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How far are we from china style social score?

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Today, the Internet has become the centerpiece of their “Big Brother surveillance grid”, and they are gathering information on all of us on a scale that has never been seen before in all of human history.  But of course it was never going to stop there.  Over the past couple of years we have started to watch the elite use all of this information to punish those that are doing or saying things that they do not like.

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Dark_Grey
8 minutes ago, OverSword said:

Unless there is a major public backlash, which there likely won't be, I would say 10 years. In 10 years, the young people growing up in the digital surveillance state today won't have much to protest because they won't know any better. Of course "social credit" will be the answer to racism and transphobia and all kinds of discrimination. It will be applauded, as are all new devices that remove individual freedoms. The voices of dissent will be loud at first but they will quickly be demonized or shouted over. 

If you look at all the pieces on the chess board right now, (data harvesting, media manipulation, crypto currency, false flags, mass immigration policies,) there aren't many ways it will end in sunshine and rainbows. The most likely conclusion is a planet of mulatto, mental slaves kept in line by algorithms and the threat of losing their digital currency. The goal of globalism, as far as the faceless elite is concerned, is to consolidate everything and everyone under one banner to be ruled by an elite class. They want to return to feudalism but on a global scale. The next economic collapse will rob the last of the riches from the working class and solidify the divide between the rich and the poor. Digital currency will be key to the plan of "social credit" as it's trackable and controllable from anywhere. Before crypto currency can be adopted en mass, the US Dollar has to be devalued and removed as the world's reserve currency. The next market crash will be an important one. The writing's on the wall, man.

*Scratches long depression beard and runs back in to the woods*

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OverSword
3 minutes ago, Dark_Grey said:

*Scratches long depression beard and runs back in to the woods*

:lol:

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aztek

we already have it, credit score, driving record, criminal record,  they just combined all in one.  whenever your BC is ran, or you are investigated for a job, all are looked at.   thou china may use medical records too, here we have confidentiality laws, for now

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Tatetopa
1 minute ago, aztek said:

thou china may use medical records too, here we have confidentiality laws, for now

Think about insurance companies buying information from 23and me or Ancestry,com for a peek at your genetic liabilities,  You could be born with a pre-existing condition. I don't think privacy laws are going to stop medical record collection.  I understand your concern about the state, but Google Amazon, Apple, Facebook ,and others were first in this game and are way ahead.  Those enterprises  do not stop at borders.  They have data on a sizable portion of humanity.  Amazon knows what you buy and Google and Apple are friends with every Bluetooth appliance in your house.  They know your bank accounts credit card numbers and security codes.  They probably know what we are writing here.  The benefits of the free exchange of information on the  internet have come with a  hidden price tag

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aztek
Just now, Tatetopa said:

Think about insurance companies buying information from 23and me or Ancestry,com for a peek at your genetic liabilities,  You could be born with a pre-existing condition. I don't think privacy laws are going to stop medical record collection.  I understand your concern about the state, but Google Amazon, Apple, Facebook ,and others were first in this game and are way ahead.  Those enterprises  do not stop at borders.  They have data on a sizable portion of humanity.  Amazon knows what you buy and Google and Apple are friends with every Bluetooth appliance in your house.  They know your bank accounts credit card numbers and security codes.  They probably know what we are writing here.  The benefits of the free exchange of information on the  internet have come with a  hidden price tag

yea, pretty much, that only proves we already have similar system,  few differences, but it's already here, been here for a while

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Tatetopa
5 minutes ago, aztek said:

yea, pretty much, that only proves we already have similar system,  few differences, but it's already here, been here for a while

Food for thought. States may be just a distraction while the world wide web is still establishing its dominance.

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aztek

it already has. 

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Dark_Grey
44 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

Think about insurance companies buying information from 23and me or Ancestry,com for a peek at your genetic liabilities,  You could be born with a pre-existing condition. I don't think privacy laws are going to stop medical record collection.  I understand your concern about the state, but Google Amazon, Apple, Facebook ,and others were first in this game and are way ahead.  Those enterprises  do not stop at borders.  They have data on a sizable portion of humanity.  Amazon knows what you buy and Google and Apple are friends with every Bluetooth appliance in your house.  They know your bank accounts credit card numbers and security codes.  They probably know what we are writing here.  The benefits of the free exchange of information on the  internet have come with a  hidden price tag

"23and me" reserves the right to sell your DNA profile to third party companies - it's all in the fine print that no one reads. While we are on a paranoid rant, look in to the history of Snapchat, the social media app that started the facial mapping trend with puppy dog overlays. Snapchat Conspiracy

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According to the FBI itself, the program -- officially known as the Next Generation Identification system -- would be charged with facial mapping mug shots currently in their system "to see if [they could] find bad guys by matching pictures with mug shots." Unless you're a criminal, that's a tough plan to argue with, except that it wasn't the whole truth. Gasp! 

An investigation by the Electronic Frontier Foundation revealed that the database would actually not just include criminals, but law-abiding citizens with no criminal history whatsoever as well. People who hold jobs of any kind that require them to submit a photo as part of a background check would end up in the database too.

Of course, there is absolutely zero evidence connecting Snapchat with the FBI in any way, shape, or form, nor any to suggest that Snapchat has reason to help build out the Next Generation Identification system, because surely, Snapchat's $150 million acquisition of facial-recognition technology has nothing to do with the government. Per Snapchat's own Terms of Service, the company makes it very clear that they delete the photos and videos you send after it's viewed by the other party. 

Harmless grass roots app or Government ploy to fool millions of people in to giving up more personal information?

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Robotic Jew
19 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Think about insurance companies buying information from 23and me or Ancestry,com for a peek at your genetic liabilities,  You could be born with a pre-existing condition. I don't think privacy laws are going to stop medical record collection.  I understand your concern about the state, but Google Amazon, Apple, Facebook ,and others were first in this game and are way ahead.  Those enterprises  do not stop at borders.  They have data on a sizable portion of humanity.  Amazon knows what you buy and Google and Apple are friends with every Bluetooth appliance in your house.  They know your bank accounts credit card numbers and security codes.  They probably know what we are writing here.  The benefits of the free exchange of information on the  internet have come with a  hidden price tag

We are only about 20 years away from the country being corporately sponsored...Welcome to the United States of Amazon....

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spartan max2
19 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Think about insurance companies buying information from 23and me or Ancestry,com for a peek at your genetic liabilities,  You could be born with a pre-existing condition. I don't think privacy laws are going to stop medical record collection.  I understand your concern about the state, but Google Amazon, Apple, Facebook ,and others were first in this game and are way ahead.  Those enterprises  do not stop at borders.  They have data on a sizable portion of humanity.  Amazon knows what you buy and Google and Apple are friends with every Bluetooth appliance in your house.  They know your bank accounts credit card numbers and security codes.  They probably know what we are writing here.  The benefits of the free exchange of information on the  internet have come with a  hidden price tag

I am pretty confident that if a case arose where an insurance company was raising rates because of your genetic information that legislation would be passed pretty quickly. 

There is a majority bi-partisan public support for not having your insurance raised for pre-existing conditions. Your gene are about as pre-existing as anything can get lol. So the public would not put up with your genetic information being used against by your insurance company. 

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spartan max2
18 hours ago, Dark_Grey said:

"23and me" reserves the right to sell your DNA profile to third party companies - it's all in the fine print that no one reads. While we are on a paranoid rant, look in to the history of Snapchat, the social media app that started the facial mapping trend with puppy dog overlays. Snapchat Conspiracy

Harmless grass roots app or Government ploy to fool millions of people in to giving up more personal information?

I have used 23andMe, and I knew that when I did it. 23andMe tells you they add it to their database, I am not sure how much the average person knows when they use 23andMe, they should have to state more loudly that they are going to be using your DNA information and selling.

But I am glad for letting them. 23 and Me and Ancestry conduct research and sell the DNA to researchers who conduct research. The large database they have is accelerating genetic research because it make it available. In the past it was difficult to get a large amount of genetic information. 

https://www.23andme.com/research/

These are their stated partners:

ACADEMIC:


University of Chicago

MRC Epidemiology Unit at Cambridge University

Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard

Stanford University

INDUSTRY:


Alnylam Pharmaceuticals, Inc.

Biogen

Genentech

Pfizer

P&G Beauty

NON-PROFITS:


Lupus Research Institute

The Michael J. Fox Foundation

National Parkinson Foundation

Parkinson's Institute and Clinical Center

 

 

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Robotic Jew
4 hours ago, spartan max2 said:

I am pretty confident that if a case arose where an insurance company was raising rates because of your genetic information that legislation would be passed pretty quickly

There is a majority bi-partisan public support for not having your insurance raised for pre-existing conditions. Your gene are about as pre-existing as anything can get lol. So the public would not put up with your genetic information being used against by your insurance company. 

Only if those insurance companies weren't paying for people to remain in office...

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spartan max2
6 hours ago, Robotic Jew said:

Only if those insurance companies weren't paying for people to remain in office...

Insurance companies would like to charge people more for having pre-existing condition too, yet the legislation to make them not be able to still passed. And I hear no politican say they want to get rid of it.

 

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preacherman76
On ‎12‎/‎6‎/‎2018 at 1:54 PM, Tatetopa said:

Think about insurance companies buying information from 23and me or Ancestry,com for a peek at your genetic liabilities,  You could be born with a pre-existing condition. I don't think privacy laws are going to stop medical record collection.  I understand your concern about the state, but Google Amazon, Apple, Facebook ,and others were first in this game and are way ahead.  Those enterprises  do not stop at borders.  They have data on a sizable portion of humanity.  Amazon knows what you buy and Google and Apple are friends with every Bluetooth appliance in your house.  They know your bank accounts credit card numbers and security codes.  They probably know what we are writing here.  The benefits of the free exchange of information on the  internet have come with a  hidden price tag

They definitely do. Yahoo keeps sending me their new terms of service and privacy policy for me to agree to. It straight says in it they want access to everything I do on the internet and my phone. Including listening to my phone conversations and reading my private text messages. They want access to not only everything I say in a public forum like this one, but they even want to read any private conversations I might have with people here.

So I wrote to them asking why I or anyone would ever agree to such a invasive policy. They simply told me I was free to discontinue use of their services. I couldn't believe it. They acted like the request was perfectly reasonable.

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aztek
On 12/8/2018 at 7:53 AM, preacherman76 said:

They definitely do. Yahoo keeps sending me their new terms of service and privacy policy for me to agree to. It straight says in it they want access to everything I do on the internet and my phone. Including listening to my phone conversations and reading my private text messages. They want access to not only everything I say in a public forum like this one, but they even want to read any private conversations I might have with people here.

So I wrote to them asking why I or anyone would ever agree to such a invasive policy. They simply told me I was free to discontinue use of their services. I couldn't believe it. They acted like the request was perfectly reasonable.

i get this page too, i just click on i"ll do  it later, when it comes to agree or leave i'll leave, i have yahoo email. but i donotuse it for anything serious anymore, wont miss it when i leave,. it is not just yahoo,. it's oath company, they own more than just yahoo,.https://www.oath.com/our-brands/

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