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Harry Reid advocates for further UFO research

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Dejarma
39 minutes ago, UM-Bot said:

The retired Nevada Democrat believes that pilots should be able to report UFO sightings without fear of ridicule.

https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/324793/harry-reid-advocates-for-further-ufo-research

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"So, many, many times they don't say a word to anybody about these strange things."

what a ridiculous thing to say= if they don't say anything then how the **** do you know they've seen these strange things so many many times!?

this is aimed at the person who wrote the article of course

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Almighty Evan
4 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

"So, many, many times they don't say a word to anybody about these strange things."


 

what a ridiculous thing to say= if they don't say anything then how the Fk do you know they've seen these strange things so many many times!?

this is aimed at the person who wrote the article of course

Niels Lesniewski, who wrote the article, should not have included that quote from Harry Reid?

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Earl.Of.Trumps

"Reid, who has previously spoken out about the Pentagon's secretive $22M UFO program, remains committed to the notion that unidentified arial phenomena should be taken more seriously."

$22 million, on WHAT??   Cripes, as we all know, Project Bluebook proved that there is no such thing as flying saucers flown by little green men. Preposterous!

@Dejarma maybe these pilots spoke to Ried. He seems to have some pilots lined up to speak to active congressional members with their concerns
 

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Robotic Jew
3 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

"Reid, who has previously spoken out about the Pentagon's secretive $22M UFO program, remains committed to the notion that unidentified arial phenomena should be taken more seriously."

$22 million, on WHAT??   Cripes, as we all know, Project Bluebook proved that there is no such thing as flying saucers flown by little green men. Preposterous!

@Dejarma maybe these pilots spoke to Ried. He seems to have some pilots lined up to speak to active congressional members with their concerns
 

Just because there is an investigation doesn't mean there's something there to find...you of all people should know this.

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bison

It seems clear enough that Mr. Reid means that while some pilots mention UFO sightings to someone, many more would report them officially if they were encouraged to do so rather than ridiculed. Designating someone in Congress to be their sounding board is an interesting idea.   

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stereologist

Reid was the guy who got the $22M to his buddy in Nevada. I imagine Reid supports the programs he insisted should get cash.

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Earl.Of.Trumps
56 minutes ago, Robotic Jew said:

Just because there is an investigation doesn't mean there's something there to find...you of all people should know this.

No but it does mean that congress thinks it is *possible* there is something there worth looking into.

again, this contradicts the Project Bluebook findings.

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stereologist
45 minutes ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

No but it does mean that congress thinks it is *possible* there is something there worth looking into.

again, this contradicts the Project Bluebook findings.

This does not contradict the findings. This is one person, not congress as a whole.

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Buzz_Light_Year

The R in Reid actually stands for Reptilian. :alien:

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ChrLzs

Not seeing the problem.  If the pilots are being ridiculous (and some clearly are), then ridicule seems entirely appropriate...

Let's face it - despite the advances in aircraft systems, the best we get nowadays is the absolute drivel coming from moronic organisations like 'To The Stars'?, where they can't even get the videos attached to the right stories, and don't know how IR/gymbal camera tracking systems operate?

Instead of whining, why don't the UFO=whatever proponents just provide ONE decent well-documented case?

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John n b
1 hour ago, ChrLzs said:

Not seeing the problem.  If the pilots are being ridiculous (and some clearly are), then ridicule seems entirely appropriate...

Let's face it - despite the advances in aircraft systems, the best we get nowadays is the absolute drivel coming from moronic organisations like 'To The Stars'?, where they can't even get the videos attached to the right stories, and don't know how IR/gymbal camera tracking systems operate?

Instead of whining, why don't the UFO=whatever proponents just provide ONE decent well-documented case?

ChrLzs. Have you ever seen the photo of the UFO taken by Argentine air force captain, Hugo Niotti in 1960, if you have, what's your opinion on it, if not, it's worth taking a look to see if you can come up with some explanation that might just solve the mystery.

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Dejarma

oh yeah the good 'ol Hugo Niotti photo= nothing more than a photographic anomaly

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John n b
5 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

oh yeah the good 'ol Hugo Niotti photo= nothing more than a photographic anomaly

Or a craft from another galaxy. 

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Dejarma
26 minutes ago, John n b said:

Or a craft from another galaxy. 

if you insist 

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stereologist
26 minutes ago, John n b said:

Or a craft from another galaxy. 

Or a flying meatball from pellucidar

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stereologist

I think  Harry wants to give him rich buddy another $22M. Do you think that will bring to light the alien metal in the warehouse?

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Dejarma
1 minute ago, stereologist said:

Or a flying meatball from pellucidar

it could be= best to have an open mind, so i've been told

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stereologist
Just now, Dejarma said:

it could be= best to have an open mind, so i've been told

You are right. It might be an electromagnetic timeslip worm hole continuum.

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Dejarma
1 minute ago, stereologist said:

I think  Harry wants to give him rich buddy another $22M. Do you think that will bring to light the alien metal in the warehouse?

are you referring to the tinfoil type material that couldn't be drilled, burnt or even creased yet somehow managed to brake into small pieces on impact?

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Gecks
2 hours ago, ChrLzs said:

Instead of whining, why don't the UFO=whatever proponents just provide ONE decent well-documented case?

Because you would see its false. Blurry photographs and half arsed accounts keep the 'maybe it could be real' train on the rails

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Dejarma
2 minutes ago, stereologist said:

You are right. It might be an electromagnetic timeslip worm hole continuum.

you know what, stereo-- yeah why not, i'm enjoying this fantasy world view i'm in right now= photographic anomaly HA! what was i thinking.. what a silly closed minded individual i've been;)

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Dejarma
1 minute ago, Gecks said:

Because you would see its false. Blurry photographs and half arsed accounts keep the 'maybe it could be real' train on the rails

yep

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ChrLzs

OK, to be specific - here's the Hugo Niotti image, from UFO Casebook.

yacantoargentina1960.jpg

The claimed object was, allegedly, very close to Niotti.  As a photographer (and amateur photogrammetry self-proclaimed 'expert' :D ), I can tell you that the intense darkness means it either was a darkroom/film defect or it was indeed 'very close', due to the intensity of the black.  If it was at any reasonable distance it would have to be less dark from normal atmospheric haze/reported rain.  The blurring is not consistent with being either:

- out of focus (note the depth of field in the image - everything but the blob seems in good focus.. so the blob is likely not in the scene, but was something either stuck on the lens or very nearby, or it happened during printing via the enlarger)

- motion - the blur seems to have no directionality.

As for the story, if we are to believe the third hand reports (only scans of the negative or print seem to exist, and the original interview information seems long gone) it is interesting in that Niotti recalls the scene as very dream-like (cough)......

As for the ludicrous claim as 'authentic' by some Argentinian analysis bureau, I've seen the work those sort of bureaus have done (just ask Leslie Keane).  And the authenticity is only verifiable if the negative exists, and you cannot determine from such an image whether some sort of fakery was involved.  It could be as simple as a button stuck on a side window of his car...  An authentic button, of course!!

The problem here is that we have no evidence other than a (poor) photo (and a photo which strongly suggest that the object, if it was in the original scene, was in fact not over that paddock but very close to the lens) and a (conflicting) story.

It could be anything from a deliberate fake to a 15 minute of fame claim, to a false memory that he developed, mental issues, or many other things.  Such a story is useless, unless something similar is documented and corroborated.

And that is the best???????

If anyone has better information or a large scan of the negative, let me know.

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