zep73 Posted December 30, 2018 #26 Share Posted December 30, 2018 24 minutes ago, acute said: Knowledge isn't proof. Science comes from latin 'scientia', meaning: Knowledge. Science (and therefore knowledge) is evidence based. So unless this is about splitting hairs, knowledge is proof. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted December 30, 2018 #27 Share Posted December 30, 2018 38 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: Do you have knowledge of the existence of the city of Los Angeles? Don't be silly. It's all a hologram. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space Commander Travis Posted December 30, 2018 #28 Share Posted December 30, 2018 30 minutes ago, Scudbuster said: Well, we know that multi thousands of people are (and have been ) employed at Northrup Grumman, the Lockheed Skunk Works, General Dynamics etc - and you never hear anything about them. They now sign non disclosure agreements that spell out the heavy consequences of yapping about anything. the point though is that this, if it existed, would be old technology by now. Certainly, the F-15 and F-16 (not to mention the C-130) have been around for a lot longer, but they're conventional aircraft that have been steadily updated. There's nothing that gets outdated so quickly as cutting edge technology. The Tr-3B would have probably been superseded by a second or third generation replacement by now, and the earlier versions would surely be public knowledge by now, like with the F-117. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted December 30, 2018 #29 Share Posted December 30, 2018 (edited) where is the vid this thread is about? Edited December 30, 2018 by Dejarma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted December 31, 2018 Author #30 Share Posted December 31, 2018 11 hours ago, Dejarma said: where is the vid this thread is about? It got blocked when I tired posting it. You might try looking in Drudge.com where I found it. If it's off the main page the have archives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer77 Posted December 31, 2018 #31 Share Posted December 31, 2018 17 hours ago, sci-nerd said: Why on earth would anyone think they are alien??! This is the first ive heard the term TR-3B and I have heard sighting reports that differed from mine but I thought the black triangle I saw was of alien origin because it was completely silent, massive, and went from hovering to close to mach in a fraction of a second. The F-22's that followed it across the horizon, and back, did make me wonder if they were chasing it or drilling with it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted December 31, 2018 Author #32 Share Posted December 31, 2018 4 hours ago, Farmer77 said: This is the first ive heard the term TR-3B and I have heard sighting reports that differed from mine but I thought the black triangle I saw was of alien origin because it was completely silent, massive, and went from hovering to close to mach in a fraction of a second. The F-22's that followed it across the horizon, and back, did make me wonder if they were chasing it or drilling with it though. That activity is seen quite a bit, and I know of one case like that in Israel, so I kinda' think it's a case of "escorting" the triangle craft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robotic Jew Posted December 31, 2018 #33 Share Posted December 31, 2018 30 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: That activity is seen quite a bit, and I know of one case like that in Israel, so I kinda' think it's a case of "escorting" the triangle craft. Wouldn't this point to the craft just being a military project? Why would an alien spaceship need an escort? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Krupe Posted December 31, 2018 #34 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) I'd take the linked story in the OP with a grain of salt--for one thing, Toledo Ohio isn't "just a few miles" from Wright Pat AFB (look on Google maps). It's more like 150+ miles. If the writer can't be bothered to check that minor fact, what else is he missing? Second, others in this thread who talk about secrecy (Vlad the Mighty for one) are correct. However, I'm of the opinion that the "object" in question need not necessarily be secret, but the technology involved certainly would be. One example would be the X programs (example: the X-43 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_X-43). Third, you have to ask yourself, what is the purpose of these triangular shaped craft? Surveillance? There are far more covert ways of that. Research? Possibly. Personally, I don't think they exist. And if they do, they are not of alien origin. It would be human technology, and you can bet your last dollar that if we (Americans) had the technology, especially if it's over 30 years old, industrial espionage and government spies would make sure they (whoever "they" are--Russia, China, North Korea...hell, Zimbabwe for that matter) would have something like it too. Just like the anti-gravity discussion, the fact that it's not in common use by now tells us something. Edited December 31, 2018 by Leo Krupe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted December 31, 2018 Author #35 Share Posted December 31, 2018 46 minutes ago, Robotic Jew said: Wouldn't this point to the craft just being a military project? Why would an alien spaceship need an escort? You got me! I suspect, of course, military secret project. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted December 31, 2018 #36 Share Posted December 31, 2018 23 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: Well, sci-nerd, I personally don't think it is alien but it could be designed with techno retro-engineered from alien craft https://cdn.images.*** blocked ***/img/dynamic/80/750x445/1064489.jpg Finally, you show your hand in another thread. Well done. I had a sneaking suspicion that was what you were ultimately arguing for over there. "Excellent, everything is proceeding as I have foreseen." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted December 31, 2018 Author #37 Share Posted December 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, Trelane said: Finally, you show your hand in another thread. Well done. I had a sneaking suspicion that was what you were ultimately arguing for over there. "Excellent, everything is proceeding as I have foreseen." Not sure what you mean, Trelane. Two different cases, two different opinions. If you think that everything I see in the sky as an alien spaceship,, you should rethink your thinking. BTW, I never once said that the Roswell disk was Alien. I have been very careful to quote people saying "disk". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted December 31, 2018 #38 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: BTW, I never once said that the Roswell disk was Alien. I have been very careful to quote people saying "disk". you don't need to actually say it.... so the disk is man made in origin then? Edited December 31, 2018 by Dejarma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted December 31, 2018 Author #39 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dejarma said: you don't need to actually say it.... so the disk is man made in origin then? Oh, Dejarma! How would I know? All I do is see the same evidences you and Trelane have looked at. We arrive at different conclusions. Just because I think the statements made by hands-on eyewitnesses implies a "Disk" was recovered does not at all mean that I know everything about this disk. In fact, on the contrary, there is little I have seen that can shed light on it one way or the other. It's pure speculation. But it is a "disk" :--) PS: Dejarma, that link of the vid is in Drudgereport.com, not Drudge.com as I said earlier Edited December 31, 2018 by Earl.Of.Trumps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted December 31, 2018 #40 Share Posted December 31, 2018 5 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: Not sure what you mean, Trelane. Two different cases, two different opinions. If you think that everything I see in the sky as an alien spaceship,, you should rethink your thinking. BTW, I never once said that the Roswell disk was Alien. I have been very careful to quote people saying "disk". Ok, I'll just accept you at your word. Very slippery of you though. You came very close to arguing in favor a few times there. When pushed by other posters you retreated into semantics. Sort of what you seem to be doing here. Anyways, I look forward to who proposes the event where the US government and military came into possession of possible alien technology. Hope you have a wonderful New Year's Eve. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted January 1, 2019 #41 Share Posted January 1, 2019 2 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: All I do is see the same evidences you and Trelane have looked at. We arrive at different conclusions. yeah we do= so what is the conclusion you've arrived at!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted January 1, 2019 Author #42 Share Posted January 1, 2019 8 hours ago, Dejarma said: yeah we do= so what is the conclusion you've arrived at!? they found a disk. Ramey covered it up. simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted January 1, 2019 #43 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: they found a disk. Ramey covered it up. simple. no disk... but if there was: <a disk created by humans or by aliens>? whatever it was i say: <created by humans> for whatever purpose... what do you say? come on, grow some balls mate because you've become very tedious.. or is tedium your goal here? Edited January 1, 2019 by Dejarma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted January 1, 2019 Author #44 Share Posted January 1, 2019 11 minutes ago, Dejarma said: no disk... but if there was: <a disk created by humans or by aliens>? whatever it was i say: <created by humans> for whatever purpose... what do you say? come on, grow some balls mate because you've become very tedious.. or is tedium your goal here? I'm transferring this question to the Roswell thread. See you there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nnicolette Posted January 1, 2019 #45 Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) On 12/30/2018 at 9:04 AM, Earl.Of.Trumps said: Rise in Mysterious TR-3B UFO Sightings THERE has been a shocking rise in alleged TR-3B triangular UFO sightings across the world - with the most recent footage showing the bizarre aircraft close to a US airbase in Ohio. - near Wright-Paterson Air Force Base I saw a boomerang shaped craft fly over my sisters house not too long ago. It was white or silver with red markings. It seems to be a common flight path between two bases ive seen a huge variety of aircraft fly over there. This was in the afternoon so the triangles must not be as much of a secret anymore. Edit: i just read some of the last posts and the one i saw was definitely man made. I looked up the description and found pictures of it, a supposedly top secret new military aircraft. I know the topic was triangles but im sure if they have that boomerang a triangle would be no problem. Edited January 1, 2019 by Nnicolette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted January 2, 2019 #46 Share Posted January 2, 2019 This is an interesting topic for sure. The assertion that posters have of the next gen aircraft are not too far off the mark. As was the case with the Blackbird, the successor to the F-117 was well under development when the Nighthawk was unveiled to the general public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted January 2, 2019 Author #47 Share Posted January 2, 2019 36 minutes ago, Trelane said: This is an interesting topic for sure. The assertion that posters have of the next gen aircraft are not too far off the mark. As was the case with the Blackbird, the successor to the F-117 was well under development when the Nighthawk was unveiled to the general public. Wasn't the Blackbird superseded by the Aurora? I think so. but it's still somewhat of a secret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted January 2, 2019 #48 Share Posted January 2, 2019 22 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: Wasn't the Blackbird superseded by the Aurora? I think so. but it's still somewhat of a secret. Almost all of the projects the Air Force and their subcontractors has been classified at some level. Some projects are still highly classified even after several decades. This even includes equipment that has never been fielded or seen to completion. I have no idea what the Aurora is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Earl.Of.Trumps Posted January 2, 2019 Author #49 Share Posted January 2, 2019 13 minutes ago, Trelane said: Almost all of the projects the Air Force and their subcontractors has been classified at some level. Some projects are still highly classified even after several decades. This even includes equipment that has never been fielded or seen to completion. I have no idea what the Aurora is. SR-71 Blackbird Info. The SR-71 served with the U.S. Air Force from 1964 to 1998. A total of 32 aircraft were built; Here's why it was phased out. The Aurora is not anything the US AF will admit exists. But it does :--) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane Posted January 2, 2019 #50 Share Posted January 2, 2019 12 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said: SR-71 Blackbird Info. The SR-71 served with the U.S. Air Force from 1964 to 1998. A total of 32 aircraft were built; Here's why it was phased out. The Aurora is not anything the US AF will admit exists. But it does :--) I'm aware what the 71 is/was. The Aurora as it's been called is a whole different item. Again, I have no idea what that is. *cough*cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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