Habitat Posted January 25, 2019 #2376 Share Posted January 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: Most of what you say is in dispute of what others have to say about what little substance there is in your "reports", the gist of which is--"How dare you ignorant fools disbelieve what I can't prove." A walk in the waters of your posts, hardly gets my feet wet. You know nothing of the substance of my reports, hence, as an intelligent man, you would say, "who knows whether there is anything to it". You are not that man ! You and your ilk here , appear petrified that would make you a dupe, if I was somehow shown to be a liar. It wouldn't though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted January 25, 2019 #2377 Share Posted January 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, Habitat said: Sherapy seems to have an "intimate" knowledge of your psyche, I'm tipping you are in her dreams/nightmares ! I'm not his. I'm my own person thanks very much. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 25, 2019 #2378 Share Posted January 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, psyche101 said: But........ absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. What do reports matter? I already gave you a couple links to Unicorn sightings. You're just in denial. They every bit as real as ghosts are. Are you insinuating that morse code from the other side is a sane proposition??? There are no reports, of these fictitious inventions, you galah ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodie.Lynne Posted January 25, 2019 #2379 Share Posted January 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: No but the absence of evidence and absence of anything, too, pretty much puts a stake through it's heart. Don't you DARE try to stake my poor purple people eater! She only eats the persnickety posers prone to pish me off! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted January 25, 2019 #2380 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Habitat said: You know nothing of the substance of my reports, hence, as an intelligent man, you would say, "who knows whether there is anything to it". You are not that man ! You and your ilk here , appear petrified that would make you a dupe, if I was somehow shown to be a liar. It wouldn't though. Thanks for proving my point and as matter-of-fact unicorns do exist, they just don't look very much like their closest living relative, the horse. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodie.Lynne Posted January 25, 2019 #2381 Share Posted January 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Habitat said: You know nothing of the substance of my reports, Maybe not, but in giving a report, would it not be better to provide some evidence of the occurrence, rather than lashing out at those seeking verification? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted January 25, 2019 #2382 Share Posted January 25, 2019 24 minutes ago, Mr Walker said: lol i will see if she can tell what i was wearing last night while i slept. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted January 25, 2019 #2383 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Just now, psyche101 said: But........ absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. What do reports matter? I already gave you a couple links to Unicorn sightings. You're just in denial. They every bit as real as ghosts are. yep... like I've always said: how many years will take to change: <absence of evidence is not evidence of absence> TO <absence of evidence can only logically mean evidence of absence> 10/50/200 years? will some be so engulfed in fantasy that they'll STILL be wondering the meaning of crop circles in 200 years time!?!? oh joy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 25, 2019 #2384 Share Posted January 25, 2019 Just now, Jodie.Lynne said: Maybe not, but in giving a report, would it not be better to provide some evidence of the occurrence, rather than lashing out at those seeking verification? There is no evidence I can provide, that would be conclusive of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted January 25, 2019 #2385 Share Posted January 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jodie.Lynne said: Don't you DARE try to stake my poor purple people eater! She only eats the persnickety posers prone to pish me off! Bah, she doesn't hold a candle to my frumious Bandersnatch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 25, 2019 #2386 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Dejarma said: yep... like I've always said: how many years will take to change: <absence of evidence is not evidence of absence> TO <absence of evidence can only logically mean evidence of absence> 10/50/200 years? will some be so engulfed in fantasy that they'll STILL be wondering the meaning of crop circles in 200 years time!?!? oh joy And you'd still be wrong, jarmy, the "other" realm has us under the microscope, not the other way around, as much as that idea may rankle. What is clear, to me, is that the "beyond" is quite happy that witnesses report. But that those not meant to see, don't. Edited January 25, 2019 by Habitat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodie.Lynne Posted January 25, 2019 #2387 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Habitat said: There is no evidence I can provide, that would be conclusive of it. Then you only have conjecture, not facts, and the vitriol that you spew on others for disputing your conjecture does nothing to either enhance your reputation or to prove your point. To be honest, I see your posturing to be similar to a youngster stamping her foot and saying "But it's true" when she is caught telling a tall tale. I am not impugning your intelligence with that statement, but due to lack of evidence, you are falling back onto an emotional defense of your position. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodie.Lynne Posted January 25, 2019 #2388 Share Posted January 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: Bah, she doesn't hold a candle to my frumious Bandersnatch. Piffle! She has two of them for afternoon tea! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted January 25, 2019 #2389 Share Posted January 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, Dejarma said: yep... like I've always said: how many years will take to change: <absence of evidence is not evidence of absence> TO <absence of evidence can only logically mean evidence of absence> 10/50/200 years? will some be so engulfed in fantasy that they'll STILL be wondering the meaning of crop circles in 200 years time!?!? oh joy Because it doesn't strictly hold true. See the Collatz Conjecture and Extraterrestrial Life. To hold both of these examples as true mandates some arbitrary level of reasonable intuition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted January 25, 2019 #2390 Share Posted January 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Habitat said: There are no reports, of these fictitious inventions, you galah ! Indeed there are you poor uninformed ignoramus. Remember absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Reports have been tendered in antiquity right through to modern day sightings. A Greek doctor, Ctesias, way back in the 4th century BC, who wrote quite seriously of such creatures during his travels through Persia. In fact, famous historical figures who claimed to have encountered unicorns were Julius Caesar, Genghis Khan, and Confucius. Even in 1991, the renowned Austrian naturalist Antal Festetics allegedly saw a unicorn while filming a wildlife documentary in the Harz Mountains. A video of a supposed unicorn was taken in 2010 in the wetlands of the Don Valley, near Toronto, Ontario, Canada by a local birdwatcher named Peter Hickey-Jones. I've already linked you to the sighting made in the highlands of Wick in Caithness, Scotland, in 2014, and from North Korea we even have a photo. Kiringul That's a lot more evidence than you have for your claim isn't it? Maybe you should grab a pack of sunflower seeds to snack on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted January 25, 2019 #2391 Share Posted January 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, Habitat said: And you'd still be wrong, jarmy, the "other" realm has us under the microscope, not the other way around, as much as that idea may rankle. What is clear, to me, is that the "beyond" is quite happy that witnesses report. But that those not meant to see, don't. you still still still have not answered my question, mate!!! do i need to repeat it!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted January 25, 2019 #2392 Share Posted January 25, 2019 25 minutes ago, Habitat said: You know nothing of the substance of my reports So POST THE BEST EXAMPLE and stop playing these stupid games. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted January 25, 2019 #2393 Share Posted January 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: Because it doesn't strictly hold true. See the Collatz Conjecture and Extraterrestrial Life. To hold both of these examples as true mandates some arbitrary level of reasonable intuition. nope, you've lost me there= the existence of Extraterrestrial Life has nothing to do with what i'm saying................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted January 25, 2019 #2394 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Dejarma said: yep... like I've always said: how many years will take to change: <absence of evidence is not evidence of absence> TO <absence of evidence can only logically mean evidence of absence> 10/50/200 years? will some be so engulfed in fantasy that they'll STILL be wondering the meaning of crop circles in 200 years time!?!? oh joy Well, Darwin made sense of evolution over 100 years ago but look at the claimed statistics of people who still believe Adam and Eve is a factual account about the rise of man. If that's accurate, its disappointing that so many eschew knowledge for fantasy. Some just seem to need that superstitious security blanket to get through their day. If you disturb that blanket, they just pull it tighter about them. I honestly feel that is a sad situation. And it's why religion is not benign, even when personal. Edited January 25, 2019 by psyche101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 25, 2019 #2395 Share Posted January 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, Jodie.Lynne said: Then you only have conjecture, not facts, and the vitriol that you spew on others for disputing your conjecture does nothing to either enhance your reputation or to prove your point. To be honest, I see your posturing to be similar to a youngster stamping her foot and saying "But it's true" when she is caught telling a tall tale. I am not impugning your intelligence with that statement, but due to lack of evidence, you are falling back onto an emotional defense of your position. I have been very conservative about what I have said, does not matter to me that people don't accept anecdotes as fact, I have never asked or expected they would, but I have been called a liar by the Peanut-in-chief, among others here, and not a single one of the junior peanuts has protested ! I take that as an endorsement of the "liar" claim, and why wouldn't I ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted January 25, 2019 #2396 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Dejarma said: nope, you've lost me there= the existence of Extraterrestrial Life has nothing to do with what i'm saying................... What? How does it have nothing to do with what you're saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted January 25, 2019 #2397 Share Posted January 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, Jodie.Lynne said: Then you only have conjecture, not facts, and the vitriol that you spew on others for disputing your conjecture does nothing to either enhance your reputation or to prove your point. To be honest, I see your posturing to be similar to a youngster stamping her foot and saying "But it's true" when she is caught telling a tall tale. I am not impugning your intelligence with that statement, but due to lack of evidence, you are falling back onto an emotional defense of your position. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted January 25, 2019 #2398 Share Posted January 25, 2019 1 minute ago, psyche101 said: Well, Darwin made sense of evolution over 100 years ago but look at the claimed statistics of people who still believe Adam and Eve is a factual account about the rise of man. If that's accurate, its disappointing that so many eschew knowledge for fantasy. Some just seem to need that superstitious security blanket to get through their day. If you disturb that blanket, they just pull it tighter about them. I honestly feel that is a sad situation. i don't even have reply saying i agree 100%- but i have logic & basic common sense WILL always rule oh what fun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted January 25, 2019 #2399 Share Posted January 25, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Golden Duck said: What? How does it have nothing to do with what you're saying? well that's what i'm asking you to explain== class me as stupid & go from there if ya like Edited January 25, 2019 by Dejarma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jodie.Lynne Posted January 25, 2019 #2400 Share Posted January 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Habitat said: people don't accept anecdotes as fact, The plural of anecdote is NOT data. Take "slenderman" for example. How many anecdotal tales of that spectre are there? Do you take it as a given that 'slenderman' exists, because of those stories? 5 minutes ago, Habitat said: I take that as an endorsement of the "liar" claim, and why wouldn't I ! I have never called you a liar, however, anecdotes without data or evidence do not make you a 'truther' either. You choose to believe in the existence of the unprovable because it in some way brings you comfort, and have eschewed reason or skepticism in favor of what you want to believe is true. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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