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Tsunami In Indonesia

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susieice

It seems Krakatoa erupted and caused an underwater landslide that crossed the Sundra Strait. At least 20 have been killed and 165 injured.

https://nbc25news.com/news/nation-world/at-least-20-killed-165-wounded-after-tsunami-hits-indonesia-12-23-2018?fbclid=IwAR0t8uYqSdXU22JjVwEXP3eWwylg5cHkNgi6HQF6ZhylIe0Ow2QgIJt48Eg

Here's the news on Krakatoa. It's very active right now.

https://www.volcanodiscovery.com/krakatau/news.html

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susieice

This is from the BBC. Krakatoa has been active for the last couple of months. They say the death toll is expected to rise.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-46663158

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Hankenhunter

I thought it was Anak Krakatau? No matter, it's still a huge disaster waiting to happen. Positive thoughts to the poor souls caught in the tsunami.

Hank 

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susieice

It is Anak Krakatoa. Krakatau is also an accepted name. This is a good article. A lot of damage to buildings. News is still breaking. It happened this morning East Coast Time. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robinandrews/2018/12/22/indonesias-krakatoa-just-made-a-deadly-tsunami-heres-everything-you-need-to-know/#e2a0a614c3e9

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Hankenhunter
8 minutes ago, susieice said:

It is Anak Krakatoa. Krakatau is also an accepted name. This is a good article. A lot of damage to buildings. News is still breaking. It happened this morning East Coast Time. 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robinandrews/2018/12/22/indonesias-krakatoa-just-made-a-deadly-tsunami-heres-everything-you-need-to-know/#e2a0a614c3e9

This does not bode well. Anak is one of those kranky explody volcanoes. Not like the pacafistic flows that the Hawaiian Islands are known for. I wonder if this lunar cycle is having an effect on young Anak.  

Hank

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susieice
42 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said:

This does not bode well. Anak is one of those kranky explody volcanoes. Not like the pacafistic flows that the Hawaiian Islands are known for. I wonder if this lunar cycle is having an effect on young Anak.  

Hank

They said it's been having eruptions since summer, but they aren't expecting a cataclysmic blow. Still, it's going to keep affecting the Sundra Strait if it doesn't slow down. The son will eventually explode just like pop did in 1883. I'm wondering if the fault lines have moved. They said there is explosive activity with lava fountains at the summit. Must be a lot of magma coming into the chambers. That's just my guess. They also mentioned pyroclastic flows. That's not good either.

It's been growing at a rate of 22 feet a year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krakatoa

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glorybebe

Those poor people.  I hope a lot of unaccounted are found safe

 

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Likely Guy
56 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said:

This does not bode well. Anak is one of those kranky explody volcanoes. Not like the pacafistic flows that the Hawaiian Islands are known for. I wonder if this lunar cycle is having an effect on young Anak.  

Hank

What?

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seaturtlehorsesnake
35 minutes ago, Likely Guy said:

What?

i don't know if this is what hankenhunter is talking about,, but the bbc article i read has this quote:

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The disaster management agency warned that the death toll is likely to rise further, adding that high seas as a result of the full moon may also have contributed to the strength of the waves.

 

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Imaginarynumber1
1 hour ago, Likely Guy said:

What?

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susieice

The news tonight has the death toll up to 43. It's mentioning that the tsunami was associated with a volcano, but they aren't saying the name. :P

When you say Krakatoa, people get the idea real quick.

Yes, 43 dead 600 injured. It's still expected to rise. Hundreds of buildings were badly damaged or destroyed.

https://www.nst.com.my/world/2018/12/443101/update-sunda-strait-tsunami-death-toll-rises-43-600-injured

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susieice

I saw that many are missing. No mention of how many. This may have been a major eruption. I can't imagine how the people of Java are feeling right now. Anak Krakatoa is a little less than 30 miles off the western coast. Jakarta, the capital, is within sight of it.

https://www.volcanodiscovery.com/krakatau/news/72494/Krakatoa-volcano-Sunda-Strait-Indonesia-possible-major-eruption-with-ash-to-55000-ft-following-deadl.html

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susieice

The Telegraph is reporting 62 dead. One person said 20 are missing, but most are just saying many. They have warned people to stay away from the beaches over the Christmas holiday. Residents were told not to return.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/12/22/indonesia-tsunami-least-20-dead-165-injured-waves-hit-beaches/

 

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Hankenhunter
1 hour ago, seaturtlehorsesnake said:

i don't know if this is what hankenhunter is talking about,, but the bbc article i read has this quote:

 

Thank you, but now that I think of it, I wonder if the moon, and how close it is, would effect an already erupting volcano. It does make the tides after all.

Hank

 

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susieice

San Francisco Chronicle is also reporting 62 dead, 20 missing.

https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/world/article/The-Latest-Man-describes-experience-with-13486658.php

1 minute ago, Hankenhunter said:

Thank you, but now that I think of it, I wonder if the moon, and how close it is, would effect an already erupting volcano. It does make the tides after all.

Hank

 

I'm thinking it may have helped. It seems the eruptions have been going on for awhile. The moon has an effect on the tides, but I don't know about volcanoes.

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joc
4 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said:

Thank you, but now that I think of it, I wonder if the moon, and how close it is, would effect an already erupting volcano. It does make the tides after all.

Hank

 

The Moon plays a very small role in increasing seismicity and volcanic activity on Earth - potentially increasing activity ~1% during full/new moons. The change in the gravitational pull from the Moon during apogee and perigee is small.

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3 minutes ago, joc said:

The Moon plays a very small role in increasing seismicity and volcanic activity on Earth - potentially increasing activity ~1% during full/new moons. The change in the gravitational pull from the Moon during apogee and perigee is small.

 

I thought I read somewhere that without the moon and her tidal effects on the earth and oceans, her core would slow. Then again it could have been one of those nasty disaster movies I've watched. Off to the googles. Brb

Hank

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Hankenhunter

My mistake, its the Earths electromagnetic field that the moon effects.

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susieice

Image result for palu on a map

This map shows Palu, where a 7.5 earthquake and tsunami hit in September, killing hundreds. The Sundra Strait is the small waterway to the southwest of Indonesia. The upper island is Sumatra and the lower on is Java. Is it possible that the plates shifting added more fuel to an already erupting Anak Krakatoa? 

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susieice

This has a little more information. A witness taking photos questioned the odd color of the sea after the tsunami. The band Seventeen has reported 2 dead and 4 members missing. They were washed off the stage,swept along with a lot of the crowd listening to them.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2018/dec/23/indonesia-tsunami-dozens-dead-hundreds-injured-after-anak-krakatoa-erupts

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seanjo
9 hours ago, Hankenhunter said:

This does not bode well. Anak is one of those kranky explody volcanoes. Not like the pacafistic flows that the Hawaiian Islands are known for. I wonder if this lunar cycle is having an effect on young Anak.  

Hank

I'm sure the Moon does affect the tectonic plates etc. but I doubt it has anything to do with this eruption, active Volcano's tend to go off every now and then...pressure relief.

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susieice

OMG :cry: The BBC is now saying 222 deaths and 843 injured. A wave also hit parts of Sumatra. It's shocking to hear this volcano caused this damage. To the best of my knowledge, this is the first time Anak Krakatoa has caused destruction like this and has been in the news. I knew it had been erupting and growing since the early 1900's. I really feel for the people of Indonesia. My thoughts are with them and hope they please, heed the warnings and stay away from vulnerable areas until this passes. 

When you hear that name, you immediately think of the 1883 eruption. Volcanologists don't expect another eruption like that to occur in the near future. If you ask me, this is way bad enough.

 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-46663158

This is confirmed by Asian news. Not all areas have reported in yet so the toll is still expected to rise. They say 28 are still missing.

https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/2179246/least-20-killed-165-wounded-after-tsunami-hits-indonesia

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13 hours ago, Hankenhunter said:

Thank you, but now that I think of it, I wonder if the moon, and how close it is, would effect an already erupting volcano. It does make the tides after all.

Hank

 

They said it might have been an underwater slide that pushed the water onto the beaches so it seems like a high tide would make it worse.  On top of that, they felt no tremor, it was out of blue.  I'm surprised there weren't many more casualties.  

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17 hours ago, Hankenhunter said:

My mistake, its the Earths electromagnetic field that the moon effects.

Hank

The Moon`s gravity effects the earth's mantle as well by lifting it up and even more when Sun/Moon/Earth are on the same line, so you were not that wrong with your opinion because a movement within the earth's mantle might influence and/or trigger volcanic events.

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