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Intimidating Books

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LucidElement
On 1/23/2019 at 4:33 PM, L.A.T.1961 said:

Artemis by Andy Weir, expected to like it after seeing the film Martian, based on his book, but only managed the first 30 pages. That was about 12 months ago and not looked at it since.  

That’s funny, I came across that book on shelves and there was a big gasp about it in reviews. Something  told me not to buy it, and I didn’t .. guess it was the right call. Lol

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LucidElement
On 1/23/2019 at 4:48 PM, danydandan said:

Movies never live up to the book, and movies ruin how you imagine the book. Although I think The Hobbit trilogy is an exception.

Same goes for video games. 

I'm plowing through The Witcher stories, but all I can think of is Geralt looking like how he does in the Video games.

Are you still p;atom greed dead 2? I’m 68 percent through , love it.. killed 4 legendaries . But in chapter 6.

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LucidElement

I’m reading Blood Memory by Greg Isles . It’s going good.

And after reading these replies I’ve looked into a couple of book titles spoken about, some sound great and others , lets just say , bettter you then me.

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Not A Rockstar
8 hours ago, LucidElement said:

Off topic... can’t believe the refs missed that helmet to helmet and the pass interference . If that was the patriots, there would have been 10 flags thrown lol. Ok, back to the topic at handD. 

But I feel for ya brotha. And I like your logo.

 

Thanks!

It was a disappointment, and with 2 refs standing right there facing it and hearing it, and with Sean screaming and pointing, they did not throw a flag. I am not sure if it was missed. But, idk. Still, bad calls happen. Blame the refs and scream. if need be. You cannot seriously believe not one ref was looking and watching where the fool BALL was going. I get it if they miss something over here or there, but the BALL is kinda meaningful for at least one ref to be watching sail down into the penalty action.

But, I don't blame the Rams. That is ridiculous, and all the crying now in Atlanta is a disgrace IMO. I think every team has a bad call, or missed one that ruined a game for them. Get over it before someone gets hurt.  

And to bring it back on topic, word is some refs cannot read the Book of Game Rules for the NFL :D 

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Daughter of the Nine Moons
On 1/23/2019 at 4:09 PM, bison said:

Dune, by Frank Herbert.

I don't know if intimidation is the right word for it but it is definitely a book that I have repeatedly and unsuccessfully attempted to read  

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Sir Wearer of Hats
On 24/01/2019 at 9:19 AM, Piney said:

I've read all the books so many times I lost count. Frank's not Brian's. Brian's suck

In defence of Brian and Kevin ... it does pick up some things laid down by Frank (such as the Machine Empire, snd Duncan as Kwizatshadderach), UTTERLY messes up the major plot point left by Frank (Matty and Daniel EXPLICITLY and speaking only to each other refer to themselves as Face Dancers) and are far more “spaceships and sandworms” then Dune is. 

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Sir Wearer of Hats

I found Foundation to be hard going on the first read, but loved it on the second.

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Vlad the Mighty

 Foucault's Pendulum., I did have it but gave it away I think. 

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Piney
2 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

In defence of Brian and Kevin ... it does pick up some things laid down by Frank (such as the Machine Empire, snd Duncan as Kwizatshadderach), UTTERLY messes up the major plot point left by Frank (Matty and Daniel EXPLICITLY and speaking only to each other refer to themselves as Face Dancers) and are far more “spaceships and sandworms” then Dune is. 

That's what got me so mad.

Matty and Daniel were Face Dancers  who stored up thousands of memories and gained sentience and the Honored Matre's enemy was the group of Face Dancers who they were part of. Not the former Machine Empire. But they also portrayed Murbella as being more immature and not as wise and Murbella's daughters as twits. 

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Sir Wearer of Hats
2 minutes ago, Piney said:

That's what got me so mad.

Matty and Daniel were Face Dancers  who stored up thousands of memories and gained sentience and the Honored Matre's enemy was the group of Face Dancers who they were part of. Not the former Machine Empire. But they also portrayed Murbella as being more immature and not as wise and Murbella's daughters as twits. 

They could have easily worked “Omnus” into the plot even while keeping Matty and Daniel as Face Dancers, The Honoured Matres we’re running from the Machines, voila - Omnus. Matty and Daniel think they’re important but they’re functions of the evolution of humanity - all our sins remembered and repayed. Omnus is the ultimate end, humanity forgiving its children and those children forgiving them.

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Piney
2 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

They could have easily worked “Omnus” into the plot even while keeping Matty and Daniel as Face Dancers, The Honoured Matres we’re running from the Machines, voila - Omnus. Matty and Daniel think they’re important but they’re functions of the evolution of humanity - all our sins remembered and repayed. Omnus is the ultimate end, humanity forgiving its children and those children forgiving them.

Kinda Battlestar Galactacky! I don't think the Machines coming back into the picture was in Frank's mind. 

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Sir Wearer of Hats
9 minutes ago, Piney said:

Kinda Battlestar Galactacky! I don't think the Machines coming back into the picture was in Frank's mind. 

The reference to the machines chasing the HM suggests a seed being planted to me, but the idea of “the last threat” foreseen by The God Worm being something we did to ourselves (Face Dancers, Machines, Keith Richards) fits. 

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Piney
7 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

The reference to the machines chasing the HM suggests a seed being planted to me, but the idea of “the last threat” foreseen by The God Worm being something we did to ourselves (Face Dancers, Machines, Keith Richards) fits. 

I think Frank intended it to be a group of Tleilax creations run by Face Dancers with thousands of absorbed memories and some of their own creations.  Why would a Machine Empire have to breed Futars? Diseases?  They could just build "Terminators". :lol:

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Sir Wearer of Hats
1 minute ago, Piney said:

I think Frank intended it to be a group of Tleilax creations run by Face Dancers with thousands of absorbed memories and some of their own creations.  Why would a Machine Empire have to breed Futars? Diseases?  They could just build "Terminators". :lol:

OHH EVIL reflections of thr BG and Paul and “other memory”, works for me. 

Building to a future where humanity is free of the past and protected from the future (invisible to precognition). 

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Piney
17 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said:

OHH EVIL reflections of thr BG and Paul and “other memory”, works for me. 

 

Think about this. Knowing Frank's brilliance, I think mankind's first threat was the machines but it's second threat was our manipulations of genetics and nature.

This was the man who created a working self contained ecosystem (biosphere) when a team at NASA couldn't. :yes:

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Sir Wearer of Hats
26 minutes ago, Piney said:

Think about this. Knowing Frank's brilliance, I think mankind's first threat was the machines but it's second threat was our manipulations of genetics and nature.

This was the man who created a working self contained ecosystem (biosphere) when a team at NASA couldn't. :yes:

Man's inherent desire to be controlled/let someone else make the decisions was always the problem for Herbert (there's a lovely clip of him on YouTube calling Nixon the best President you ever had because he showed how fallible the office was), first that resulted in the Machine Uprising (we created machines because we were lazy, eventually we were so lazy we let them think for us) which was defeated by man's expression of self determination, only for that to be corrupted into the Imperial system by the forces of commerce and sex (the Guild and the Bene Gesserit). Then we got the era of Prescient Emperors, who broke those previous two controls, while once again shackling man to a powerful demagogue. The last demagogue did his damnedest to make sure all of humanity never fell under the heel of another demagogue. 

That leaves the question though - has humanity learnt it's lesson? Herbert had a low opinion of the common humanity. But he was also fundamentally optimistic. Man, to Herbert, will never become Star Trek's enlightened socialists, but it'd also never become the Warhammer 40k single, easily replaceable cog, in a system that's forgotten why it exists in the first place. 

 

You're right, the first threat was the machines we created to do the thinking for us, the second threat was the god we attempted to create to do the thinking for us (the Kwitasahadderach (it's too late in the evening to look the correct spilling up). the third threat then … would be the result of us thinking for ourselves. Face Dancers are mostly human.....

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Jodie.Lynne

The Lord of the Rings trilogy.  Took me forever and a day to get through them

"Frodo was tired from carrying the ring, Carrying the ring was a strain for Frodo that made him tired. Sam was worried that Frodo was too tired from carrying the ring; the ring that weighed him down and made him tired..."

I don't know if it was Tolkien's design, but I was as exhausted as frigging Frodo, just from reading how tired he was.

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third_eye

For myself, among Tolkien's many tomes , it was The Silmarillion that was the hardest to get through.
 

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The Silmarillion is a collection of mythopoeic works by English writer J. R. R. Tolkien, edited and published posthumously by his son, Christopher Tolkien, ...
Pages‎: ‎365
Editor‎: ‎Christopher Tolkien‎; with ‎Guy Gavriel K...
Cover artist‎: ‎J. R. R. Tolkien‎ (device)
Preceded by‎: ‎The Father Christmas Letters

 

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