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President Trump Addresses the Nation [VIDEO]

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RavenHawk
1 hour ago, Captain Risky said:

Obviously you saw a different speech to the one posted.

This is the one I saw:

I saw carefully crafted fearmongering dressed up as an a presidential vote for Trump informercial.

You saw what you wanted to see.  Not what was actually presented.  Well ahead of the speech, the MSM was putting the idea in the brains of its sheeple that Trump was going to be lying and then they were going to have their fact checkers ready to go.  For the most part, they had very little to do.

 

Don’t get me wrong, he makes a persuasive argument but only buy using fear as the common denominator.

He doesn't use fear.  He uses facts.  The only ones that were fearful were the Progs.  They are afraid of Trump because he will get things done.

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Farmer77
Just now, RavenHawk said:

He doesn't use fear.  He uses facts. 

Thats just straight denial right there ^^:lol:

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Farmer77
3 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

Well ahead of the speech, the MSM was putting the idea in the brains of its sheeple that Trump was going to be lying and then they were going to have their fact checkers ready to go.  For the most part, they had very little to do.

Dude even his own propaganda network called him out on his falsehoods

Trump Gets Instant Fact-Check From Fox News' Shepard Smith After Oval Office Speech

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One big question heading into Tuesday night’s big Oval Office address from President Trump was how much fact-checking would be done by the various networks. And on Fox, anchor Shepard Smith did not let the president get away with his lies.

Immediately following Trump’s approximately 10-minute speech, Smith broke down a “number of claims” that were deliberately misleading. While Trump issued scary warnings about murders by immigrants, Smith said, “Statistics show that there is less violent crime by the undocumented immigrant population than by the general population.”

In response to Trump claiming his wall would stop drug trafficking across the border, Smith said, “Government statistics show much of the heroin actually comes not over the unguarded border but through ports of call.”

The anchor also informed viewers that the number of illegal border crossings has been going “steadily down over the past 10 years” despite Trump’s assertion that they are on the rise and the government reports that “there is more outward traffic than inward traffic.”

His speech was like 9 minutes long :lol:

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Captain Risky
36 minutes ago, F3SS said:

It's not fearmongering. These are serious things and much of it involves violence and death. How does one address it in calmer and less graphic way than Trump did last night without completely avoiding it like in the rebuttal?

Well he could have been balanced and mentioned the excellent contributions that some illegal immigrants have made. He could have mentioned that a lot of the military men and women are also illegal immigrants serving to gain citizenship etc. Just saying it’s a pity that Trump only has two gears in his political repertoire, forward and fast forward. 

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Captain Risky
1 minute ago, Farmer77 said:

Dude even his own propaganda network called him out on his falsehoods

Trump Gets Instant Fact-Check From Fox News' Shepard Smith After Oval Office Speech

His speech was like 9 minutes long :lol:

Man I wonder how VP Pense stayed awake.

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RavenHawk
11 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Youre right rather rude of me. If the legal ports of entry are blocked they'll go elsewhere. Most likely they'll tunnel under the wall, to which you will say "We'll have seismic sensors" to which ill say "if there are seismic sensors whats the need to spend 5 bil on a wall?"

If there is a wall.  But you are right.  It forces them to exert themselves only to end getting caught.  Others will see the futility and think better of attempting to come themselves.  The wall increases the chances that they fail.  A wall is a great deterrent.

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aztek
1 hour ago, Aquila King said:

:mellow: I sincerely hope you all live long enough to see your bigoted ideology ostracized by society in the same way Nazism is today...

says a child who makes fun of disabled people in his status,  yes i have seen it, and i was the one who reported it.  

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Captain Risky
5 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

He doesn't use fear.  He uses facts.  The only ones that were fearful were the Progs.  They are afraid of Trump because he will get things done.

Well if he gets it built I hope he uses American steel and not Chinese steel like he did on Trump Towers. 

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Farmer77
Just now, RavenHawk said:

If there is a wall.  But you are right.  It forces them to exert themselves only to end getting caught.  Others will see the futility and think better of attempting to come themselves.  The wall increases the chances that they fail.  A wall is a great deterrent.

Damn Kellyanne is that you??

That was some top notch politicking you just did right there. Completely blew over the subject and rolled right into sloganeering :lol:

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Farmer77
Just now, RavenHawk said:

Sigh.....yeah another idiot coined a term. Is he also stalking freshmen dem senators? That seems to be all the rage as well.

The reality is the southern border is not a national security crisis in fact its less of a concern than ever before. The reality is illegal immigration is down and has been trending down for a very long time. The reality is the vast majority of illegal immigrants enter this nation through airports. Facts are stubborn things.

Government shutdown: Is there a crisis on the US-Mexico border?

 

 

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Aquila King
16 minutes ago, aztek said:

says a child who makes fun of disabled people in his status,  yes i have seen it, and i was the one who reported it.  

Well that's one mystery solved. :lol:

Also, that was an innocent joke told by a professional comedy group on YouTube that had literally thousands praising it in the comments section. It had absolutely nothing to do with mocking the disabled.

So sorry that it triggered you so. Hope me deleting it gave you a good safe space.

Hilarious that you think so given that you support a man who actually mocked the disabled. Nice double standard there buddy. :tu:

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RavenHawk
9 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Dude even his own propaganda network called him out on his falsehoods

Shepard Smith is hardly “The Network”.  I do believe he is one of the token Never-Trumpers.

 

While Trump issued scary warnings about murders by immigrants, Smith said, “Statistics show that there is less violent crime by the undocumented immigrant population than by the general population.”

This is the typical Prog disinformation initiative.  For now there are still fewer undocumented immigrants than there are citizens, therefore, there would be less crime, DOH!  But it is still substantial.  By removing this problem will reduce crime significantly.  Don’t you think?

 

“Government statistics show much of the heroin actually comes not over the unguarded border but through ports of call.”

He did imply it.  But you haven’t tried to follow some of my past posts on this.  If we become better at interdicting drugs at Ports of Entry, guess what.  They will just move across more remote areas of the border.  Pretty much as they do now.  Double DOH!!

 

The anchor also informed viewers that the number of illegal border crossings has been going “steadily down over the past 10 years” despite Trump’s assertion that they are on the rise and the government reports that “there is more outward traffic than inward traffic.”

But still in the hundreds of thousands.  And again, by not building the wall sends the message that the border is open and that will encourage more to cross in the days, months, years to come.  Triple DOH!!!

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Farmer77
Just now, RavenHawk said:

This is the typical Prog disinformation initiative.  For now there are still fewer undocumented immigrants than there are citizens, therefore, there would be less crime, DOH! 

Statistically speaking as in per capita immigrants commit less crime than citizens. Im hoping you are aware that is fact and just playing coy here.

1 minute ago, RavenHawk said:

He did imply it.  But you haven’t tried to follow some of my past posts on this.  If we become better at interdicting drugs at Ports of Entry, guess what.  They will just move across more remote areas of the border.  Pretty much as they do now.  Double DOH!!

Right and as we already discussed any areas with a wall will need technological surveillance which means the wall is unnecessary.

2 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

But still in the hundreds of thousands.  And again, by not building the wall sends the message that the border is open and that will encourage more to cross in the days, months, years to come.  Triple DOH!!!

Not building the wall sends a message that the border is open? ........OK , whatever you say chief :tu:

Oh and yes it is in the hundreds of thousands which is down from millions a decade ago. Somehow our republic survived back then when the fake "crisis" was literally 4 times worse than it is now and yet Trump and his sycophants want us to believe its now a crisis worth shutting down the government over? Comeon man you cant expect normal functioning, non racist,  human beings to take that crap seriously.

 

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docyabut2

God bless Trump and his protection of our country . that wall is the most  protection

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aztek
27 minutes ago, Aquila King said:

Well that's one mystery solved. :lol:

 

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what was the mystery? that you are hypocritical arrogant shthead? it was always obvious to everyone, i hope you appreciate the humor here, lol

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docyabut2

Good luck to all and hope you all don't have to experience its lost  :(

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Captain Risky
38 minutes ago, docyabut2 said:

God bless Trump and his protection of our country . that wall is the most  protection

You know docuy the ‘most protective’ wall would be covering it with a prophylactic condom but that would add billions more to the cost of the wall. Not to mention how hard it would be to get support and funding from the Christian Right of which VP Pense is a spokesperson for. 

Political suicide for Trump to make design changes to the wall at this stage.

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docyabut2

oh well it going to do the democratics  will keep those borders  open to bring in all the terrorists,  criminals , drugs in :(

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Farmer77
2 minutes ago, docyabut2 said:

oh well it going to do the democratics  will keep those borders  open to bring in all the terrorists,  criminals , drugs in :(

You really believe that dont you? :lol:

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aztek
5 minutes ago, docyabut2 said:

oh well it going to do the democratics  will keep those borders  open to bring in all the terrorists,  criminals , drugs in :(

it pretty much is today's reality.  

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Farmer77
1 minute ago, aztek said:

it pretty much is today's reality.  

Just for fun what party was in power in 2000? And what party was in power from 08-16?

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docyabut2

I just hope all the young people would want to fight back with Trump .

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Farmer77
Just now, docyabut2 said:

I just hope all the young people would want to fight back with Trump .

Based on all available data it would seem our younger generations are smart enough to see through Trump's fearmongering and lies 

The Verdict Is In: The Youth Vote Shaped The Midterm Results

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For months leading up to the pivotal 2018 midterm elections, the youth vote was brought up again and again: Especially after Parkland launched Generation Z's first social movement, would young people actually show up to the polls this year?
And now, we have our answer — a resounding yes. According to new exit poll analysis from the Center for Information and Research on Civic Learning and Engagement (CIRCLE), 31% of 18-to-29-year-olds voted in the midterms this year, representing a 50% increase from 2014. This is the highest youth participation in the last seven midterm elections, making turnout for voters under 30 the highest it's been since CIRCLE began doing its analysis of midterms youth voter turnout in 1994.
 
While a third of eligible voters may not sound like a lot, it is when you consider that turnout for midterm elections is historically lower across age groups and it's especially low for young people. In fact, only 21% of eligible 18-to-29-year-olds went to the polls during the last midterm election in 2014, according to CIRCLE data.

 

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docyabut2
21 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Based on all available data it would seem our younger generations are smart enough to see through Trump's fearmongering and lies 

The Verdict Is In: The Youth Vote Shaped The Midterm Results

 

Trump does not have back fearmongering and lies  and hope the young ones can see though it all of, the facts that are destroying  kids. a thousand kids dying from the drugs every year

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