Imaginarynumber1 Posted January 11, 2019 #101 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, joc said: I agree...it is unhealthy...and it may be more prevalent than I think...I don't really get out that much...I work a lot... I can tell you from experience, becuae I also work too much, that suicide rates among males, especially young adult males, is very very high. Its always the same story; "they didn't seem depressed" "he never said anything" " he always seemed happy" etc etc etc Edited January 11, 2019 by Imaginarynumber1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca-RoseElsie-Raemom1921 Posted January 11, 2019 #102 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dejarma said: You disappoint me! You're an Australian! You should've got the sarcasm straight away.. This is the kinda response I'd expect from one of my American friends but you didn't-- no worries I’m also a woman who has an ex who tried to be controlling and tried to raise a fist at me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted January 11, 2019 #103 Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Imaginarynumber1 said: I can tell you from experience, becuae I also work too much, that suicide rates among males, especially young adult males, is very very high. why is this do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted January 11, 2019 #104 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Imaginarynumber1 said: I can tell you from experience, becuae I also work too much, that suicide rates among males, especially young adult males, is very very high. Its always the same story; "they didn't seem depressed" "he never said anything" " he always seemed happy" etc etc etc unfortunately...I have experienced someone young like that committing suicide...it was tragic...it was so sad...and so senseless...and I have no clue why they did it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted January 11, 2019 #105 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, Dejarma said: why is this do you think? Simply, "toxic masculinity" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquila King Posted January 11, 2019 #106 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, Dejarma said: why is this do you think? Because they're taught to not express or deal with their emotions, which eventually come out as violence against themselves or others. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca-RoseElsie-Raemom1921 Posted January 11, 2019 #107 Share Posted January 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Imaginarynumber1 said: I can tell you from experience, becuae I also work too much, that suicide rates among males, especially young adult males, is very very high. Its always the same story; "they didn't seem depressed" "he never said anything" " he always seemed happy" etc etc etc The they didn’t seem depressed line always annoys me, of course they don’t seem it some people are good at hiding things. Hell only 3 people who know me in person know when I’m not myself, because I can hide it 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted January 11, 2019 #108 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Ruby04 said: I’m also a woman who has an ex who tried to be controlling and tried to raise a fist at me. ....tried to raise a fist at you.... What did you do.....does he still walk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted January 11, 2019 #109 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Ruby04 said: I’m also a woman who has an ex who tried to be controlling and tried to raise a fist at me. is that why you didn't get the sarcasm? you just jumped in thinking the worst? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquila King Posted January 11, 2019 #110 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) Snip Edited January 11, 2019 by Aquila King Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted January 11, 2019 #111 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Imaginarynumber1 said: Simply, "toxic masculinity" no you've lost me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted January 11, 2019 #112 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, joc said: unfortunately...I have experienced someone young like that committing suicide...it was tragic...it was so sad...and so senseless...and I have no clue why they did it. Because young males have it drilled into their heads from an early age to toughen up, walk it off, be strong, etc. Which in and of itself osmt terrible advice, but when paired with discouragement in showing emotion, being told they're weak etc, is a pretty direct path to suicide when they are experiencing mental health issues. I should know. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted January 11, 2019 #113 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Imaginarynumber1 said: Simply, "toxic masculinity" I think that is over simplification....we live in a very stressful world...and I think the parents are stressed out and don't really have the skills to teach their children about the dangers of stress....and that is only one factor...it is a dangerous age we live in...on a lot of fronts... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted January 11, 2019 #114 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Dejarma said: no you've lost me Then you're lost. Not my problem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted January 11, 2019 #115 Share Posted January 11, 2019 20 minutes ago, Imaginarynumber1 said: Ironic that white males are always the first to cry about white privilege not being real Not really. Self defence mechanism and all that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted January 11, 2019 #116 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Just now, joc said: I think that is over simplification....we live in a very stressful world...and I think the parents are stressed out and don't really have the skills to teach their children about the dangers of stress....and that is only one factor...it is a dangerous age we live in...on a lot of fronts... That's why I said "simply" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted January 11, 2019 #117 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Imaginarynumber1 said: Because young males have it drilled into their heads from an early age to toughen up, walk it off, be strong, etc. Which in and of itself osmt terrible advice, but when paired with discouragement in showing emotion, being told they're weak etc, is a pretty direct path to suicide when they are experiencing mental health issues. I should know. I agree. Sorry you know so much about all this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca-RoseElsie-Raemom1921 Posted January 11, 2019 #118 Share Posted January 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, joc said: ....tried to raise a fist at you.... What did you do.....does he still walk? What do you mean What did I do? 4 minutes ago, Dejarma said: is that why you didn't get the sarcasm? you just jumped in thinking the worst? Or because you are known for trolling like answers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Duck Posted January 11, 2019 #119 Share Posted January 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, Dejarma said: You disappoint me! You're an Australian! You should've got the sarcasm straight away.. This is the kinda response I'd expect from one of my American friends but you didn't-- no worries SOUTH Australian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted January 11, 2019 #120 Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, joc said: I agree. Sorry you know so much about all this. It's also hardly a new concept. While the idea of toxic masculinity has only recently entered the public eye, the core idea has been extensively studied in anthropology for decades. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca-RoseElsie-Raemom1921 Posted January 11, 2019 #121 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Golden Duck said: SOUTH Australian. Yeah and that means what? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted January 11, 2019 #122 Share Posted January 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ruby04 said: What do you mean What did I do? What do you mean what do you mean what did I do? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted January 11, 2019 #123 Share Posted January 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Ruby04 said: 6 minutes ago, joc said: ...tried to raise a fist at you.... What did you do.....does he still walk? What do you mean What did I do? Maybe I'm just misunderstanding the phrase you used. You said he 'tried' to raise a fist at you...not sure if you were saying he tried to hit you or what...I was just wondering if you retaliated in anyway. Never been to Australia...never met an Australian woman that I can remember...I just had it in my head that Aussy Women don't take a lot of crap and are tough as nails. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted January 11, 2019 #124 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Imaginarynumber1 said: Then you're lost. Not my problem. you said this: Quote I can tell you from experience, becuae I also work too much, that suicide rates among males, especially young adult males, is very very high. you said it, i did not= all i'm asking is to go into more detail= if you're far too drunk or drugged up or both then it's not me with a problem, mate-- all due respect Edited January 11, 2019 by Dejarma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted January 11, 2019 #125 Share Posted January 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ruby04 said: What do you mean What did I do? Or because you are known for trolling like answers what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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