Gromdor 8,148 #1 Posted December 11, 2018 I'm kind of surprised no one has talked about this yet: https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/11/business/huawei-cfo-arrest-details/index.html Basically she was arrested in Canada for extradition to the US for fraud. The fraud charge is basically based around her activities to continue doing business with Iran violating US sanctions while using the US banking system. She's looking at 30yrs in jail. Her arrest happened on the same day China and Trump agreed to 90 day talks to try and cool down the trade war which kinda put a dampener on the whole deal. Also Huawei was the company accused of using the technology they sold to spy on people. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kennp 2 #2 Posted December 11, 2018 saw this last week and thought that the US is going a little to far with telling other countries how to act with the sanctions the US has impacted on Iran , but if the article above is correct then maybe she should be held accountable . 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aztek 16,474 #3 Posted December 11, 2018 eliminating competition, huawei is 3rd largest cell phone maker, that tries to get on us market dominated by apple and samsung. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark_Grey 13,122 #4 Posted December 11, 2018 The plot thickens.. Former CDN Diplomat Arrested in China Quote News of Kovrig's detention comes after China warned Canada of consequences for its recent arrest of Huawei chief financial officer Meng Wanzhou at Vancouver's airport. So far, it's unclear if there is any link between the two cases. Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale was asked Tuesday about the possibility Kovrig's detention was in retaliation for Meng's arrest. "We're obviously worried about whenever a Canadian is put in a situation that puts them at some risk or jeopardy, where's there's no apparent or obvious cause or trigger for that" Goodale said. "So, before we characterize it, we want to make sure we get all the facts. But at the same time we are sparing no effort to do everything we possibly can to look after his safety." Goodale added the government is "sparing no effort" to find out everything it can about the case. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aztek 16,474 #5 Posted December 11, 2018 she was not wanted in Canada, why did they arrest her in a first place? there are thousands of us army deserters who live in Canada, yet Canada is in no rush to extradite, yet her they had to arrest, only supports my opinion, competition elimination. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark_Grey 13,122 #6 Posted December 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, aztek said: she was not wanted in Canada, why did they arrest her in a first place? there are thousands of us army deserters who live in Canada, yet Canada is in no rush to extradite, yet her they had to arrest, only supports my opinion, competition elimination. By who, Apple? Samsung has no American loyalties. Unless there she is guilty of something serious that isn't being made public. I know last year the US State Dept. sent out a memo advising people to not buy Huawei phones as there was a concern they contained Chinese spyware Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aztek 16,474 #7 Posted December 11, 2018 (edited) Just now, Dark_Grey said: By who, Apple? Samsung has no American loyalties. i think neither has American loyalty, but they have American market, billions of lost profits. us gvmnt is controled by corporations. do you really believe national security b.s. what threat to security would a possible hacking of your phone create??? i have no doubt there is 0 risk, gvmnt only want to be able to hack your phone. Edited December 11, 2018 by aztek Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dark_Grey 13,122 #8 Posted December 11, 2018 3 minutes ago, aztek said: i think neither has American loyalty, but they have American market, billions of lost profits. us gvmnt is controled by corporations. do you really believe national security b.s. what threat to security would a possible hacking of your phone create??? i have no doubt there is 0 risk, gvmnt only want to be able to hack your phone. I'm not sure if I believe the spyware story. I haven't read the official report on that. Most likely you are right that it is related to corporate warfare Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kittens Are Jerks 5,016 #9 Posted December 12, 2018 She's been freed on bail. https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/11/huawei-sabrina-meng-arrest-bail-1058527 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Earl.Of.Trumps 2,475 #10 Posted December 12, 2018 5 hours ago, aztek said: she was not wanted in Canada, why did they arrest her in a first place? there are thousands of us army deserters who live in Canada, yet Canada is in no rush to extradite, yet her they had to arrest, only supports my opinion, competition elimination. Good point. I know we have an extradition treaty with Canada so no problem, legally, with the arrest. Maybe such out of country arrests have to do with the severity of the charges. There are times, for example, that a prisoner in say -Texas, who has outstanding warrants in - say, Michigan, is set free because Michigan doesn't think it's worth having to pay for his transfer to Michigan to face charges. Not sure here. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
third_eye 30,749 #11 Posted December 12, 2018 There is nothing to hold or charge a CFO on, they are just the 'face' and spokesperson in business meetings, who does what with who along the sales and marketing line is beyond the scope of the CFO or CEO or whatever ... this is just the pinheads and suits dipping the toes in the public opinion pools to test the temperature. ~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gromdor 8,148 #12 Posted December 13, 2018 Hmm. A second Canadian arrested: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/12/world/asia/michael-spavor-canadian-detained-china.html And Trump mentioned he might use her as a bargaining chip: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/13/huawei-cfo-arrest-pushback-against-trump-who-says-he-may-intervene.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eldorado 32,258 #13 Posted January 18 (edited) Related: Germany is considering ways to block Huawei from its next generation mobile phone network, according to reports. Berlin is exploring stricter security requirements which may prevent Huawei products being used in its 5G network. Many countries have pushed against the involvement of the Chinese technology firm in their 5G networks over security concerns. The networks represent the next big wave of mobile infrastructure. The Chinese company, one of the world's biggest producers of telecoms equipment, has faced resistance from foreign governments over the risk that its technology could be used for espionage. Full script: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46914489 Oxford University has reportedly suspended all funding and sponsorship from Huawei amid growing security concerns. In an email sent to computer science doctoral students, seen by the South China Morning Post, the university said its Committee to Review Donations made the decision to block Huawei funding temporarily. Full report: https://www.itpro.co.uk/security/32786/oxford-uni-blocks-huawei-donations-amid-security-concerns Edited January 18 by Eldorado 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
third_eye 30,749 #14 Posted January 18 Looking like all you folks will be forcibly herded towards upgrading everything from Computers to Smart phones and TVs these coming year ... frankly speaking, I believe this has more to do with trare earth mining operations making little to no headway recently Quote ~ [00.10.05] ~ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golden Duck 3,911 #15 Posted January 18 5 hours ago, third_eye said: Looking like all you folks will be forcibly herded towards upgrading everything from Computers to Smart phones and TVs these coming year ... frankly speaking, I believe this has more to do with trare earth mining operations making little to no headway recently So is Xi Jinping... Black Panda? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kittens Are Jerks 5,016 #16 Posted January 29 Update: The US Justice Department has charged Huawei with fraud. The Justice Department announced criminal charges Monday against Huawei Technologies, the world’s largest communications equipment manufacturer, and one of its top executives — a move likely to intensify trade tensions between the United States and China. A 13-count indictment filed in New York City against Huawei, two affiliates and its chief financial officer, Meng Wanzhou, details allegations of bank and wire fraud. The company also is charged with violating U.S. sanctions on Iran and conspiring to obstruct justice related to the investigation. Canadian officials arrested Meng on a U.S. warrant Dec. 1. She has since been released on bail, and her travel is confined to Vancouver and surrounding areas. Meng could face up to 30 years if found guilty on all counts. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/justice-dept-charges-huawei-with-fraud-ratcheting-up-us-china-tensions/2019/01/28/70a7f550-2320-11e9-81fd-b7b05d5bed90_story.html?utm_term=.cefdc0680d71 The 13-count indictment: https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1125021/download?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
