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Russia mission will 'verify US Moon landings'

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RoofGardener

Hee hee hee. 

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Obviousman
18 hours ago, bee said:

does it matter.... do you only listen to people with ''''qualifications'''....
bit's of paper, letters after their name...

When it involves technical matters beyond my - and indeed a lot of peoples - expertise then yes, I pay attention to people who have actual qualifications in that field.

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Robotic Jew
18 minutes ago, Obviousman said:

When it involves technical matters beyond my - and indeed a lot of peoples - expertise then yes, I pay attention to people who have actual qualifications in that field.

I watch youtube. Lots of great videos there from basement experts.

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South Alabam

Well the moon doesn't spin, therefore it must be flat, like earth. Oh and I know the Russians will "verify" it with CGI, like NASA does the flat earth we live on. Who can you trust these days?

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NCC1701

Putin will remove every trace of the Apollo landings.

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bee
5 hours ago, NCC1701 said:

Putin will remove every trace of the Apollo landings.

 

Ahhhhh HA !!

NOW we see how it's going to play out :ph34r:

Probably best if Russia sends astronauts to the Far Side so they can't be accused of that -

But what if they find some Apollo stuff there - what a kerfuffle that will cause.... 
Not that anyone would believe it - so no one panic... :innocent:

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Nzo
On 11/26/2018 at 3:36 AM, toast said:

For what reasons exactly?

Well, for the advancement of human beings for one. We have a natural orbiting mini earth from which we can build on. Just send everything that would be needed to dig out a comfortable, reliable underground base. It can be used for scientific research. It can be used as a launch off base to the rest of the solar system. If we get advanced enough it can be used as a port where ships full of resources drop off their billions of tons of resources which are safely dropped back to earth. So many possibilities.

Just imagine the possibilities.

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toast
37 minutes ago, Nzo said:

.Just send everything that would be needed to dig out a comfortable, reliable underground base.

An underground base would be good idea for the reason of radiation protection but a very bad idea because of the expenditure required. Just calculate the weight of the equipment, excavator and related, that is of need to build a habitat that will fit for, lets say, 4 persons. Add to that value the weight of the habitat equipment, like shelter/energy plant/life support systems/research equipment, a kind of port, emergency escape infrastructure and a lot of other stuff as well. An approximate estimation would be something around 50tons=50.000kgs in total. I dont know the actual rate to lift one kg into LEO but it something like 40.000USD, so we have a "freight charge" of 2B but thats only to take it into LEO. From LEO, the stuff must be accelerated to the 2. cosmic speed and decelerated near to the Moon. We dont have the equiment ready yet to do that, means, some additional billions to spend. And not to forget, operational cost must be taken into the calculation as well.

In sum, the investment needed would not be in a good balance to the results of such station.

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If we get advanced enough it can be used as a port where ships full of resources drop off their billions of tons of resources which are safely dropped back to earth. So many possibilities.

Of course but the benefits of such station would not justify the needed amount of investment yet also under the consideration that other, and much more important projects like a NEO defense system, would be canceled and/or postponed.

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Just imagine the possibilities.

I always do but I always verify the cost-benefit factor and the priority factor as well.

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aztek

lamo, sure Russians will verify, that is hilarious.

 

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Robotic Jew
On 11/30/2018 at 4:07 AM, toast said:

An underground base would be good idea for the reason of radiation protection but a very bad idea because of the expenditure required. Just calculate the weight of the equipment, excavator and related, that is of need to build a habitat that will fit for, lets say, 4 persons. Add to that value the weight of the habitat equipment, like shelter/energy plant/life support systems/research equipment, a kind of port, emergency escape infrastructure and a lot of other stuff as well. An approximate estimation would be something around 50tons=50.000kgs in total. I dont know the actual rate to lift one kg into LEO but it something like 40.000USD, so we have a "freight charge" of 2B but thats only to take it into LEO. From LEO, the stuff must be accelerated to the 2. cosmic speed and decelerated near to the Moon. We dont have the equiment ready yet to do that, means, some additional billions to spend. And not to forget, operational cost must be taken into the calculation as well.

In sum, the investment needed would not be in a good balance to the results of such station.

Of course but the benefits of such station would not justify the needed amount of investment yet also under the consideration that other, and much more important projects like a NEO defense system, would be canceled and/or postponed.

I always do but I always verify the cost-benefit factor and the priority factor as well.

Eek...What if the moon isn't held together well enough for digging and it splits in half?? 

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Myles

Apparently there is another NBA star who isn't very smart.   Steph Curry said he doesn't believe NASA landed on the moon.  

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qxcontinuum

Too late; NASA has already destroyed the landing tapes and all of its unique historical achievment erased from memory... how convenient

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Obviousman
4 hours ago, qxcontinuum said:

Too late; NASA has already destroyed the landing tapes and all of its unique historical achievment erased from memory... how convenient

That's not true. You do know that, don't you?

Exactly what portion of the "landing tapes" do you claim has been "destroyed"? References, please, so everyone can check your accuracy of your statement and judge for themselves.

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qxcontinuum
20 hours ago, Obviousman said:

That's not true. You do know that, don't you?

Exactly what portion of the "landing tapes" do you claim has been "destroyed"? References, please, so everyone can check your accuracy of your statement and judge for themselves.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSTRE56F5MK20090716

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Obviousman
3 hours ago, qxcontinuum said:

OK, that shows your ignorance of what happened (no offence - being ignorant of something simply means you are not aware of things).

The original transmission was what was called Slow scan TV (SSTV). I'd recommend you reading how it was done here:

https://www.honeysucklecreek.net/Apollo_11/TV_from_Moon.html

The SSTV tapes were re-used because they were not necessary. The original footage - and all subsequent footage - has always been available.

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aztek

soviets were tracking every moon landing, there was no question about landing with soviet space centers. they knew we went there.  Russia however seems to be a backward country these days. where they often confuse cause and effect, no wonder their new agency dances to political agenda. and says idiotic things, our moon landing is just a tip of the iceberg

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