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US approval of child bride immigration

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Thousands of requests by men to bring in child and adolescent brides to live in the United States were approved over the past decade, according to government data obtained by The Associated Press.

In one case, a 49-year-old man applied for admission for a 15-year-old girl.

The approvals are legal: The Immigration and Nationality Act does not set minimum age requirements. And in weighing petitions for spouses or fiancees, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services goes by whether the marriage is legal in the home country and then whether the marriage would be legal in the state where the petitioner lives.

But the data raises questions about whether the immigration system may be enabling forced marriage and about how U.S. laws may be compounding the problem despite efforts to limit child and forced marriage. Marriage between adults and minors is not uncommon in the United States, and most states allow children to marry with some restrictions.

There were more than 5,000 cases of adults petitioning on behalf of minors and nearly 3,000 examples of minors seeking to bring in older spouses or fiances, according to the data requested by the Senate Homeland Security Committee in 2017 and compiled into a report.

Full report at NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/01/11/us/politics/ap-us-child-marriage-immigration.html

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RoofGardener

In which US state is it legal to marry a 15 year old ? :unsure2:

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Piney

If you have a small penis or insecurity issues, the U.S.A. is the place to be. :mellow:

Nauseating.........

1 minute ago, RoofGardener said:

In which US state is it legal to marry a 15 year old ? :unsure2:

Probably Alabama or Mississippi.......But if it was Texas I wouldn't be shocked.....

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RoofGardener

Thanks for that Eldorado. 

I also discovered the Wiki article on it. Apparently - with parental approval - you can marry at the age of 15 in Missouri and Hawaii !!

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Eldorado
3 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

Thanks for that Eldorado. 

I also discovered the Wiki article on it. Apparently - with parental approval - you can marry at the age of 15 in Missouri and Hawaii !!

In Massachusetts it's 12yrs old! (with parental consent)  :(

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RoofGardener

EGADS... you're right. And 13 in New Hampshire :o 

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Piney
9 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

Thanks for that Eldorado. 

I also discovered the Wiki article on it. Apparently - with parental approval - you can marry at the age of 15 in Missouri and Hawaii !!

The Mormons own half of Hawaii, so I'm not shocked. 

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aztek

you still need to be of legal age to get marriage license, each state makes their own age limit, if underage, legal guardian consent is required.  afaik K1 visas are not granted to legal guardians. and future fiance can not be a legal guardian.

 

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Aquila King

This topic really needs to be brought out into the spotlight a lot more. Thanks for that @Eldorado.

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Earl.Of.Trumps
1 hour ago, Eldorado said:

In Massachusetts it's 12yrs old! (with parental consent)  :(

That law goes way back. I remember reading that a while ago and joking that some really influential rich dude or politician's little suzy got knocked up at 12. So...  LOL

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RabidMongoose
1 hour ago, Eldorado said:

Thousands of requests by men to bring in child and adolescent brides to live in the United States were approved over the past decade, according to government data obtained by The Associated Press.

In one case, a 49-year-old man applied for admission for a 15-year-old girl.

The approvals are legal: The Immigration and Nationality Act does not set minimum age requirements. And in weighing petitions for spouses or fiancees, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services goes by whether the marriage is legal in the home country and then whether the marriage would be legal in the state where the petitioner lives.

But the data raises questions about whether the immigration system may be enabling forced marriage and about how U.S. laws may be compounding the problem despite efforts to limit child and forced marriage. Marriage between adults and minors is not uncommon in the United States, and most states allow children to marry with some restrictions.

There were more than 5,000 cases of adults petitioning on behalf of minors and nearly 3,000 examples of minors seeking to bring in older spouses or fiances, according to the data requested by the Senate Homeland Security Committee in 2017 and compiled into a report.

Full report at NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/01/11/us/politics/ap-us-child-marriage-immigration.html

That is so wrong.

So a paedo can get away with it in the US if he marries her outside the country then ships her in?

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RabidMongoose
1 hour ago, Eldorado said:

In Massachusetts it's 12yrs old! (with parental consent)  :(

What?

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aztek
Just now, RabidMongoose said:

That is so wrong.

So a paedo can get away with it in the US if he marries her outside the country then ships her in?

no, it makes thing much more complicated to marry her in another country, especially underage, the article is about K1 fiance visa approval.

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Just now, RabidMongoose said:

What?

it's true, that law may be 200 years old, however newer laws of statutory rape really negate it

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4 minutes ago, aztek said:

no, it makes thing much more complicated to marry her in another country, especially underage, the article is about K1 fiance visa approval.

So are you telling us he doesnt even have to marry her beforehand?

So a paedo can basically ship in his underage GF?

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aztek
Just now, RabidMongoose said:

So are you telling us he doesnt even have to marry her beforehand?

So a paedo can basically ship in his underage GF?

nope, fiance visa means she has 90 days here to get married, or she goes home if she does not., or becomes illegal if she stays

yep. on paper he can , but in reality, good luck.  unless you have religious grounds , you'll have to go thru hell to get here her legally.  this story is nothing but making a mountain out of molehill

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freetoroam

Meanwhile back in the middle ages !

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aztek

what this story actually ignores, that underage wives are brought for underage husbands, in vast majority of cases.  in some culture\religions it is normal, and they keep practicing such beliefs and traditions here. it has nothing to do with sex slavery,

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Dark_Grey
1 hour ago, aztek said:

what this story actually ignores, that underage wives are brought for underage husbands, in vast majority of cases.  in some culture\religions it is normal, and they keep practicing such beliefs and traditions here. it has nothing to do with sex slavery,

This. Arranged marriages are still practiced widely.

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Eldorado
3 hours ago, aztek said:

it's true, that law may be 200 years old, however newer laws of statutory rape really negate it

In some states, it is possible for a minor to legally marry even if they are below the age of sexual consent in that state.

Between 2000 and 2015, at least 200,000 minors were legally married in the US. 86% of these marriages were to an adult.

About 5% of the minors were aged 15 and under meaning they would be under the age of sexual consent anywhere in the USA.

State laws on age of sexual consent and age of marriage are very inconsistent. In some cases, judges who approve underage marriages are approving a marriage between a rapist and their victim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States

as of January 2019:

    17 states have no minimum age of marriage in some cases.
    2 states have a minimum age of 14.
    5 states have a minimum age of 15.
    19 states have a minimum age of 16.
    7 states have a minimum age of 17.

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55 minutes ago, Eldorado said:

In some states, it is possible for a minor to legally marry even if they are below the age of sexual consent in that state.

Between 2000 and 2015, at least 200,000 minors were legally married in the US. 86% of these marriages were to an adult.

About 5% of the minors were aged 15 and under meaning they would be under the age of sexual consent anywhere in the USA.

State laws on age of sexual consent and age of marriage are very inconsistent. In some cases, judges who approve underage marriages are approving a marriage between a rapist and their victim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States

as of January 2019:

    17 states have no minimum age of marriage in some cases.
    2 states have a minimum age of 14.
    5 states have a minimum age of 15.
    19 states have a minimum age of 16.
    7 states have a minimum age of 17.

What is wrong with that country? OMG

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aztek
Just now, Eldorado said:

In some states, it is possible for a minor to legally marry even if they are below the age of sexual consent in that state.

Between 2000 and 2015, at least 200,000 minors were legally married in the US. 86% of these marriages were to an adult.

About 5% of the minors were aged 15 and under meaning they would be under the age of sexual consent anywhere in the USA.

State laws on age of sexual consent and age of marriage are very inconsistent. In some cases, judges who approve underage marriages are approving a marriage between a rapist and their victim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_the_United_States

as of January 2019:

    17 states have no minimum age of marriage in some cases.
    2 states have a minimum age of 14.
    5 states have a minimum age of 15.
    19 states have a minimum age of 16.
    7 states have a minimum age of 17.

it sure sounds bad on paper, but "adult" is something that is also up to states, i see no harm when a 17 y.o. marries 19 y.o (legally adult in some states) due to their religion or tradition.  actually it is mostly practiced by Muslims, and hindus

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7 hours ago, Piney said:

If you have a small penis or insecurity issues, the U.S.A. is the place to be. :mellow:

Nauseating.........

Probably Alabama or Mississippi.......But if it was Texas I wouldn't be shocked.....

Massachusettes and New Hampshire, who'd a thunk it?

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Piney
27 minutes ago, and then said:

Massachusettes and New Hampshire, who'd a thunk it?

OOPS! :unsure2:

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