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Trump blamed for gov shutdown

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21 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Well I would miss my postman. I don't want my friendly down the street neighbor the ICE officer to lose his house.  I like the Forest Service, air traffic controllers and meat inspectors.  The weather service is nice to have. We may be pulling all of the troops back, but I think we will need to keep a modern effective armed forces.Somebody has to collect all of those tariffs.  I would miss a good portion of them.

None of which are affected by this partial shutdown.  Even those who aren't currently being paid will lose nothing.  Everyone knows this, yet we go through this Sturm and Drang with the media telling the low info types that it's TEOTWAWKI.  

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2 hours ago, Tiggs said:

 

Which History textbook did he use?

I have no idea, Tiggs. I'll ask him next time I see him. 

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6 minutes ago, and then said:

None of which are affected by this partial shutdown.  Even those who aren't currently being paid will lose nothing.  Everyone knows this, yet we go through this Sturm and Drang with the media telling the low info types that it's TEOTWAWKI.  

 

6 minutes ago, and then said:

None of which are affected by this partial shutdown.  Even those who aren't currently being paid will lose nothing.  Everyone knows this, yet we go through this Sturm and Drang with the media telling the low info types that it's TEOTWAWKI.  

Agreed and then.  I was mostly responding to your first comment.  In addition to some that are a waste of our time, there is a core of individuals in federal service that perform diligently, non-politically useful jobs.  At least the ones who have been my neighbors and friends over the years have been admirable people.  Congress, the face of the government that riles us is what, about 4-5000  people including staff out of 2 million?  A small %.  One might argue that there are some useless regulations and inefficiencies, but on the whole, we have a pretty good government service.  Having dealt with or visited several other countries during my engineering duties, I can tell you the US is lily white in honesty and trustworthiness compared to some others like Turkey, Greece, and Indonesia.  Only Japan and Scandinavia  are more straight arrow, and I don't think we would enjoy the regimentation.

I am not all lathered up about this shutdown in particular. but on the whole I have a favorable impression of government workers and don't like to see the stupidity of the Congressional wrangling for every budget.  

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4 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Perhaps you would care to comment on this, AK:

My son told me a few years after he graduated high school what they taught him in US history class. 

Space Exploration:   They were taught the names of the first woman into space and the first African American woman into space.

No mention of Yuri Gagarin, the first *person* in space. No mention of Alan Shepard, the first American *person* in space, and no mention of Neil Armstrong, the first *person* to step foot on the moon.

My son now knows they lied to him in his high school history text and he never told his father of this until after he found this out on his own. He realizes the libs were trying to propagandize him to become somewhat of a woman adorer and to trivialize all men.

My son is a wiser, older person now. And like his father,, he does not like being lied to by so-called "educators".  And to think we pay these people a salary.

Today's teachers have to go strictly by the textbook curriculum given to them as mandated by common core. They can each individually present the information in a slightly different way, but ultimately the information's the same. If you have a problem with the information being presented, then your issue is with the curriculum, not with the individual teachers themselves.

I'm highly skeptical that they wouldn't teach such basic information that you claim they omitted, plus the info they supposedly did teach is indeed valid information that should be presented along with the supposedly omitted parts that you claim.

Essentially, all I can do is take your word for it, which I already don't trust worth a cent. What you conservatives often call a 'liberal agenda' is often times just presenting basic scientific and/or historical facts, like teaching climate science or evolution or sex education, etc. You don't really want educators, you want indoctrinators. 

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5 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Perhaps you would care to comment on this, AK:

My son told me a few years after he graduated high school what they taught him in US history class. 

Space Exploration:   They were taught the names of the first woman into space and the first African American woman into space.

No mention of Yuri Gagarin, the first *person* in space. No mention of Alan Shepard, the first American *person* in space, and no mention of Neil Armstrong, the first *person* to step foot on the moon.

My son now knows they lied to him in his high school history text and he never told his father of this until after he found this out on his own. He realizes the libs were trying to propagandize him to become somewhat of a woman adorer and to trivialize all men.

My son is a wiser, older person now. And like his father,, he does not like being lied to by so-called "educators".  And to think we pay these people a salary.

Meanwhile, in a sensible country education is based on outcomes, not fad or popularist politics. We get told “by the end of year 5, all kids must have done X, Y and Z. How they do X, Y and Z are up to you.”

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5 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Perhaps you would care to comment on this, AK:

My son told me a few years after he graduated high school what they taught him in US history class. 

Space Exploration:   They were taught the names of the first woman into space and the first African American woman into space.

No mention of Yuri Gagarin, the first *person* in space. No mention of Alan Shepard, the first American *person* in space, and no mention of Neil Armstrong, the first *person* to step foot on the moon.

My son now knows they lied to him in his high school history text and he never told his father of this until after he found this out on his own. He realizes the libs were trying to propagandize him to become somewhat of a woman adorer and to trivialize all men.

My son is a wiser, older person now. And like his father,, he does not like being lied to by so-called "educators".  And to think we pay these people a salary.

Or maybe your son takes after his father and only bothered to read half the book. 

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23 hours ago, Lord Harry said:

Gun ownership part and parcel of our God given right to self defense. Our Founding Fathers understood this which is why it is enshrined in the Second Amendment of our Bill of Rights.

This is the Second Amendment: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.".

The purpose of the Amendment was to make sure that Americans could band together to fight off foreign invaders. It was NOT for the self-defense of individuals. We don't need "A well regulated militia" any more. We have the Armed Services.

Why do so many people ignore the first part of the Amendment and pretend it means Americans should be able to walk down the street with a gun? It does not mean that. Also, nowhere does it say that the right to bear arms is "God given".

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13 minutes ago, Blizno said:

This is the Second Amendment: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.".

The purpose of the Amendment was to make sure that Americans could band together to fight off foreign invaders. It was NOT for the self-defense of individuals. We don't need "A well regulated militia" any more. We have the Armed Services.

Why do so many people ignore the first part of the Amendment and pretend it means Americans should be able to walk down the street with a gun? It does not mean that. Also, nowhere does it say that the right to bear arms is "God given".

Actually, it’s not about (or rather, not just) about fighting invaders, but also defending yourself from a government gone completely and utterly Albrect Mach Frie, if you follow my drift. 

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John Bastien
17 hours ago, Hankenhunter said:

Let me guess. You voted for Doug Ford, and belong to the "new" Conservative Party. Second guess would be disgruntled oilpatch worker belonging to the "new Conservative Party.

Hank

Actually I am non political. To me all politicians in the current iterations are bottom feeders. However I do believe in personal responsibility.

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Lord Harry
33 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Actually, it’s not about (or rather, not just) about fighting invaders, but also defending yourself from a government gone completely and utterly Albrect Mach Frie, if you follow my drift. 

One thing you forgot to add, *Snip*.  It is the liberals that are attempting to seize guns away from the people.  Not President Trump and not the rightwing.  But of course you're not going to mention that, are you?

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15 minutes ago, Lord Harry said:

One thing you forgot to add, *Snip*.  It is the liberals that are attempting to seize guns away from the people.  Not President Trump and not the rightwing.  But of course you're not going to mention that, are you?

Bog off Harry.

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16 minutes ago, Lord Harry said:

One thing you forgot to add, *Snip*.  It is the liberals that are attempting to seize guns away from the people.  Not President Trump and not the rightwing.  But of course you're not going to mention that, are you?

Strange how you took an vague example and thought I was referring to your precious God Emperor. 

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4 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Strange how you took an vague example and thought I was referring to your precious God Emperor. 

You are the one, if I recall, who made the ridiculous Trump-Hitler comparison earlier in the thread.  So it is no wonder I assumed that is who you were referring to.

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34 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Actually, it’s not about (or rather, not just) about fighting invaders, but also defending yourself from a government gone completely and utterly Albrect Mach Frie, if you follow my drift. 

BINGO!

Many a socialist regime took guns away from citizens and then started the wilding.  Chavez did this in Venezuela and the people regret it. Criminals pay BIG money for guns on the black market and of course, use their guns to make money. People are afraid for their lives all the time in that country.

Another thing Maduro does is hire these goons on motorcycles to go around and terrorize and SHOOT dissidents. Aren't dictatorships wonderful?

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6 minutes ago, Lord Harry said:

You are the one, if I recall, who made the ridiculous Trump-Hitler comparison earlier in the thread.  So it is no wonder I assumed that is who you were referring to.

Nope. Not me, I refer to him as El Trumpo, implying he’s some sort of ridiculous South American tinpot wannabe.

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John Bastien

Trump as Hitler? LOL The way the left is going trying to crush free speech, disarm people. Net they will take a page from the LEFTIST Stalin and want their death camps.

 

You have no idea what National Socialism is and its philosophy in any depth. As for Fascism that is an Italian political derivative from the party formed bu Mussolini. Which as totally different national/social ethos. So I suggest you know your history a bit more in depth. 

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Lord Harry
3 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

BINGO!

Many a socialist regime took guns away from citizens and then started the wilding.  Chavez did this in Venezuela and the people regret it. Criminals pay BIG money for guns on the black market and of course, use their guns to make money. People are afraid for their lives all the time in that country.

Another thing Maduro does is hire these goons on motorcycles to go around and terrorize and SHOOT dissidents. Aren't dictatorships wonderful?

Precisely.  And that was certainly at the top of President Obama's agenda.  Had Clinton been elected instead of Trump, we could have expected much more gun control legislation. 

And speaking of the Socialist Paradise of Venezuela, it actually has one of the highest murder rates in the Western Hemisphere.  Right up there with Haiti.  And this in spite of a nation wide gun ban.

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Lord Harry
1 hour ago, Blizno said:

This is the Second Amendment: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.".

The purpose of the Amendment was to make sure that Americans could band together to fight off foreign invaders. It was NOT for the self-defense of individuals. We don't need "A well regulated militia" any more. We have the Armed Services.

Why do so many people ignore the first part of the Amendment and pretend it means Americans should be able to walk down the street with a gun? It does not mean that. Also, nowhere does it say that the right to bear arms is "God given".

Up until 1968, there was hardly any gun control legislation in this country.  The courts and politicians almost always took for granted that the Second Amendment guaranteed a right to self defense. 

And the fact that self defense is a God given right is self evident.  As the defense of self, family, and property is as natural as breathing air or drinking water.  It is hardwired into us as human beings.  That alone reveals it to be a God given right.

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John Bastien

Some how "The Art of The Deal" does not have the same reading flavor as "Mein Kampf." LOL 

 

The only real DEATH SQUADS on US territory were the KKK. Which in fact was formed by the Democratic party to keep the black population down.  In fact the Democratic party has done more real evil to people in the course of racial suppression in history on this continent. Every "Jim Crow state in the inception was controlled by Democrats. Slave states the same. History hurts. The vast majority of black community hell holes are governed by Democrats. The wonderful People's Republic of Detroit is a glowing example of progressive policy. in action LOL

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John Bastien

Seems these two groups love dressing in black. They also like beating old people in the streets too.

Image result for antifa italian fascists uniform comparison

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Sir Wearer of Hats
5 minutes ago, John Bastien said:

Seems these two groups love dressing in black. They also like beating old people in the streets too.

Image result for antifa italian fascists uniform comparison

The only time you should be wearing black and a gas mask is if you’re a techno-goth.

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John Bastien

The solution to problems is practicality and sound policy. The problem with the internet, people mainly bullhorn from their little bubbles. 

I may be a bit conservative in my views but also a pragmatist. A couple of examples.

 

A young girl hooked on drugs by a pimp is thrown in jail for simple possession. Why are my tax dollars spent jailing the person than put right into treatment? Which is cheaper than jail and has a better payoff.

Why is my prison system being used as a dumping ground for the mentally ill at a higher cost making people worse?

 

As you get a grip on the drug problem a great balance of the crime problem will go by the wayside. In fact a registered addict program trialed in one Scottish city dropped the crime rate 80%. Think of the savings in dollars alone. It also killed the infection from drug use and STDs as girls did not have to turn tricks to support their habit.

 

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Aquila King
36 minutes ago, John Bastien said:

Seems these two groups love dressing in black. They also like beating old people in the streets too.

Image result for antifa italian fascists uniform comparison

Let me get this straight... So the Nazis kill millions whereas Antifa has so far killed no one, and you think they're the same thing cause they both where black?... :huh:

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Earl.Of.Trumps

Antifa SUCKS.

Any piece of crap bunch of goons that wants to threaten everyone's right to free speech deserves PRISON. They're Nazis in the making

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John Bastien
4 minutes ago, Aquila King said:

Let me get this straight... So the Nazis kill millions whereas Antifa has so far killed no one, and you think they're the same thing cause they both where black?... :huh:

They behave the same as in the street battles of the 20's and 30's.

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