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narayan

why don't eat onion and garlic, mushrooms ?

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Iilaa'mpuul'xem
2 hours ago, Piney said:

I'm a 50 years old Native American and in better shape than most 20 years old and my cooking is so spicy it was listed as a WMD and national threat by the British Government and use to have Gurkha's running for ice cubes. 

I call superstitious nonsense on this. :yes:

 Agreed, and because the British Government listed it as a WMD is the reason you don't visit.

I am 53 and fitter than most 20 year olds, I walk 15 to 18 miles a day during the week and around 6 a day at weekends with the dogs across the moors... I do enjoy my wild garlic.

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Piney
5 hours ago, narayan said:

spicy foods cause stomach disease Diarrhea !!!!!!!!!!! :angry:

 

Nope, Bacteria or viruses do. 

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kapow53
9 hours ago, Piney said:

I'm a 50 years old Native American and in better shape than most 20 years old and my cooking is so spicy it was listed as a WMD and national threat by the British Government and use to have Gurkha's running for ice cubes. 

I call superstitious nonsense on this. :yes:

Me too.  I'm Polish.

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kapow53

Not sure life would be worth it without onions, garlic, mushrooms, peppers and related items.  Must be some unhappy people.

 

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rashore
10 hours ago, narayan said:

 

 

 sattvic diet -fresh, organic fruit and vegetables ,whole grains and nuts, dairy products such as milk and ghee,butter, cream ,beans and lentils plant-based oils,mildly sweet foods (natural, unrefined sugars), honey, molasses

low spicy such as cinnamon, basil, low spicy green and  red  chilli  like  Small Hot Peppers

or  Capsicum , coriander, ginger and turmeric ,Cardamom  ,Garam Masala - https://www.thespruceeats.com/what-is-garam-masala-995690 it is ok 

rajasic - Foods that are very hot, bitter, sour, dry, or salty and smelly  seafood  are rajasic.

tamasic foods - all meat, alcohol, tobacco, onions and garlic (sexual desire  lust)

,mushroom  grow in the dark and smell like fish (cooking)  ,fermented foods, such as vinegar. hight spicy barbaric method

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Very interesting. I’ve not encountered someone of your faith before to know of any of the food applications of your faith. A bunch of different faiths have different food traditions, rituals, rules.I grew up in a household that didn’t have any faith based food associations. Do you know why your faith has developed the food culture it has? I realize not everyone is a food historian, but I’ve gleaned interesting information from a lot of folks about various religious food lores.

Could you provide the links to the sites you are copying this information from please? It’s part of the site rules to do so, and it would be nice for folks to do further reading if they are inclined to do so. 

I fear I wouldn’t be able to keep up with your diet. I like all the stuff on the list, good and bad, lol. I do like Garam Masala, I’ve sometimes made my own. Do you use green or black cardamom, or both? I also typically use the standard brown coriander that’s found around here, but I had a friend send me some red coriander seed they got in India that I’m excited to grow out next year to try out.

Alcohol, vinegar, and ferments. Both in the no for you. Though two processes between those is different, with alcohol and vinegar based off yeast process, and most other ferments styles of lacto-fermentation typically have a heavy salt base. Where does that go with leavening in breads and such for you? Is yeast ok, or no, or ok for fast breads, but no soured cultures? Or do you use other leavening agents?

 

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The Gremlin

I love these threads....keep it going.....

Is this indian belief linked (or intertwined) with the caste system?

Wealthy folk...or religious sooth sayers who rely on the charity of believers eat mild and un-spiced food,

While the poorer you get the hotter your (less safe) meat?

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Mr Walker
On 10/12/2018 at 3:53 AM, narayan said:

Onions and garlic are botanical members of the alliaceous family (alliums) - along with leeks, chives and shallots.  

Edible mushrooms are the fleshy and edible fruit bodies of several species of macrofungi (fungi which bear fruiting structures that are large enough to be seen with the naked eye). They can appear either below ground (hypogeous) or above ground (epigeous) where they may be picked by hand

:) Vaishnavas - followers of Lord Vishnu, Rama and Krishna - like to only cook with foods from the sattvic category. These foods include fresh fruits, vegetables and herbs, dairy products, grains and legumes, and so on. Specifically, Vaisnavas do not like to cook with rajasic or tamasic foods because they are unfit to offer to the Deity.

In Bhagavad Gita

Text* 8: Foods dear to those in the mode of goodness increase the duration of life, purify one's existence and give strength, health, happiness and satisfaction. Such foods are juicy, fatty, wholesome, and pleasing to the heart.

Text* 9: Foods that are too bitter, too sour, salty, hot, pungent, dry and burning are dear to those in the mode of passion. Such foods cause distress, misery and disease.

That is interesting. I didn't realise that there was such an avoidance of certain food types  in this area of religion.

Of course such prohibitions and  warnings are common in all   Abrahamic religions,  and many religions avoid meat completely, or that from  specific animals .

it is interesting that all such prohibitions are based not just on  on religious/spiritual beliefs, but on health rationales, even where ignorance  meant the prohibition was not totally necessary.

Some ancient prohibitions which were once needed are no longer so, given modern  food hygiene, refrigeration etc.   It is fascinating that this paragraph describes the mythological pre flood biblical diet (withe exception of dairy foods)  and also the one recommended by some modern religions and many health practitioners 

These foods include fresh fruits, vegetables and herbs, dairy products, grains and legumes, and so on.

 

 

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Mr Walker
On 10/12/2018 at 3:59 AM, XenoFish said:

I think the dietary restrictions need a major update. Nutrition has come a long way since that stuff was written.

That is certainly true.

And yet.

The oldest biblical diet (very similar to the one described in the OP) is exactly the diet most highly recommended by modern cardiac specialists Ie vegetarian, and strongest in vegetables, fruits, legumes and some grains;  and more and more, modern science is finding health  risks in many types of meat, but especially red meat, and cooked or processed meats. 

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Mr Walker

Reading through, there seem to be a number of posters biased against such diets because they are sometimes religious based. However the diets were introduced INTO religions because people observed the positive and negative effects of many types of food, and made up rules and laws reinforced by religions, to direct people to healthy eating .

All the biblical prohibitions have good scientific bases,  although some are less critical in modern times, given modern knowledge and practice.

Eg any scavenger, from a cray fish, to  a  pig, to any bird of prey,  is likely to have a high level of contaminants and natural poisons, simply because it is a the end of a food chain.

Animals which eat directly from  vegetation are less at risk   

Of course modern humans simply eat far too much, and far too much protein, sugar and processed foods.  

The diet described in the OP might be boring, but billions of people live on something similar and it IS recognised and recommended as a very healthy diet by medical professionals and nutritionists

it does stagger me how few modern people have any real understanding of the connection between good health, and the foods we eat, and the positives and negatives of food types 

On the other hand, about 11% of present day Australians are vegetarians. I am not, although I eat much less meat than most and far less than i once did.  

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narayan
On 12/30/2018 at 2:24 PM, Mr Walker said:

That is interesting. I didn't realise that there was such an avoidance of certain food types  in this area of religion.

Of course such prohibitions and  warnings are common in all   Abrahamic religions,  and many religions avoid meat completely, or that from  specific animals .

it is interesting that all such prohibitions are based not just on  on religious/spiritual beliefs, but on health rationales, even where ignorance  meant the prohibition was not totally necessary.

Some ancient prohibitions which were once needed are no longer so, given modern  food hygiene, refrigeration etc.   It is fascinating that this paragraph describes the mythological pre flood biblical diet (withe exception of dairy foods)  and also the one recommended by some modern religions and many health practitioners 

These foods include fresh fruits, vegetables and herbs, dairy products, grains and legumes, and so on.

 

 

yaa good:tsu:

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