Trump inauguration spending 'under criminal

[Gromdor]

51 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

AHHHHH.... you KNOW he's guilty ? No need for a trial. No need for presentation of evidence. No need for a jury. He's just "guilty"

So when you make statements like "It's a FACT that he's guilty", what you ACTUALLY mean is "I don't like him, so I WANT him to be guilty". 

Who's denying reality, ExpandMyMind ? It is YOU who is equating accusation with guilt, not me  

Well, he has reached (and possibly exceeded) the same level as the Clintons with all the heaps of shadiness and evidence stacked against him.  That's enough for tens of millions to start chanting, "Lock him/her up!" here in the States.  We have plenty of posters here that are convinced of guilt without a trial for various individuals we talk about.

Edited December 14, 2018 by Gromdor

[ExpandMyMind]

36 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

'Tis a witch.. 'tis a witch.. burn it.. burn it..... 

What we seem to be finding out is that, apparently, there are a lot of witches in the Trump team - including the man himself. Who knew.

You can't really call it a witch hunt when they keep finding and prosecuting criminals. Well, you can I guess, but it'd be stupid.

[aztek]

wow, more TDS threads, lol,  i'm so glad trump brought this garbage to the surface, we know a lot more about people now, their demons are out. true worth is out for all to see,

Edited December 14, 2018 by aztek

[Tiggs]

1 hour ago, RoofGardener said:

'Tis a witch.. 'tis a witch.. burn it.. burn it..... 

Possibly doesn't help that the accused's lawyer is currently running around saying "This was not a big crime".

Kind of adds to the public perception that the accused committed a crime, after all.

Either way -- this thread is about the criminal investigation into the Trump Inauguration, and not the criminal investigation into the payment of Trump's mistresses. That's currently being discussed, here.

[Tiggs]

When it came out this year that President Donald Trump’s inaugural committee raised and spent unprecedented amounts, people wondered where all that money went.

It turns out one beneficiary was Trump himself.

The inauguration paid the Trump Organization for rooms, meals and event space at the company’s Washington hotel, according to interviews as well as internal emails and receipts reviewed by WNYC and ProPublica.

During the planning, Ivanka Trump, the president-elect’s eldest daughter and a senior executive with the Trump Organization, was involved in negotiating the price the hotel charged the 58th Presidential Inaugural Committee for venue rentals. A top inaugural planner emailed Ivanka and others at the company to “express my concern” that the hotel was overcharging for its event spaces, worrying of what would happen “when this is audited.”

Source: ProPublica.

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Sooo.... a man who, we can all agree, knew very little about the ins and outs of Washington got antsy about what he saw as theft, and something something therefore Trump is a criminal?

[RAyMO]

3 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Sooo.... a man who, we can all agree, knew very little about the ins and outs of Washington got antsy about what he saw as theft, and something something therefore Trump is a criminal?

ignorance in no excuse in law.

Edited December 14, 2018 by RAyMO

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

Just now, RAyMO said:

ignorance in no excuse in law. However just listening to a radio station which claims that Cohen has stated Trump knew exactly what he was doing.

But Trump wasn’t breaking the law, he was having a sooky-fit and shouting at his minions.

[Gromdor]

3 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Sooo.... a man who, we can all agree, knew very little about the ins and outs of Washington got antsy about what he saw as theft, and something something therefore Trump is a criminal?

If what Tiggs posted above you is correct, then it truly was theft since he was planning to siphon all the money for himself via overcharged payments to Trump Organization. 

[Kismit]

23 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Sooo.... a man who, we can all agree, knew very little about the ins and outs of Washington got antsy about what he saw as theft, and something something therefore Trump is a criminal?

Also if what Tiggs posted is correct, you don't have to understand the ins and outs of Washington to know that lining your own pockets with donated (someone else's) money is at least morally wrong. And certainly does not look good. Particularly if the prices where increased to extend on profit.  That shows a certain level of thought actively went into these particular ventures.

It's always a Friday afternoon news dump though isn't it. 

[Tatetopa]

10 hours ago, Buzz_Light_Year said:

What I find boring is your TDS.

Yeah, I guess you put that in the clinical texts along with with the famous IDS (immigrant derangement syndrome), SDS (socialist derangement syndrome), PDS (prog derangement syndrome)  WPDDS (white privilege denial derangement syndrome)  WNAWDS (we need a wall derangement syndrome), PEDS (press is the enemy derangement syndrome) DWDADS(democrats will destroy America derangement syndrome).

Kinda makes one jealous, the conservs have so many to choose from, we only have the TDS.

Edited December 14, 2018 by Tatetopa
corrected spelling

[Tatetopa]

6 hours ago, aztek said:

wow, more TDS threads, lol,  i'm so glad trump brought this garbage to the surface, we know a lot more about people now, their demons are out. true worth is out for all to see,

Wow, totally excellent point.  The Presidents true worth, fears,  and all of his demons are coming out. 

 

[Tatetopa]

1 hour ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Sooo.... a man who, we can all agree, knew very little about the ins and outs of Washington got antsy about what he saw as theft, and something something therefore Trump is a criminal?

No no, just a diversion, and now might shed some light on why Christie  just said no thanks to the Chief of Staff position.  it is mildly interesting how he thinks of donations raised  by his campaign committees  as "my money."  Unless of course those foreign donors using fake organizations were just trying to buy favors from the future president and he knew it.  

[Tatetopa]

1 hour ago, Kismit said:

Also if what Tiggs posted is correct, you don't have to understand the ins and outs of Washington to know that lining your own pockets with donated (someone else's) money is at least morally wrong.

Yep I forgot about that point.  Another way it was "his money".  Now that has me wondering, how much do you think he stands to make off building that wall?  10%, or 20% if he funnels construction through his associates?  $8 billion dollars skimmed off the $40 billion appropriation is a real good reason for him to want that wall built.  It would go a long way toward making the hassle of being president worthwhile.  Oh man, is my TDS showing?  You can flame me on this if you want,I am over the line, I deserve it.  Just having a little Friday fun and got carried away..

[Sir Wearer of Hats]

5 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Yeah, I guess you put that in the clinical texts along with with the famous IDS (immigrant derangement syndrome), SDS (socialist derangement syndrome), PDS (prog derangement syndrome)  WPDDS (white privilege denial derangement syndrome)  WNAWDS (we need a wall derangement syndrome), PEDS (press is the enemy derangement syndrome) DWDADS(democrats will destroy America derangement syndrome).

Kinda makes one jealous, the conservs have so many to choose from, we only have the TDS.

Not to mention .... DSDS Drangement Syndrome Derangement Syndrome.

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

6 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Yeah, I guess you put that in the clinical texts along with with the famous IDS (immigrant derangement syndrome), SDS (socialist derangement syndrome), PDS (prog derangement syndrome)  WPDDS (white privilege denial derangement syndrome)  WNAWDS (we need a wall derangement syndrome), PEDS (press is the enemy derangement syndrome) DWDADS(democrats will destroy America derangement syndrome).

Kinda makes one jealous, the conservs have so many to choose from, we only have the TDS.

lol

there ya go, tat! making fun of my people again

oh, and let's not forget, the dems have WNIS,   We Need IIlegals Syndrome.   Just saying, bub 

[RoofGardener]

4 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Not to mention .... DSDS Drangement Syndrome Derangement Syndrome.

What a deranged concept ! 

[aztek]

On 12/14/2018 at 5:51 PM, Tatetopa said:

Wow, totally excellent point.  The Presidents true worth, fears,  and all of his demons are coming out. 

 

it is not about his demons and worth, it is about yours, but you knew it already didn't you?

Edited December 17, 2018 by aztek

[Tatetopa]

1 hour ago, aztek said:

it is not about his demons and worth, it is about yours, but you knew it already didn't you?

Well to be fair aztek, it is about me, and you, and all of us.  We all experience TDS in either its positive or negative manifestation. 

[aztek]

Just now, Tatetopa said:

Well to be fair aztek, it is about me, and you, and all of us.  We all experience TDS in either its positive or negative manifestation. 

no we do not. only select few. and no, there is nothing positive about being deranged.

Edited December 17, 2018 by aztek

[RoofGardener]

Well then... lets wait for a few weeks, and see if charges are leveled ? 

But I'm willing to bet that they won't be. 

Havn't we been here before ? Trump - or one of his underlings - is about to be charged with something-or-other. But for the most part, it all seems to just peter out ? 

[RoofGardener]

Ahhhhh... wait.. I see now. 

This whole thing comes from a single source; the Wall Street Journal. The WSJ claims that their "source" states that there was an investigation going on by the Manhattan attorney general's office.

Every single story on this issue goes back to that single source. There is no independent corroboration. 

What's the betting that this is the last we will hear of the matter ? 

[Farmer77]

8 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

Havn't we been here before ? Trump - or one of his underlings - is about to be charged with something-or-other. But for the most part, it all seems to just peter out ? 

No not really. Theyre being charged and imprisoned and the investigation is still ongoing.  RICO investigations are complex and take time.

[Farmer77]

1 minute ago, RoofGardener said:

Ahhhhh... wait.. I see now. 

This whole thing comes from a single source; the Wall Street Journal. The WSJ claims that their "source" states that there was an investigation going on by the Manhattan attorney general's office.

Every single story on this issue goes back to that single source. There is no independent corroboration. 

What's the betting that this is the last we will hear of the matter ? 

Not anymore. The NYT has corroborated as well. So that makes a left and a right leaning source.

Geeze Roofie this kind of factually dismissive post makes me wonder about you.

 

[RoofGardener]

3 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Not anymore. The NYT has corroborated as well. So that makes a left and a right leaning source.

Geeze Roofie this kind of factually dismissive post makes me wonder about you.

 

Umm... I think you'll find that the NYT story just cites the WSJ ? It's all STILL leading back to that single uncorroborated source ? 

Oh.. and here's ANOTHER thing. The Attorney's office that is  - allegedly - investigating the Trump inauguration is the SAME office that - allegedly - was investigating the National Enquirer bribery angle. 

(see https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/topic/324030-national-enquirer-immunity-deal/)

Methinks the South New York/Manhattan office has a bit of an agenda here ?