things up, don't you? cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted March 12, 2019 #307 Share Posted March 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: and the maps explained http://atlantisng.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/tartessos-mapa.pdf And ignored by you as you've STILL not explained WHY the Island of Gades/Cadiz is shown on a distinctly separate and large landmass that IS NEITHER Spain nor Africa. cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted March 12, 2019 #308 Share Posted March 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: Try again: Which means EVERYONE still on Atlantis at that point perished. But then, you do like making things up, don't you? cormac After viewing both films, Plato's writings, and Georgeos Díaz-Montexano `s findings. I`m so more convinced that Atlantis is in the Tartesso area. Beyond the pillars of Hercules Facing a country called Gades The mountains surrounding the country call Atlantis, that had the ten kings cities A Poseidon temple. Maybe there was a Poseidon temple on the little island in the Donana park I kind of believe the Athens warriors attacked the country Atlantis in their ships, when a violent earthquake and a tusumi hit them, destroyed the temple. Like the story said Zeus only punished them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted March 12, 2019 #309 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, docyabut2 said: After viewing both films, Plato's writings, and Georgeos Díaz-Montexano `s findings. I`m so more convinced that Atlantis is in the Tartesso area. Beyond the pillars of Hercules Facing a country called Gades The mountains surrounding the country call Atlantis, that had the ten kings cities A Poseidon temple. Maybe there was a Poseidon temple on the little island in the Donana park I kind of believe the Athens warriors attacked the country Atlantis in their ships, when a violent earthquake and a tusumi hit them, destroyed the temple. Like the story said Zeus only punished them. You pretty much disregard Plato in favor of what you want to be true. Yes, we know. cormac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted March 12, 2019 #310 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: And ignored by you as you've STILL not explained WHY the Island of Gades/Cadiz is shown on a distinctly separate and large landmass that IS NEITHER Spain nor Africa. cormac so explained why was Gades/Cadiz is anywhere else in the story ? Edited March 12, 2019 by docyabut2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted March 12, 2019 #311 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: so explained why was Gades/Cadiz is anywhere else in the story ? The map you fawn over is BS and Plato discusses the portion of the island of Atlantis “facing” Gades/Cadiz though not “on” the same continent, which means he knew Gades/Cadiz was part of the Iberian peninsula. cormac Edited March 12, 2019 by cormac mac airt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted March 12, 2019 #312 Share Posted March 12, 2019 (edited) 29 minutes ago, cormac mac airt said: The map you fawn over is BS and Plato discusses the portion of the island of Atlantis “facing” Gades/Cadiz though not “on” the same continent, which means he knew Gades/Cadiz was part of the Iberian peninsula. cormac no comac that any island of Atlantis was off Spain, it only describes diver islands off Spain And of the fifth pair he gave to the elder the name of Azaes, and to the younger that of Diaprepes. All these and their descendants for many generations were the inhabitants and rulers of divers islands in the open sea http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/critias.html those are the Azores islands off Spain only the rulers Edited March 13, 2019 by docyabut2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cormac mac airt Posted March 13, 2019 #313 Share Posted March 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, docyabut2 said: no comac that any island of Atlantis was off Spain, it only describes diver islands off Spain And of the fifth pair he gave to the elder the name of Azaes, and to the younger that of Diaprepes. All these and their descendants for many generations were the inhabitants and rulers of divers islands in the open sea http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/critias.html those are the Azores islands off Spain You’ve lost any smidgeon of credibility you might have had. Congratulations. cormac 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted March 13, 2019 #314 Share Posted March 13, 2019 As to the population, each of the lots in the plain had to find a leader for the men who were fit for military service, and the size of a lot was a square of ten stadia each way, and the total number of all the lots was sixty thousand. And of the inhabitants of the mountains and of the rest of the country there was also a vast multitude, which was distributed among the lots and had leaders assigned to them according to their districts and villages. The leader was required to furnish for the war the sixth portion of a war-chariot, so as to make up a total of ten thousand chariots; also two horses and riders for them, and a pair of chariot-horses without a seat, accompanied by a horseman who could fight on foot carrying a small shield, and having a charioteer who stood behind the man-at-arms to guide the two horses; also, he was bound to furnish two heavy armed soldiers, two slingers, three stone-shooters and three javelin-men, who were light-armed, and four sailors to make up the complement of twelve hundred ships. Such was the military order of the royal city-the order of the other nine governments varied, and it would be wearisome to recount their several differences. http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/critias.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted March 13, 2019 #315 Share Posted March 13, 2019 13 hours ago, Pettytalk said: Who made you judge of reality? Hey Pettytalk So your back posting, well I would tend to support the idea that we are all responsible for how reality is interpreted and the more individuals that see aspects/circumstances/etc express the greatest potential for what reality is at that specific time and those specific circumstances. How they came to agree is the basis from which we proceed. 13 hours ago, Pettytalk said: Anyway, reality can only be grasped with the mind's eye, as it is not visible to the material eye. Does the mind's eye exist or experience existing in the physical world and yet it is from the physical world that one looks in from, the mind's eye does not experience pain as it is a construct so if the building is on fire why not just jump out that 17th-floor window everything is just a construct even ourselves so it's just a reboot right. jmccr8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted March 13, 2019 #316 Share Posted March 13, 2019 5 hours ago, docyabut2 said: Beyond the pillars of Hercules Hi Docyabut2 Love you but I think we are well past the pillars of sanity here. 5 hours ago, docyabut2 said: Facing a country called Gades Okay, everybody look at Gades we are all facing Gades from different directions as I am south of some latitudes or north and then there is the east/west of to consider, maybe a fixed point of reference would help and we can all stand there and look at Gades together and see, maybe. and then again would holding crystals and chanting help? 5 hours ago, docyabut2 said: I kind of believe the Athens warriors attacked the country Atlantis in their ships, when a violent earthquake and a tusumi hit them, destroyed the temple. Wonderful problem solved they had a time travelling navy so that they could go back before they existed to combat people they didn't know existed. Well, that certainly sounds rational to me. jmccr8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Cox Posted March 13, 2019 #317 Share Posted March 13, 2019 11 hours ago, docyabut2 said: After viewing both films, Plato's writings, and Georgeos Díaz-Montexano `s findings. I`m so more convinced that Atlantis is in the Tartesso area. Beyond the pillars of Hercules Facing a country called Gades The mountains surrounding the country call Atlantis, that had the ten kings cities A Poseidon temple. Maybe there was a Poseidon temple on the little island in the Donana park I kind of believe the Athens warriors attacked the country Atlantis in their ships, when a violent earthquake and a tusumi hit them, destroyed the temple. Like the story said Zeus only punished them. Fa Quote Fantastic, now go believe all this else where as you do not listen to reason and keep posting nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Cox Posted March 13, 2019 #318 Share Posted March 13, 2019 7 hours ago, docyabut2 said: nope Cormac they all survived") Zeus, the god of gods, who rules according to law, and is able to see into such things, perceiving that an honourable race was in a woeful plight, and wanting to inflict punishment on them, that they might be chastened and improve, http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/critias.html insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Spain is NOT Atlantis, Southern Spain is not Atlantis. No where is Atlantis, if it did exists it was destroyed so it cannot be Spain. This is if it existed and we know it did not, based on the location and size Plato gives it. So NO NO NO, you cannot post the same rubbish time and time again and hope eventually we will agree with you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atalante Posted March 13, 2019 #319 Share Posted March 13, 2019 On 3/10/2019 at 1:46 PM, docyabut2 said: ...and the island of Atlantis in like manner disappeared in the depths of the sea.... Plato used figurative language here in Tim 25d. Plato's Greek verb for "disappearing into the sea" was often used to describe the sun, moon and planets "setting" into the horizon, which here is being portrayed as a sea-horizon. The point of this statement was that Atlantis (after being "chastised" by Zeus's punishment) could rise again, similar (in a figurative way) to the way the sun moon and planets rise again in the east (after plunging into the horizon in the west). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted March 13, 2019 #320 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 hours ago, atalante said: Plato used figurative language here in Tim 25d. Plato's Greek verb for "disappearing into the sea" was often used to describe the sun, moon and planets "setting" into the horizon, which here is being portrayed as a sea-horizon. The point of this statement was that Atlantis (after being "chastised" by Zeus's punishment) could rise again, similar (in a figurative way) to the way the sun moon and planets rise again in the east (after plunging into the horizon in the west). Pardon me for trusting Jowett for translations of ancient Greek, rather than yourself. Harte 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaylemurph Posted March 13, 2019 #321 Share Posted March 13, 2019 21 hours ago, Swede said: Clarification please. Are you actually suggesting that during the "Viking Age" (~ AD 800 - 1066), the Iberian peninsula was considered an "island"? And that the Vikings carried their ships across the Pyrenees in order to reach the peninsula? . I can assure you no such clarification exists and that nobody in Roman times or afterward considered Iberia an island. I don't know if docy believes the dreck she invents/posts herself, but when she makes **** up out of thin air, as she is doing here, she deserves to be called out for it. This is bull****. This is a lie. This is untruth, and she is either too ignorant to know the difference, a liar who doesn't care, or too mentally impaired to be able to tell. I don't know which, but she needs to stop peddling this crap and we need to stop letting her do so. --Jaylemurph 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted March 13, 2019 #322 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, atalante said: Plato used figurative language here in Tim 25d. Plato's Greek verb for "disappearing into the sea" was often used to describe the sun, moon and planets "setting" into the horizon, which here is being portrayed as a sea-horizon. The point of this statement was that Atlantis (after being "chastised" by Zeus's punishment) could rise again, similar (in a figurative way) to the way the sun moon and planets rise again in the east (after plunging into the horizon in the west). atalante , I`m agreeing with the searchers in the Atlantis Rising Secrets Decoded documentary.:) Professor Freund points out a big hole in the Donana park , that might have been a small Poseidon temple buried there, and it looked like this one. https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g1064330-d7257976-Reviews-La_Motilla_Del_Azuer-Daimiel_Province_of_Ciudad_Real_Castile_La_Mancha.html#photos;aggregationId=101&albumid=101&filter=7&ff=307752710 Edited March 13, 2019 by docyabut2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harte Posted March 13, 2019 #323 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Even Atlantipedia, an often used source for fringers (and an often ridiculed website for skeptics) pans this crockumentary, and, incredibly, finds itself in agreement with Jason Colavito: Harte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swede Posted March 13, 2019 #324 Share Posted March 13, 2019 On 3/12/2019 at 5:38 PM, docyabut2 said: yes and why also ancient people considered it a island Your "understandings" are distinctly incorrect. Merely a brief overview: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vikings_in_Iberia Again, do pay attention to timelines and, in this case, the previously established presence of a Muslim culture. Island? . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docyabut2 Posted March 14, 2019 #325 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, Harte said: Even Atlantipedia, an often used source for fringers (and an often ridiculed website for skeptics) pans this crockumentary, and, incredibly, finds itself in agreement with Jason Colavito: Harte I don`nt think the Atlantians were Jewish or Muslim cultures , but a Tartessos culture. Plato said Atlantis was a empire and Tartessos was the only empire in that area near Gades Tartessos cultural area. Edited March 14, 2019 by docyabut2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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