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Alexandria Ocasio Cortez - HUGE SCANDAL!!!!

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bee
7 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

IMHO she's not doing badly for a barista.  I like how she's, apparently, stirred things up for the normally monolithic Democrat party under Pelosi.

 

Yes the 'Justice Democrats' plan to oust all the old school democrats and while  republicans
might be enjoying this at the moment.... they had better keep up with what's happening...
or they will be going down and ousted as well (see video that F3SS posted)....

 

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8 minutes ago, bee said:

 

Yes the 'Justice Democrats' plan to oust all the old school democrats and while  republicans
might be enjoying this at the moment.... they had better keep up with what's happening...
or they will be going down and ousted as well (see video that F3SS posted)....

 

Considering that the Democrats are supported, at least in part, by old Jewish money, I can't see a total takeover. At best (for Democrats) I see the huge party lunging left. At worst, I see the Democrats being divided into two weaker parties.

Right after the 2016 election the media made a big deal about how moderate most of the new Democrats were. Because most were from previously Republican districts, and so had to be moderate, or the Rs would have held that seat. Now the media is trying to play it like the election was a liberal landslide.

Unless the Dems move more toward center.... Trump will win again in 2020. But right now it appears the candidates are playing to the far left, because they believe their moderates will not flip. This is near on the same playbook Clinton ran, which lost in 2016.

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Just now, DieChecker said:

Unless the Dems move more toward center.... Trump will win again in 2020. But right now it appears the candidates are playing to the far left, because they believe their moderates will not flip. This is near on the same playbook Clinton ran, which lost in 2016.

I think its closer to the Trump playbook of 2016. Except the dems dont have to lie in order to make the Trump regime seem extreme.

We had 8 years of a true moderate and the electorate swung hard to the right. After 4 years of ...man I dont even know what to call it, its not conservativism  its basically a cult with neo fascist tendencies....its a pretty safe bet the nation will swing to the left. Honestly if I wasnt scared to death of what the conman is doing to our nation I would knda want 4 more years of him to ensure that swing was extreme.

 

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24 minutes ago, DieChecker said:

Considering that the Democrats are supported, at least in part, by old Jewish money, I can't see a total takeover. At best (for Democrats) I see the huge party lunging left. At worst, I see the Democrats being divided into two weaker parties.

Right after the 2016 election the media made a big deal about how moderate most of the new Democrats were. Because most were from previously Republican districts, and so had to be moderate, or the Rs would have held that seat. Now the media is trying to play it like the election was a liberal landslide.

Unless the Dems move more toward center.... Trump will win again in 2020. But right now it appears the candidates are playing to the far left, because they believe their moderates will not flip. This is near on the same playbook Clinton ran, which lost in 2016.

 

I appreciate your analysis.....

As you know I'm not  American but I just had a Light Bulb Moment watching F3SS's video...
regarding the in depth look what is going on in US politics...and OAC... and the basic revelation can be extended to understand more about what's going on globally...

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Tatetopa
9 hours ago, bee said:

That's right.... she's not playing THEIR game - she's playing someone else's game

(see the video that F3SS posted)

 

I watched part of that video bee.  Thanks.

It is a really funny thing this.  One of the major reasons Donald Trump appealed to people was that he was an outsider who promised to drain the swamp and shake things up.  People were ready for that and wanted to get rid of some of the entrenched corruption.  Now somebody else comes along who is new, wants to shake things up, wants to get rid of corruption, and the right (or is it really just a front for the elitist deep state in fear of losing power?) has to come out with a conspiracy theory that she is working for some shadowy organization.

You can laugh at all of the claims that Trump colluded with the Russians, and be certain it is total fabrication, but you bite on this silly  piece of media manipulation?  Are you really sure it doesn't come from the elitist deep state?  The same enemies you think are attacking Trump?  Come on.

You don't like the Green New Deal?  Fine.  Its just part of the Art of the Deal.  People asking for things they will not get in order to compromise and get part way there.  Look at the wall for pity's sake.  It was going to be a big beautiful concrete wall 30 feet tall from coast to coast  wit solar panels and one gate.  Now it will be a few hundred miles of vehicle and pedestrian barriers in critical areas and the President will claim a victory, and all of his supporters will cheer.

I don't agree with everything about her, but I want new representatives every two years if we could do that.  Democrat or Republican, we need new blood to break the millionaire's circle and keep more ticks from burrowing in.  Have you noticed that in addition to the good ole boys in the Republican party she is making the good ole guys and gals in the Democratic party nervous too?  

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Tatetopa
9 hours ago, bee said:

Yes the 'Justice Democrats' plan to oust all the old school democrats and while  republicans
might be enjoying this at the moment.... they had better keep up with what's happening...
or they will be going down and ousted as well (see video that F3SS posted)....

 

Yes indeed as they should be.  Out with the old in with the new.

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Katniss
3 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

I watched part of that video bee.  Thanks.

It is a really funny thing this.  One of the major reasons Donald Trump appealed to people was that he was an outsider who promised to drain the swamp and shake things up.  People were ready for that and wanted to get rid of some of the entrenched corruption.  Now somebody else comes along who is new, wants to shake things up, wants to get rid of corruption, and the right (or is it really just a front for the elitist deep state in fear of losing power?) has to come out with a conspiracy theory that she is working for some shadowy organization.

You can laugh at all of the claims that Trump colluded with the Russians, and be certain it is total fabrication, but you bite on this silly  piece of media manipulation?  Are you really sure it doesn't come from the elitist deep state?  The same enemies you think are attacking Trump?  Come on.

You don't like the Green New Deal?  Fine.  Its just part of the Art of the Deal.  People asking for things they will not get in order to compromise and get part way there.  Look at the wall for pity's sake.  It was going to be a big beautiful concrete wall 30 feet tall from coast to coast  wit solar panels and one gate.  Now it will be a few hundred miles of vehicle and pedestrian barriers in critical areas and the President will claim a victory, and all of his supporters will cheer.

I don't agree with everything about her, but I want new representatives every two years if we could do that.  Democrat or Republican, we need new blood to break the millionaire's circle and keep more ticks from burrowing in.  Have you noticed that in addition to the good ole boys in the Republican party she is making the good ole guys and gals in the Democratic party nervous too?  

I watched the Young Turks many times in the past, they have been frustrated with the democratic party for not taking politics far left enough from their point of view. So there probably is some element of truth in his main message about that whole group wanting to take over the democratic party. I've even heard the Turks say many times they wanted the democratic party to be taken over by progressives. But even so, they got a long way to go with the Independent and moderate voters who make up most of the voters here in the U.S., who don't like capitalism to go unchecked, yet don't like too much socialism either.

But the important thing to note about this vid is, it's designed as a wake up call to most conservatives and even some independents or moderates to put fear and paranoia in their minds. Like it's a warning - if we don't do something about this soon, they'll take over the whole country! So beware of the political game they are playing! So the vid is designed to get their attention mostly and put worry in their minds, with the off chance more people will get out and vote conservatively.

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Farmer77
1 hour ago, aztek said:

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Gotta be honest this made me do some deep dive reading to fully understand the history. Considering that the death toll and conditions under British rule were what were lead him to work with the axis I think this is one that is a little too complex for a simple instagram post.

 

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Sir Wearer of Hats
18 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Gotta be honest this made me do some deep dive reading to fully understand the history. Considering that the death toll and conditions under British rule were what were lead him to work with the axis I think this is one that is a little too complex for a simple instagram post.

 

Nah, it really isn’t. Anyone who chose to be allied with Nazis is a ****. There are very few things in life clearer cut than that. 

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Farmer77
1 minute ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

Nah, it really isn’t. Anyone who chose to be allied with Nazis is a ****. There are very few things in life clearer cut than that. 

Some estimate 35 million Indians dead under British rule.  Its not as clear as you'd like it to be.

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Sir Wearer of Hats
2 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Some estimate 35 million Indians dead under British rule.  Its not as clear as you'd like it to be.

And the British attempted Genocide here in Australia, we still became a Federated part of the Commonwealth without violence. 

It really is. You don’t serve Satan because the King is cruel.

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Just now, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

And the British attempted Genocide here in Australia, we still became a Federated part of the Commonwealth without violence. 

It really is. You don’t serve Satan because the King is cruel.

Yeah we have the advantage of time and distance to make that distinction.

I have no doubt what decision I would have made in the moment though, side with those actively killing my people,. or side with those fighting those actively killing my people?

Pretty sure its a no brainer for most folks.

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Sir Wearer of Hats
Just now, Farmer77 said:

Yeah we have the advantage of time and distance to make that distinction.

I have no doubt what decision I would have made in the moment though, side with those actively killing my people,. or side with those fighting those actively killing my people?

Pretty sure its a no brainer for most folks.

Yes, and using that time and distance, I’m calling anyone who willing sided with the Nazis ****s. So chappy in question might have thought he was doing the right thing, he might have thought he’s somehow get freedom for his people by siding with stunningly racist lunatics but we here in the 21st century can look back and say things like “steady on, that’s not the right sort of message to be sending for a politician in America”. It’s called perspective. He might have thought he was right, we know he was wrong. 

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Just now, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

He might have thought he was right, we know he was wrong. 

Yeah I just cant agree with you on that. 

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Sir Wearer of Hats
11 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Yeah I just cant agree with you on that. 

You don’t think it was wrong to ally with Nazis? Because that’s explicitly what I’m saying, that with the benefit of hindsight we know he was wrong to ally with Nazis and later Japan.

sure, he might not have know how evil they were. We sure as **** do. We can sit here in our comfy chairs and the 21st century and say “it was wrong of him to ally with the Nazis, no matter what his higher ideals were”. 

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2 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

You don’t think it was wrong to ally with Nazis? Because that’s explicitly what I’m saying, that with the benefit of hindsight we know he was wrong to ally with Nazis and later Japan.

sure, he might not have know how evil they were. We sure as **** do. We can sit here in our comfy chairs and the 21st century and say “it was wrong of him to ally with the Nazis, no matter what his higher ideals were”. 

 Yes and no. The dude was a freedom fighter for a suffering people. From his perspective the British were the proverbial Nazis, not in a hyperbolic way, but in a real destroy your culture kill millions kind of way.

Without having Indian ancestry this guy isnt someone I would have chosen as a hero and I just for personal curiosity I would like to know what he knew of the Nazis and Japanese at the time he chose to align with them. However I can personally understand why someone of Indian descent would hold this guy up as a hero.

IDK if its something in American blood or if its because I was raised by survivalist militia types but I feel deep empathy to the whole oppressed by invaders thing.

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By the time he allied with the Germans, word had gotten out about The Camps and what the Nazis were doing. He still chose to ally with them. Anyone who sees that as something worth allying with is .... you guessed it .... a ****. I will call him a desperate **** if that makes you feel better Farmer. 

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2 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

By the time he allied with the Germans, word had gotten out about The Camps and what the Nazis were doing. He still chose to ally with them. Anyone who sees that as something worth allying with is .... you guessed it .... a ****. I will call him a desperate **** if that makes you feel better Farmer. 

From his perspective why were the Nazis worse than the British?  You're asking a man to choose a theoretical threat over an actual one and then judging him for siding with the one not actively killing his people.

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1 minute ago, Farmer77 said:

From his perspective why were the Nazis worse than the British?  You're asking a man to choose a theoretical threat over an actual one and then judging him for siding with the one not actively killing his people.

I’m saying his choice was his, and motivated by his desires. I’m saying that he chose the wrong side. That that choice marks him as precisely the wrong sort of person to hold in any sense of admiration. I’m also saying that as he allied with Nazis, for anyone in the 21st century to hold up as an icon is intensely blind to history and insensitive to the suffering the Nazis were party to.

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The British Empire was uncaring, unsubtle and often cruel. The Belgian Empire, apropos of history was genocidal. The Nazis by 1942 has shown their true colours and were demonstrably worse than the British. 

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DieChecker

Did anyone talk to this AOC advisor?

Seems likely to me that idiot dude probably saw the shirt at goodwill, iked how it looked, bought it and wore it.

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13 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

You can laugh at all of the claims that Trump colluded with the Russians, and be certain it is total fabrication, but you bite on this silly  piece of media manipulation?  Are you really sure it doesn't come from the elitist deep state?  The same enemies you think are attacking Trump?  Come on.

 

when the '''Deep State'''' globalists and their Goebbels like press turn on Ocasio Cortez and the Justice Democrats...
you might have a point... (Fox can  be viewed as the exception that proves the rule - )

my guess is the corporate democrats are trying to bring the progressives into the fold
without alienating the moderate voters..

I don't live in the US... HAS the MSM turned against them and given them the kind of treatment that Trump gets..?

You said you hadn't watched all the video... so I don't think you are getting it or don't want to...

As soon as AOC hit the limelight I felt the she was being groomed for power - along the same lines that
Obama, Macron, Trudeau (and maybe even Tony Blair)  was... I just hadn't realised how far the extent of the blatant 
political power grab that was going on right under everyone's noses.... with links to nazi and communist ideologies...
had gone.. 
 

The video we are talking about laid it out clearly but it wasn't made up stuff or a conspiracy - people were
openly admitting what was going on... without actually revealing the now revealed......'synthesis between
National Socialism (Nazism and communism) '..... they are planning a modern version of course but it can
go just as pear shaped just as quickly ---- 

 

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Farmer77
2 minutes ago, bee said:

I don't live in the US... HAS the MSM turned against them and given them the kind of treatment that Trump gets..?

So you know what kind of treatment Trump gets in America but not what kind AOC gets because you dont live in America?  hmmmm why doesnt that quite add up?

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10 hours ago, Katniss said:

I watched the Young Turks many times in the past, they have been frustrated with the democratic party for not taking politics far left enough from their point of view. So there probably is some element of truth in his main message about that whole group wanting to take over the democratic party. I've even heard the Turks say many times they wanted the democratic party to be taken over by progressives. But even so, they got a long way to go with the Independent and moderate voters who make up most of the voters here in the U.S., who don't like capitalism to go unchecked, yet don't like too much socialism either.

But the important thing to note about this vid is, it's designed as a wake up call to most conservatives and even some independents or moderates to put fear and paranoia in their minds. Like it's a warning - if we don't do something about this soon, they'll take over the whole country! So beware of the political game they are playing! So the vid is designed to get their attention mostly and put worry in their minds, with the off chance more people will get out and vote conservatively.

bolded above...

I think you are right.... but..... because the two party system is in operation... who do they vote for if they don't
like the candidate that the democrats put up...?

I think they will still be tempted to give the democrat their vote no matter who they are especially when the
opposition is so thoroughly demonized ... which is probably an aspect of the 'plot' to demonize Trump...

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