Habitat Posted January 29, 2019 #126 Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said: There are no closed discussions in an open forum, honey. All you do is derail threads into closure. Congratulations. I think you will find the closure comes after complaints from the likes of you ! I was more than happy to continue the discussion, but eight bits went into smokescreen mode ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 29, 2019 #127 Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Habitat said: Read post #108 and tell me that isn't an accusation of lying. No, it is a another way to say you don’t have evidence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted January 29, 2019 #128 Share Posted January 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Habitat said: I think you will find the closure comes after complaints from the likes of you ! I was more than happy to continue the discussion, but eight bits went into smokescreen mode ! There IS no discussion when you are in it, as you have no respect for other opinions and points-of-view. You are right and everyone else is wrong and that's it. All you want to "discuss" is why you're right. That's not a discussion--that's a sermon. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 29, 2019 #129 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Sherapy said: No, it is a another way to say you don’t have evidence. Hardly. How about trying really weally hard to understand that "fellow bull****ers" is an accusation of lying. Old eight bits professes to hate being called a liar, but gives his fellow team members a leave pass ! What a crummy mob ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 29, 2019 #130 Share Posted January 29, 2019 Just now, Hammerclaw said: There IS no discussion when you are in it, as you have no respect for other opinions and points-of-view. You are right and everyone else is wrong and that's it. All you want to "discuss" is why you're right. That's not a discussion--that's a sermon. Report it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted January 29, 2019 #131 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, jmccr8 said: Hi Walker You have been debating positions of interpretation with people that do not share your world view which is essentially beliefs and you argue that you have a unique and true view and that others are not as adept as you. I find this to be a limiting perspective and a barb against worthy debaters as many of whom you argue with have provided credible material in support as well as defined their position responsibly And this was not the context in which religious debate was flowing. jmccr8 Debatng is fine. I don't reject or deny anothers' beliefs or opinions, except where they can do harm, but i will argue about them, and their relative merits and rationales your second point is correct but i argue with sources statistics and evidences about things which are demonstrable. Beliefs are not objectively demonstrable as true or false. To your third point religious beliefs are beliefs ive covered that. My examples went to peoples' opinions based on harmful and incorrect beliefs about things like vaccinations Edited January 29, 2019 by Mr Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted January 29, 2019 #132 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Habitat said: Report it ! Won't do any good; they'd close thread and he'll just pop into another thread and continue with more of the same. This has become just another Habitat thread, *sigh*. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 29, 2019 #133 Share Posted January 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, Habitat said: Hardly. How about trying really weally hard to understand that "fellow bull****ers" is an accusation of lying. Old eight bits professes to hate being called a liar, but gives his fellow team members a leave pass ! What a crummy mob ! Using one word, why are you so angry? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 29, 2019 #134 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Sherapy said: Using one word, why are you so angry? Well, what was your decision ? Was I accused of being a liar, or not ? I should accept that with equanimity ? Ask eight bits what he likes about being called a liar ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted January 29, 2019 #135 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Sherapy said: Geez what you won’t claim.... Meanwhile in Mr Walker’s head: “ he was a young Greek Adonis, sought after by all the land’s females, but was to busy surfing and cutting wood fer maw’s supper so as he would ‘scape gettin a whoopin from paw’s cane ...I sure hope no one remembers that he also told tales of himself as a pimply faced hormonal 16 year old who had quite a full fantasy life which included 3 breasted Amazon women.” All true I've even shown you a picture of me, a bit past that prime when i was 25 . Ive got photogrphic evidence of just how handsome i was, but you will have to take my word about my charm and winning ways Never had pimples ( too much time in salt water and sunshine, and a healthy diet, i think) That is your mental addition to the narrative. But yes, as a 13 year old bursting with testosterone, and to whom females were totally off limits by law and custom of the time, i DID create fantasy dream companions (I don't see anything unusual, unhealthy, embarrassing, or unbelievable, about that ) and dont blame me. YOU extended this debate. Edited January 29, 2019 by Mr Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Walker Posted January 29, 2019 #136 Share Posted January 29, 2019 24 minutes ago, Sherapy said: No, it is a another way to say you don’t have evidence. And of course, if he doesn't have evidence, then your default position is that he must be lieing, not that he is (or may be) telling the truth, but has no evidence . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 29, 2019 #137 Share Posted January 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, Mr Walker said: And of course, if he doesn't have evidence, then your default position is that he must be lieing, not that he is (or may be) telling the truth, but has no evidence . One has to admit the "team" do close ranks, all for one, and one for all ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 29, 2019 #138 Share Posted January 29, 2019 14 minutes ago, Mr Walker said: And of course, if he doesn't have evidence, then your default position is that he must be lieing, not that he is (or may be) telling the truth, but has no evidence . I didn’t call him a liar, I said he didn’t have evidence. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 29, 2019 #139 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Habitat said: One has to admit the "team" do close ranks, all for one, and one for all ! I didn’t call you a liar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 29, 2019 #140 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Sherapy said: I didn’t call you a liar. I've already asked you twice whether "hammerhead" did , but I'm happy to leave it be ! Thanks for Not calling me a liar ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 29, 2019 #141 Share Posted January 29, 2019 20 minutes ago, Mr Walker said: All true I've even shown you a picture of me, a bit past that prime when i was 25 . Ive got photogrphic evidence of just how handsome i was, but you will have to take my word about my charm and winning ways Never had pimples ( too much time in salt water and sunshine, and a healthy diet, i think) That is your mental addition to the narrative. But yes, as a 13 year old bursting with testosterone, and to whom females were totally off limits by law and custom of the time, i DID create fantasy dream companions (I don't see anything unusual, unhealthy, embarrassing, or unbelievable, about that ) and dont blame me. YOU extended this debate. Moving on.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 29, 2019 #142 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Habitat said: I've already asked you twice whether "hammerhead" did , but I'm happy to leave it be ! Thanks for Not calling me a liar ! You asked If eight bits did. Use care in the friends you choose, sometimes they can drag you into their drama’s. No one is calling you a liar, just asking for evidence. Which you say you don’t have, fair enough, I don’t think you are insisting any one should just take your work for things. Edited January 29, 2019 by Sherapy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 29, 2019 #143 Share Posted January 29, 2019 15 minutes ago, Habitat said: One has to admit the "team" do close ranks, all for one, and one for all ! The two closing ranks are you and MW. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 29, 2019 #144 Share Posted January 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, Sherapy said: You asked If eight bits did. Use care in the friends you choose, sometimes they can drag you into their drama’s. No one is calling you a liar, just asking for evidence. Which you say you don’t have, fair enough, I don’t think you are insisting any one should just take your work for things. In summary, No ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 29, 2019 #145 Share Posted January 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Habitat said: In summary, No ! Do you mean no that no one should just take your word for things? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted January 29, 2019 #146 Share Posted January 29, 2019 16 minutes ago, Sherapy said: Do you mean no that no one should just take your word for things? I am sick of explaining the bleeding obvious to people who simply don't have the devotion to the truth, that is needed, to reach the right conclusion. And in the case of the subject I speak of, the right conclusion, is NO conclusion. I'll leave you with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted January 29, 2019 #147 Share Posted January 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Mr Walker said: Debatng is fine. I don't reject or deny anothers' beliefs or opinions, except where they can do harm, but i will argue about them, and their relative merits and rationales Walker You do and have told myself and other's what we think and tell us we are not correct in our personal beliefs which is subjective and if it is a personal belief then why would another accept your corrections when it is known that they do not share your point of view. 1 hour ago, Mr Walker said: your second point is correct but i argue with sources statistics and evidences about things which are demonstrable. Beliefs are not objectively demonstrable as true or false. You have been arguing the bible, one book that you do not interpret in the same manner and insist that you are right even though you don't correct other's beliefs. 1 hour ago, Mr Walker said: To your third point religious beliefs are beliefs ive covered that. My examples went to peoples' opinions based on harmful and incorrect beliefs about things like vaccinations Well you would have me believe that I have a religion and as you earlier posted in the new world of words that religion is comprised of a supernatural force/entity/etc, rites and rituals without the trappings of costumes, buildings or any written or organized documentation. I don't have an entity super, ultra, or regular natural, there are no rites or rituals and there is nothing said by any unknown unprovable entities. Now I say it's not a religion, a personal belief, yes, a way of living of course, do I think everyone needs to join, no and thankful for it. jmccr8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted January 29, 2019 #148 Share Posted January 29, 2019 The only one who needs to join, is you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted January 29, 2019 #149 Share Posted January 29, 2019 15 minutes ago, Will Due said: The only one who needs to join, is you. Will If your talking to me what exactly outside of your perspective are you suggesting I join, I do not feel lonely enough or mentally fatigued by life to have a need for complicating my life with fantasy and fictional beings. I am happy with my path. jmccr8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted January 29, 2019 #150 Share Posted January 29, 2019 59 minutes ago, Will Due said: The only one who needs to join, is you. Join what, Will? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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