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Who or what was christ?

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remey

christ? the christ.

the christ, according to it's word was the SON OF MAN.
according to it's own words. not once did the SON OF MAN, refer to itself,
as the son of god. not once.

ppl all over the world[?] wud, more than likely say, w/o question that the christ, was the son of god.

only thing is[for sure]...the christ NEVER said by way of the bible
''I AM THE SON OF GOD''. so, what or who was it really?

you wud have to feel at least that in order to affirm such a [reckless] tittle,..the holder of such a title, wud make sure that confusion wud not thrive...yes?
one can only assume then that it was and did say it was son of god...but, it never said these words. :(

do ppl know for sure that it was the son of god or not? it is after all, important, yes?

why crucify the son of man otherwise? nothing different really to any other man out there.
plenty of them around 'now', never mind then.

are u ONE of these guys, a 'son of man'?
oh wait...you ARE! ur father was a man and u are...it's son.

so, who the what, or whatever, is the son of man.

men. are they all...son of man?
hmm, what of boys? are they too, son of man? eg. if u have one, ur [own] son?
very confusing. or is it?

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papageorge1

I believe Jesus was a great spiritual master and teacher. Unfortunately, I also think much about him has not come down to us clearly confusing his legacy.

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sci-nerd
5 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

I believe Jesus was a great spiritual master and teacher. Unfortunately, I also think much about him has not come down to us clearly confusing his legacy.

He was ahead of his time, like Buddha. We could even call him a jewish Buddha.

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papageorge1
17 minutes ago, sci-nerd said:

He was ahead of his time, like Buddha. We could even call him a jewish Buddha.

However Jesus stressed a belief in the spiritual  where Buddha stressed the practical. So maybe a blending of the two makes for the best Buddha for me.

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xYlvax

He was a man...born of a man and woman. It's that simple.

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remey

what a wonderful construct xYlvax...

what are we doing here?

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sci-nerd
31 minutes ago, remey said:

what are we doing here?

We're showing our descendants how their ancestors lived.

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Sir Wearer of Hats
2 hours ago, papageorge1 said:

I believe Jesus was a great spiritual master and teacher. Unfortunately, I also think much about him has not come down to us clearly confusing his legacy.

That’s what you get for naming a rock as your main PR guy.

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Sir Wearer of Hats
1 hour ago, papageorge1 said:

However Jesus stressed a belief in the spiritual  where Buddha stressed the practical. So maybe a blending of the two makes for the best Buddha for me.

Some sort of Jebuddhasus. 

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Sir Wearer of Hats
2 hours ago, sci-nerd said:

He was ahead of his time, like Buddha. We could even call him a jewish Buddha.

There’s some fringe thoerists who suggest that during the 20 odd years between his preaching in the temple as a child and his sermons with the Apostles he did go to China and study there.

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sci-nerd
1 minute ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

There’s some fringe thoerists who suggest that during the 20 odd years between his preaching in the temple as a child and his sermons with the Apostles he did go to China and study there.

Or, more likely, he could have met one who came from there, who told about Buddha.

Jesus going to the far east and back would take many years. Meeting someone from there would take no time.

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Sir Wearer of Hats
Just now, sci-nerd said:

Or, more likely, he could have met one who came from there, who told about Buddha.

Jesus going to the far east and back would take many years. Meeting someone from there would take no time.

Not really, a couple of years st the most - the Romans had traders going there all the time.

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Dejarma

IMO going by the research I've done over the years, in a nutshell:

Jesus Christ was the head of the Christian terrorist group fighting the Roman empire= well, to the Romans they would have been classed as terrorists..

He died to save us all probably derived from Pontius Pilate saying: 'give yourself up or I'll kill all the jailed Christians" but who knows? I don't that's for sure......

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sci-nerd
3 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Not really, a couple of years st the most - the Romans had traders going there all the time.

Yes, but what's more likely?

Occam's Razor says he didn't travel, but met a traveler. But both options are valid.

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remey

the problem is...we are all son of man.
same as any living item's son...as u might see it.

we are exact same as the creator who made each one of us, the parents supposedly.
however...the christ, was not from here. the man, was.

how many of members here, have suffered deja vu?
'reality'? seemingly, if or as u suffer this, more than likely[over 51% majority :) ] u r a re-incarnation!

i supposedly am. i opened the eyes in this head, in a cot 65 years ago. i remember it well, to this moment.
did u open ur eyes inside a tiny body and u felt that u were too big for body and cot....and know w/o a doubt...u were there, right there and then.

do u remember?
if not, but, u have suffered[ and it is a suffering ] deja vu, u are a re-incarnation. many don't suffer it. does that mean, we are here for them. was there anyone here for YOU?
john trudell, who has left here, via 'stage left'...was the same as i but this idiot was destroyed.


he mentioned in a short vid, that ''when i arrived here, i was knocked unconscious''. due to care and attention from the folks around and near him, the man, j. trudell, survived well enuff, to go forward with such as what was available as food and provide that food plus alot more to the world. he was 'crazy horse'. i wud like to have met that man and spoken with him. we wud be a happy pair, heading off to somewhere other than where we all are now with the codex safe and sound carefully carried to why we are all here
...and we wud have.
wud anyone wish to head out to 'K-Pax'? am not crazy. the last 65 years were nothing else but, pure madeness and sickness!!!! :)
and worser! cos the train won't leave w/o those codex. i need someone. am not allowed to carry the codex. one? only one is needed.
what we think and what is...are they 3 different things? :(
as and if u want, enuff...you will have.

as u think, and then do...that think...

it is there, right in front

and then left behind,

you. the carry is what it is all about. we want to get to home...or stay here?

edit: u saw that bit of entertainment, 'fight club' yeah?
hmm, 'what if'? famous last words. or are they?

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seanjo

Real or fictional, God or Man, his teachings are inspirational and can be summed up with " be nice".

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Harte
26 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Some sort of Jebuddhasus. 

Budsuds.

Or... Humperdoo?

Harte

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and then
4 hours ago, remey said:

only thing is[for sure]...the christ NEVER said by way of the bible
''I AM THE SON OF GOD''. so, what or who was it really?

Actually, He DID say He was God.  If you are truly interested in learning about what He said about Himself you can do so in a couple of scriptures.  If you are unwilling to read or credit scripture with any accuracy then learning about Jesus isn't happening.  There are plenty here who will tell you everything He ISN'T.  

http://www.bibleversestudy.com/johngospel/john8-before-abraham-was-i-am.htm    

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Sir Wearer of Hats

And technically, he WASNT the son of any man. Woman, certainly, but there was no man. 

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Razumov

https://www.amazon.com/New-Testament-David-Bentley-Hart/dp/0300186096

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David Bentley Hart undertook this new translation of the New Testament in the spirit of “etsi doctrina non daretur,” “as if doctrine is not given.” Reproducing the texts’ often fragmentary formulations without augmentation or correction, he has produced a pitilessly literal translation, one that captures the texts’ impenetrability and unfinished quality while awakening readers to an uncanniness that often lies hidden beneath doctrinal layers.
 
The early Christians’ sometimes raw, astonished, and halting prose challenges the idea that the New Testament affirms the kind of people we are. Hart reminds us that they were a company of extremists, radical in their rejection of the values and priorities of society not only at its most degenerate, but often at its most reasonable and decent. “To live as the New Testament language requires,” he writes, “Christians would have to become strangers and sojourners on the earth, to have here no enduring city, to belong to a Kingdom truly not of this world. And we surely cannot do that, can we?”

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freetoroam
6 hours ago, remey said:

ppl all over the world[?] wud, more than likely say, w/o question that the christ, was the son of god.

No they would not, it is common knowledge he never said he was. 

Post #2 basically covers it.

But my question to you is,  were you in a real hurry when you typed this out? 

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freetoroam
3 hours ago, remey said:

how many of members here, have suffered deja vu?
'reality'? seemingly, if or as u suffer this, more than likely[over 51% majority :) ] u r a re-incarnation!

as and if u want, enuff

What are you on about? We are the descendants of the past generations.  

Please note you are on a forum, you have spent the time to post so can you spent a little more time in typing correctly. There is no need to shorten your words, we are in no big hurry.

You are trying to debate about a person who allegedly live over 2000 years ago and yet you can not spend that extra 2 seconds in completing words.

You posting is frustation to read and i can hardly make heads or tails of it.

 

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seanjo
2 minutes ago, freetoroam said:

live over 2000 years ago

lived...:D

Sorry.

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