Ares_Zeusson Posted December 23, 2018 #76 Share Posted December 23, 2018 On 12/19/2018 at 2:35 AM, xxxdemonxxx said: At 0:04 at the very beginning of the vid, under her arm you see a figurine shaped exactly like the "enitity". It's simply this figurine ni the background, it's arm in the exact same position. This is the best shot i could get. I totally missed that. Here I was thinking it was much larger & in the back corner of the room but yep. It's tiny & only a couple feet away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uber Doubter Posted December 23, 2018 #77 Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Ares_Zeusson said: I totally missed that. Here I was thinking it was much larger & in the back corner of the room but yep. It's tiny & only a couple feet away. But that is in the other room. She walks through this room and into the room with the picture. It may very well be that this is the figurine that we keep seeing - but it MOVES. From this counter and into the other room, all the way to the left of that picture, before it moves back. Interesting, isn't it? Here I've compared the 3 different positions - Two different rooms, and two different positions in the second room: Left of picture, then left side of doorway. Edited December 23, 2018 by Uber Doubter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careful_perspective Posted December 23, 2018 #78 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Why was this recorded? That's what im confused about. I don't facetime often, but i cant recall ever recording it? Also while shes on her two minute rant and the thing is seen, why isn't her friend involved in the conversation at all? Not even a "Uh-huh" "Yeah" type of response? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonman Posted December 23, 2018 #79 Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Uber Doubter said: But that is in the other room. She walks through this room and into the room with the picture. It may very well be that this is the figurine that we keep seeing - but it MOVES. From this counter and into the other room, all the way to the left of that picture, before it moves back. Interesting, isn't it? Here I've compared the 3 different positions - Two different rooms, and two different positions in the second room: Left of picture, then left side of doorway. It's a small statue on a couter island in the middle of the room and she circles around it. It doesn't move, she does. First picture, she's all lit up standing next to lamp shown in second two pics and in front of island. Second two pics she's on opposite side of island and in the dark side of the room. Statue remains on island and behind her. It's not a mystery, it's not a hoax, it's a simple optical illusion. If you want to debate that go ahead but it's a stupid waste of time, that's all it is. Edited December 23, 2018 by moonman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uber Doubter Posted December 23, 2018 #80 Share Posted December 23, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, moonman said: It's a small statue on a couter island in the middle of the room and she circles around it. It doesn't move, she does. First picture, she's all lit up standing next to lamp shown in second two pics and in front of island. Second two pics she's on opposite side of island and in the dark side of the room. Statue remains on island and behind her. It's not a mystery, it's not a hoax, it's a simple optical illusion. If you want to debate that go ahead but it's a stupid waste of time, that's all it is. The counter on which the figure is first spotted, is to the right of her, and indeed on the opposite side of the wall with the picture and the christmas tree. She starts out in the washing room, enters the kitchen, with the counter to the right/behind her - and we see the figure under her arm. She then moves along parallel to the counter, and at the time where she has her back to the christmas tree, that counter is to her right, and indeed to the right of that door opening. That is the same door opening she gets out of in the beginning, and as we see the figure under her arm, she is facing towards the wall with the picture and the christmas tree. Follow the movements. The christmas tree is NOT on the same side as that counter. Edited December 23, 2018 by Uber Doubter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretSanta Posted December 23, 2018 #81 Share Posted December 23, 2018 1 hour ago, Careful_perspective said: Why was this recorded? That's what im confused about. I don't facetime often, but i cant recall ever recording it? Also while shes on her two minute rant and the thing is seen, why isn't her friend involved in the conversation at all? Not even a "Uh-huh" "Yeah" type of response? Because she was using the Marco Polo app which is recorded first and then sent. I’ve never used it but that’s what I’ve read on the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careful_perspective Posted December 23, 2018 #82 Share Posted December 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, SecretSanta said: Because she was using the Marco Polo app which is recorded first and then sent. I’ve never used it but that’s what I’ve read on the internet. Oh my. That's kind of cool. How interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted December 23, 2018 #83 Share Posted December 23, 2018 10 hours ago, Uber Doubter said: No, it moved. From the left hand of the picture to the doorway. It is not person sized, but that doesn't make it any less creepy. It is evident from later movements of the camera, that there is nothing left on the left hand side of the picture anymore - so there are not two "figurines" or whatever one chooses to call it. Right after she talks about getting a bed that is "...off the fe-loor", it seems like the thing now standing in the doorway sort of retreats ever so slightly back into the opening. That's about 24 seconds in. Are you serious? It didn't move. The camera shot did. The thing you're claim is the ghost or whatever are two different things. You can see the door object already in frame with the first picture and more fully in the second one. Is this what's considered evidence now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFire22 Posted December 27, 2018 #84 Share Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) Non-serious-Photographers have NO grasp of optical illusion of cameras Edited December 27, 2018 by DragonFire22 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DragonFire22 Posted December 27, 2018 #85 Share Posted December 27, 2018 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/best-optical-illusions-viral-stumped-the-internet-12-top-pictures-funny-a7948921.html 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted December 27, 2018 #86 Share Posted December 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, DragonFire22 said: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/best-optical-illusions-viral-stumped-the-internet-12-top-pictures-funny-a7948921.html yep, good link that shows proof of misinterpretation.. when there's no proof of something of this nature it immediately turns into a supernatural/ unknown entity encounter enhanced with exaggeration & the odd lie thrown in to try & get the listener to feel the way they did when experiencing something they don't understand .. this kinda thing has been happening for thousands of years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted December 30, 2018 #87 Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) On 12/24/2018 at 4:52 AM, XenoFish said: Are you serious? It didn't move. The camera shot did. The thing you're claim is the ghost or whatever are two different things. You can see the door object already in frame with the first picture and more fully in the second one. Is this what's considered evidence now? This inability to understand relative motion and how perspective works, rather reminds me of one of the 'photo experts' who briefly appeared in the initial investigations into JFK's death. Somehow, a guy named Jack White (who was a conspiracy theorist / idiot and was completely untrained in photographic analysis) managed to convince someone he was an expert, but under simple questioning about perspective and some other very basic aspects of photogrammetry, he was revealed as a pretender and his 'analysis' was thrown out even though he was not immediately ejected from the investigation. I guess, seeing what's happening in the USA at the moment, it should not be surprising that talentless pretenders manage to gain positions of power... but it is depressing. Edited December 30, 2018 by ChrLzs correction, White was, unbelievably, NOT immediately ejected.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uber Doubter Posted December 31, 2018 #88 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I went back and reviewed the video yet again - while the wall with the tree and the picture indeed is on the opposite side of the counter with the figure, I underestimated the amount of movement she had perpendicular to it. She actually moves past the counter, and thereby has the figure behind her - while I thought the counter remained to her right. So it's not two different things, or a single thing that moves several meters, it's the same figure that's seen under her arm in the beginning. As for the snotty remarks about "photo experts" and "non-serious-photographers": I think I know a thing or two about cameras and photography that you don't. As for this video, it's not so much an "optical illusion" as disorienting movements through an apartment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted January 1, 2019 #89 Share Posted January 1, 2019 23 hours ago, Uber Doubter said: I went back and reviewed the video yet again - while the wall with the tree and the picture indeed is on the opposite side of the counter with the figure, I underestimated the amount of movement she had perpendicular to it. She actually moves past the counter, and thereby has the figure behind her - while I thought the counter remained to her right. So it's not two different things, or a single thing that moves several meters, it's the same figure that's seen under her arm in the beginning. Mmmm. As was pointed out by several folks (inc me) quite early... 23 hours ago, Uber Doubter said: As for the snotty remarks about "photo experts" and "non-serious-photographers": I think I know a thing or two about cameras and photography that you don't. Those remarks were neither snotty or directed at anyone in particular. Given your misinterpretation and errors admitted above, however, the readers might wonder about your proclaimed abilities - I think it a little unwise to make assumptions / putdowns based on your opinion of others, after that.... Had you asked questions rather making those proclamations, especially given that others had already covered that ground.... 23 hours ago, Uber Doubter said: As for this video, it's not so much an "optical illusion" as disorienting movements through an apartment. As far as I can see, no-one is referring to optical illusions in this case. Even so perspective errors and lighting issues can often create an illusion. Dragonfire's link used those words and was a useful addition - I suspect his first language may not be English, so I'm not really seeing a problem with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Summerin1905 Posted February 18, 2019 #90 Share Posted February 18, 2019 oh **** its me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simbi Laveau Posted February 18, 2019 #91 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Was debunked I believe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted February 18, 2019 #92 Share Posted February 18, 2019 If a creepy figure didnt appear in my pictures backgrounds ( i dont video chat ) then i would be scared... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Walt' E. Kurtz Posted February 18, 2019 #93 Share Posted February 18, 2019 Oh no she is going to get probed by the aliens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankhael Posted March 2, 2019 #94 Share Posted March 2, 2019 What if all ghost are made of em waves, and thats why they appear on electronic devices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerrym Posted March 3, 2019 #95 Share Posted March 3, 2019 I think its fake. Probably got mistaken by some other object such as a human or a toy something else. It needs to me more clear. Its really hard to tell. So ill say its fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ensanity Posted March 3, 2019 #96 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Oh the *** is strong with this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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