Secret Pentagon research projects revealed

[Gecks]

7 hours ago, Dejarma said:

If they're really working on this stuff then one would assume (seeing there's no end result for the world to see) it's still secret?? So why reveal it all to the world via a FOIA request?

Therefore IMO one should question the validity of: 'Steven Aftergood's (director of the Federation of American Scientists' Project on Government Secrecy)' FOIA response....

It sounds a little fishy to me...........

I suppose you couldn't blame them for researching all manner of things, no matter how improbable they appear on face value. Cant prove or disprove it until you try guess. 

If you consider other countries can research the exact same technologies you wouldnt want to have blown an idea off as seemingly improbable and now they have it and you dont

[Dejarma]

9 minutes ago, Gecks said:

I suppose you couldn't blame them for researching all manner of things, no matter how improbable they appear on face value. Cant prove or disprove it until you try guess. 

If you consider other countries can research the exact same technologies you wouldnt want to have blown an idea off as seemingly improbable and now they have it and you dont

what i'm actually saying is i have my douts this FOIA response is lagit.....

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

16 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

what i'm actually saying is i have my douts this FOIA response is lagit.....

Can you expand on that a little, Dejarma?  Not following you.

[Gecks]

22 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

what i'm actually saying is i have my douts this FOIA response is lagit.....

Ahhh understood. They perhaps put out a BS response as really ' you've got no chance'.

[Dejarma]

1 minute ago, Gecks said:

Ahhh understood. They perhaps put out a BS response as really ' you've got no chance'.

i wonder how Steven Aftergood worded the letter/ e-mail when contacting the FOIA? how would you word it?

something like:

what secret projects have/ are government agencies working on? & then they send a response like the one in the OP!? i doubt it= i say it's BS

then take a look at what Steven Aftergood is the director of= sounds to me like nothing more than a conspiracy theory nut!

just my opinion of course.........

[EBE Hybrid]

23 hours ago, stereologist said:

I've heard about the invisibility research. In fact it has been accomplished to some extent.

https://www.cnn.com/2016/07/20/health/invisibility-cloaks-research/index.html

I think most of the invisibility stuff is carried out by Quinetic, which used to be UK MOD research Fort Halstead, which is just a few miles up the road from me

[+Noteverythingisaconspiracy]

They did indeed develop an invisibility machine and an anti gravity device, but sadly they put the invisibility machine inside the anti gravity device and now they can't find it again. 

[EBE Hybrid]

19 minutes ago, Scudbuster said:

So imagine the strategic advantage if you have a cloaked, anti gravity vehicle flying stealthily without sound..........and conducting reconnaissance.....or other activities.

Thats why they are spending these mega millions on uber secret black projects. 

As I understand it, the work at Halstead focuses on distortion of the electro-magnetic spectrum to render a battlefield tank invisible

Edited January 24, 2019 by EBE Hybrid
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[Dejarma]

Does anyone in here believe you can get this info via a mere FOIA request?

[Leo Krupe]

52 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

Does anyone in here believe you can get this info via a mere FOIA request?

Sure. But not because I believe we actually have this stuff. As I posted earlier about the traversible wormholes, these are studies (at least that one was). It wouldn't be unusual for academic studies and fanciful government projects to be publicly available. It's kind of like how automakers show off concept cars at auto shows--it doesn't necessarily mean they're coming out with the technology featured, it's showing off what they can do and what they're imagining.

[Dejarma]

12 minutes ago, Leo Krupe said:

It wouldn't be unusual for academic studies and fanciful government projects to be publicly available.

not if they're supposed to be secret though= as in this thread title

[Leo Krupe]

16 minutes ago, Dejarma said:

not if they're supposed to be secret though= as in this thread title

Good point. So it's a sensationalistic thread title. What else is new? (Go to the linked document in the OP, and you'll see that the actual document from the FOIA is listed as UNCLASSIFIED FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY   so it was never actually classified information anyway--or maybe it was, but was declassified--but the doc says "unclassified". I'm not familiar with classifications, but that's not the point. The point is it was released through FOIA because it's not secret.) But who wants to go to all the trouble of actually checking information? It's much more fun to just take a headline at its word and not read the story (that's not a dig at anyone here--it's what probably 99% of anyone who reads anything does).

Edited January 24, 2019 by Leo Krupe

[Hawken]

The FBI seized Nikola Tesla's documents when he died. I bet they know how to harness wireless energy among other things.

[Mystify]

The only reason they even admitted to the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program is because they needed to cover their butts and admit something. It's part of the slow 7 year disclosure project; Give a little, admit to them being here and that's it; The stuff they've been working on is only plausible because of previous interaction with different species through a multitude of programs and events that transpired since 1940. They've had all this all along and are EONs ahead technologically then they lead us to believe. ... it's just the beginning of slow admittance of error. By the time truth comes out, those responsible will be long dead.

[Earl.Of.Trumps]

30 minutes ago, Mystify said:

The only reason they even admitted to the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program is because they needed to cover their butts and admit something.

Nah.  All they have to do is deny. 95% will believe them, and the 5% will be ostracised and called "conspiracy theorists".  Rinse and repeat.

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It's part of the slow 7 year disclosure project; Give a little, admit to them being here and that's it; The stuff they've been working on is only plausible because of previous interaction with different species through a multitude of programs and events that transpired since 1940.

Some kind of strong evidence will be needed here.

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They've had all this all along and are EONs ahead technologically then they lead us to believe. ... it's just the beginning of slow admittance of error. By the time truth comes out, those responsible will be long dead.
 

No doubt, they are ahead of whatever they have let on.  THe US put a man on the moon in 1969 and then, seemingly, did little else in space since. But, I believe the military took over from there and for the last 50 years, they have done a lot in re, space travel, that the public will never know about, not for a long while, anyway

Edited January 24, 2019 by Earl.Of.Trumps

[Dejarma]

43 minutes ago, Mystify said:

It's part of the slow 7 year disclosure project

where did you get the <7 years from>? who told you that?

[Dejarma]

2 hours ago, Leo Krupe said:

(Go to the linked document in the OP,

i'm saying this is not a real document.. i think it's made up BS put forward by Steven Aftergood- for reasons stated earlier

[Golden Duck]

6 hours ago, Dejarma said:

not if they're supposed to be secret though= as in this thread title

I can't quickly find transcripts of the Committee hearings. 

https://fas.org/irp/dia/aatip-list.pdf

Why do you have doubts about FAS?

[Dejarma]

6 minutes ago, Golden Duck said:

I can't quickly find transcripts of the Committee hearings. 

https://fas.org/irp/dia/aatip-list.pdf

Why do you have doubts about FAS?

to be honest: i do not know how to reply to that

[Trelane]

17 hours ago, Mystify said:

The only reason they even admitted to the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program is because they needed to cover their butts and admit something. It's part of the slow 7 year disclosure project; Give a little, admit to them being here and that's it; The stuff they've been working on is only plausible because of previous interaction with different species through a multitude of programs and events that transpired since 1940. They've had all this all along and are EONs ahead technologically then they lead us to believe. ... it's just the beginning of slow admittance of error. By the time truth comes out, those responsible will be long dead.
 

The AATIP probably had a secondary and more earthly purpose. It likely allowed for a centralized organization to collate and analyze foreign aviation threats. This applies to conventional aircraft and potential sub-orbital craft being developed.

[stereologist]

17 hours ago, Mystify said:

The only reason they even admitted to the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program is because they needed to cover their butts and admit something. It's part of the slow 7 year disclosure project; Give a little, admit to them being here and that's it; The stuff they've been working on is only plausible because of previous interaction with different species through a multitude of programs and events that transpired since 1940. They've had all this all along and are EONs ahead technologically then they lead us to believe. ... it's just the beginning of slow admittance of error. By the time truth comes out, those responsible will be long dead.
 

This story of disclosure soon has been going on forever. It is also just ahead. The idea of disclosure coming soon has been going on for decades. It's nothing more than a story.

[Mystify]

4 hours ago, stereologist said:

This story of disclosure soon has been going on forever. It is also just ahead. The idea of disclosure coming soon has been going on for decades. It's nothing more than a story.

How is it a story if it's been happening... continuously... since the inception of THEIR deception? it's been a slow drip feed.

[Mystify]

21 hours ago, Dejarma said:

where did you get the <7 years from>? who told you that?

David Wilcock

[stereologist]

13 minutes ago, Mystify said:

How is it a story if it's been happening... continuously... since the inception of THEIR deception? it's been a slow drip feed.

The notion of disclosure is rather vague. Anything someone says is linked to disclosure. Yet, disclosure never happens.

The nonexistent slow drip feed is imaginary. There really hasn't been anything leading up to disclosure. It doesn't get closer and closer to any announcement.

You also mention David Wilcock. He was one of the kooks talking about 2012. Went suddenly quiet when nothing happened. I looked into some his claims back then and found out that he loved to use references that did not support the statements he was making. He came off as just another charlatan. His statements are false. He pretends they are true and pretends to show support. He promotes such pseudoscience as vitalism. The guy is a joke and nothing he says should be trusted. I couldn't find anything back in 2012 that he claimed that was true.

The one thing that amazes me all of the time is that even after the gigantic failure of the 2012 fiasco people still believe the hucksters that promoted the failures.

Added:

I just looked up that guy and he is the one claiming he is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce.

Edited January 25, 2019 by stereologist
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[Mystify]

22 hours ago, Earl.Of.Trumps said:

Nah.  All they have to do is deny. 95% will believe them, and the 5% will be ostracised and called "conspiracy theorists".  Rinse and repeat.

Some kind of strong evidence will be needed here.

No doubt, they are ahead of whatever they have let on.  THe US put a man on the moon in 1969 and then, seemingly, did little else in space since. But, I believe the military took over from there and for the last 50 years, they have done a lot in re, space travel, that the public will never know about, not for a long while, anyway

LOL You can admit they've lied a little about a little bit. Or so that's what you call it... But it's ALOT. And doesn't that imply they CAN and DO lie?  And your numbers are off. The new stats are in and 50% of the American population believes in Aliens.  Not 95 to 5 as you claim. Sadly.... those like yourself that refuse to accept the state of the planet will lag behind big time in transcendence. I got my stats from NY Post. What about you?  https://nypost.com/2017/12/08/half-of-humans-believe-in-alien-life-study-says/  or would you prefer huffpost?  https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/new-survey-shows-nearly-half-of-americans-believe-in_us_59824c11e4b03d0624b0abe4

Edited January 25, 2019 by Mystify