McJesus artwork upsets Christians in Haifa

[Eldorado 33,586]

A sculpture of "McJesus" — Jesus modeled as Ronald McDonald — has upset Christians in Israel, where the art remains on display.

Hundreds of Christians in the Middle Eastern country are calling for the art to be removed from the Haifa Museum of Art, where the display has been up for months.

It was previously on display in other countries without any issues.

Police said that rioters who oppose the art have thrown stones and a firebomb at the museum, leaving three officers wounded. Authorities have dispersed the crowds with tear gas and stun grenades.

Nissim Tal, the museum's director, told The Associated Press that the uproar was sudden. The protests appear to have been sparked by visitors who have shared photos of the exhibit online.

Full monty with pics: https://www.foxnews.com/world/mcjesus-art-sculpture-at-israeli-museum-upsets-christians

[Farmer77 22,616]

My first thought was to rail against the artist but their reasoning actually makes sense and puts the whole thing in a different light

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The display is intended to be a criticism of capitalism worship.

 

[freetoroam 29,942]

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Police said that rioters who oppose the art have thrown stones and a firebomb at the museum, leaving three officers wounded.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/mcjesus-art-sculpture-at-israeli-museum-upsets-christians

I doubt Jesus would have agreed to this kind of violence. 

These people are so hypocritical its quite sickening.

[Golden Duck 4,341]

8 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

My first thought was to rail against the artist but their reasoning actually makes sense and puts the whole thing in a different light

 

I didn't get it.  I still don't.  Capitalism is dead and will rise again?

It would have made more sense with Moses holding the 10 commandments in the shape of the Golden Arches.

[Farmer77 22,616]

2 minutes ago, Golden Duck said:

I didn't get it.  I still don't.  Capitalism is dead and will rise again?

It would have made more sense with Moses holding the 10 commandments in the shape of the Golden Arches.

Once I read the reasoning I took it as a somewhat striking visual representation of the repriorization of our society. It truly does seem that on a certain level capitalism is the only thing, here in the US at least, that is treated as holy.

 

Edited January 15 by Farmer77

[ChrLzs 15,201]

Is it wrong of me to think the hypocrisy and irony here is .. delicious?

You know, that if only we had no religion, and also no religious eaters of fast food, such problems would never arise.

Religion, and fences.  That's where all the trouble originated...

[Earl.Of.Trumps 2,698]

And when Westerners draw cartoon caricatures of Mohamed which upset muslims everywhere, what did the West basically tell these people?  Ya, sit on it.

childish tit for tat.

[Piney 31,492]

47 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

My first thought was to rail against the artist but their reasoning actually makes sense and puts the whole thing in a different light

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It cracked me up!  

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Most Jews hate Christians?   Say it ain't so!    Gee, I wonder why they'd feel that way?

[Piney 31,492]

12 minutes ago, and then said:

Most Jews hate Christians?   Say it ain't so!    Gee, I wonder why they'd feel that way?

Catholic pogroms? Martin Luther? 

[Likely Guy 24,108]

Then there's this place:

Nazi-themed café in Indonesia reopens

A Nazi-themed café that was shut following after international protest at its décor has re-opened — still bearing quotations and paintings of Adolf Hitler, and staff in Nazi uniforms.

The SoldatenKaffee — named after a café in Paris popular with German soldiers during World War 2 — is in Bandung, Indonesia’s third-largest city. The café was closed last year after its owner received death threats, but they pledged to re-open it and remove the swastikas.

But when it was re-launched this weekend, men attended the opening in Nazi uniform and others posed as prisoners of war. The café does now feature some allied memorabilia, but the Nazi insignia and uniforms that prompted the protest remain.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/nazi-themed-caf-in-indonesia-re-opens-keeping-the-swastikas-and-images-of-hitler-it-pledged-to-9554643.html

 

The article goes on to say, "A spokesman for the café’s owners said that it was interested in military history, not ideology or glorification."

 

McJesus is just 'art' and Nazis are just 'history', I guess. I'm not passing judgement as I'm caught between where freedom of expression  begins and where being offensive ends.

 

Edited January 15 by Likely Guy

[ChrLzs 15,201]

12 minutes ago, Likely Guy said:

I'm not passing judgement as I'm caught between where freedom of expression  begins and where being offensive ends.

This ^.

I fully understand the offense, but when you think about it, how is this cafeteria that much different to, say, a war museum that displays memorabilia?

I would make a wild guess that here in Oz, if people dressed in Nazi costume turned up at such a museum, they would (and should) be asked to leave and the cops called if they refused.  I also suspect that if you opened such a coffee shop here, there would be (hopefully peaceful) protestors blocking access to the shop to ensure it could not succeed.  But is that what should happen?  I really am not sure.

I would imagine that culture differences might mean different outcomes and actions in each country...

[Farmer77 22,616]

24 minutes ago, Likely Guy said:

McJesus is just 'art' and Nazis are just 'history', I guess. I'm not passing judgement as I'm caught between where being offensive begins and where freedom of expression ends.

Well said. 

 

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5 hours ago, Piney said:

Catholic pogroms? Martin Luther? 

It was a rhetorical question, Piney.  They have every reason to mistrust and despise Christians.

[and then 30,868]

2 hours ago, Likely Guy said:

Then there's this place:

Nazi-themed café in Indonesia reopens

A Nazi-themed café that was shut following after international protest at its décor has re-opened — still bearing quotations and paintings of Adolf Hitler, and staff in Nazi uniforms.

The SoldatenKaffee — named after a café in Paris popular with German soldiers during World War 2 — is in Bandung, Indonesia’s third-largest city. The café was closed last year after its owner received death threats, but they pledged to re-open it and remove the swastikas.

But when it was re-launched this weekend, men attended the opening in Nazi uniform and others posed as prisoners of war. The café does now feature some allied memorabilia, but the Nazi insignia and uniforms that prompted the protest remain.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/nazi-themed-caf-in-indonesia-re-opens-keeping-the-swastikas-and-images-of-hitler-it-pledged-to-9554643.html

 

The article goes on to say, "A spokesman for the café’s owners said that it was interested in military history, not ideology or glorification."

 

McJesus is just 'art' and Nazis are just 'history', I guess. I'm not passing judgement as I'm caught between where freedom of expression  begins and where being offensive ends.

 

Have you noticed the burgeoning acceptance of antiSemitism that is ongoing, worldwide?  It will only continue to grow.  There is a destination, we've seen it before, only this time they aren't going quietly.

[Farmer77 22,616]

3 minutes ago, and then said:

Have you noticed the burgeoning acceptance of antiSemitism that is ongoing, worldwide? 

Why yes, yes we have.

 

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6 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Why yes, yes we have.

 

That's good, Farm boy.  When the time comes for accountability it will be good that you've taken your stand for all to see.

[Farmer77 22,616]

6 minutes ago, and then said:

That's good, Farm boy.  When the time comes for accountability it will be good that you've taken your stand for all to see.

My stand ? You mean things like racism is bad?  I'll gladly stand for all to see that, no worries.

Amigo, you are standing on the side of the antisemites do you genuinely not see that?

 

[sci-nerd 2,393]

 

                His Noodliness, the FSM, is very upset that his only begotten son is treated this way! 

[Raptor Witness 978]

Jesus taught that whoever speaks against Him, is easily forgiven, but whatever sins against the Holy Spirit, is not.

 I didn’t care much for the cross that was in the bottle of urine in New York, but I don’t think it should’ve been removed from the gallery.

 Only a true cult cannot survive such things.

 

 

[Jon the frog 778]

On 1/14/2019 at 7:44 PM, freetoroam said:

I doubt Jesus would have agreed to this kind of violence. 

These people are so hypocritical its quite sickening.

Whatever... peoples are killing each others for thousands of years for believes or in the name of their gods...

Edited January 16 by Jon the frog

[Phaeton80 3,070]

On 15-1-2019 at 8:31 AM, and then said:

That's good, Farm boy.  When the time comes for accountability it will be good that you've taken your stand for all to see.

Oh lawd, the mindnumbing irony.. 

These two sentences perfectly define your profile, you should make it your signature.

[Eldorado 33,586]

Update:

A sculpture of a crucified Ronald McDonald will be removed from an art museum in Israel after the display sparked violent protests, the mayor of Haifa said.

The artwork by Finnish artist Jani Leinonen, titled "McJesus," shows Ronald McDonald on the cross and had been on loan to the Haifa Museum of Art from a museum in Helsinki.

In a tweet along with a picture of the work's borrowing agreement, mayor Einat Kalisch Rotem said the sculpture would be removed "as soon as possible."

Full monty: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/01/17/mcjesus-sculpture-removed-haifa-museum-kalisch-rotem-says/2604432002/

[Kittens Are Jerks 5,610]

17 minutes ago, Eldorado said:

A sculpture of a crucified Ronald McDonald will be removed from an art museum in Israel after the display sparked violent protests, the mayor of Haifa said.

Good riddance. It was an eyesore. 

[odas 1,817]

On 14/01/2019 at 7:38 PM, Eldorado said:

A sculpture of "McJesus" — Jesus modeled as Ronald McDonald — has upset Christians in Israel, where the art remains on display.

Hundreds of Christians in the Middle Eastern country are calling for the art to be removed from the Haifa Museum of Art, where the display has been up for months.

It was previously on display in other countries without any issues.

Police said that rioters who oppose the art have thrown stones and a firebomb at the museum, leaving three officers wounded. Authorities have dispersed the crowds with tear gas and stun grenades.

Nissim Tal, the museum's director, told The Associated Press that the uproar was sudden. The protests appear to have been sparked by visitors who have shared photos of the exhibit online.

Full monty with pics: https://www.foxnews.com/world/mcjesus-art-sculpture-at-israeli-museum-upsets-christians

Rightly, I would be pi**ed too. If the artist had used  Burger King we would not have this issue. As smart people say- choose wisely.

 

 

 

Burger King sucks.

Edited January 19 by odas