Careful_perspective Posted January 25, 2019 #26 Share Posted January 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, joc said: Read my lips... TRUMP IS A LOSER!!!!!!!!! Calm down friend! I think he can still turn it around! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted January 25, 2019 #27 Share Posted January 25, 2019 3 minutes ago, Careful_perspective said: Calm down friend! I think he can still turn it around! I don't care...I staked MY support on him NOT having a George Bush ReadMyLips moment... I know I would have stood my ground on the line I drew in the sand! I also know @Piney is not a staunch Trump supporter...but by god... I also know Heaven and Hell would've gone to Hell before Piney would have crossed that line! Piney for President!!!! 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+joc Posted January 26, 2019 #28 Share Posted January 26, 2019 2 hours ago, sci-nerd said: It was a hopeless venture to begin with. But he had to show his voters that he'd give it all he got. I've tried similar with my kids. Going into hopeless endeavours just to show them you will fight for them, and then stop, when even they can see it's pointless. Clever. This wasn't that! Not clever!!! S. T. U. P. I. D. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted January 26, 2019 #29 Share Posted January 26, 2019 18 minutes ago, joc said: Read my lips... TRUMP IS A LOSER!!!!!!!!! 16 minutes ago, Careful_perspective said: Calm down friend! I think he can still turn it around! Don't you get it? The federal workers get paid, trump gets to make the SOTU address on schedule, if they don't reach a deal then the government shuts back down. This is a political triple and trump has a man on third. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted January 26, 2019 #30 Share Posted January 26, 2019 48 minutes ago, seanjo said: The way I read it, he has reopened the government so he can negotiate with the dems, if they won't give him the money then he may take other action. They won't give him the money for a barrier, no way. If he declares an emergency at the border, they've already got the judge chosen and the legal injunction written. It would be challenged in minutes. It would have to go all the way to SCOTUS and be shot down, IF it can be. I wish he'd deploy a couple of Divisions on the Border and shut down the Cartels for awhile. If he did, he could negotiate with THEM to get an honorable deal for keeping the trash out. I can see now that it's time to stop playing the pointless voting game and start planning and training in earnest for what comes next. I'll be DAMNED if those scummy b******* will ever put a boot on my neck. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted January 26, 2019 #31 Share Posted January 26, 2019 24 minutes ago, joc said: Read my lips... TRUMP IS A LOSER!!!!!!!!! He just gave away 2020. He might as well not even run. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted January 26, 2019 #32 Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 minute ago, OverSword said: Don't you get it? The federal workers get paid, trump gets to make the SOTU address on schedule, if they don't reach a deal then the government shuts back down. This is a political triple and trump has a man on third. Fox News...is that you?... This can't be spun into anything great bud,i'm sorry but the dude and his party just had their bluff called... Their poker face has been lost now,they just got pantsed in front of the nation... Mark my words Trump threw a massive tantrum at his cabinet after this! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted January 26, 2019 Author #33 Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 hour ago, susieice said: They all do that We'll have to wait and see where negotiations takes this. ...its not gonna end politically well for president Trump thats where this is going. there will be no wall, just better boarder security. Pelosi looks like she's in charge not Trump. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted January 26, 2019 #34 Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) At the moment this looks like a loss for The Donald. But ... the only real flack he copped for the shutdown was folks not getting paid. I reckon he’s going to get them paid, make sure they get paid “if” the government shuts down again and then shut down the government again. Edited January 26, 2019 by Sir Wearer of Hats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted January 26, 2019 #35 Share Posted January 26, 2019 25 minutes ago, joc said: Piney for President!!!! "First we kill all the lawyers"- William Shakespeare 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted January 26, 2019 #36 Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: At the moment this looks like a loss for The Donald. But ... the only real flack he copped for the shutdown was folks not getting paid. I reckon he’s going to get them paid, make sure they get paid “if” the government shuts down again and then shut down the government again. Agreed. Who knows where this will go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted January 26, 2019 #37 Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) lol, will talk in 3 weeks, i wonder can trump issue an eo, that makes sure 800k workers are paid during next gvmnt shutdown , but members of the house and congress will not get paid, instead. including the president, after all it is their fault they can't do their jobs, not 800k workers who actually do their jobs. Edited January 26, 2019 by aztek 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted January 26, 2019 #38 Share Posted January 26, 2019 6 minutes ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: At the moment this looks like a loss for The Donald. But ... the only real flack he copped for the shutdown was folks not getting paid. I reckon he’s going to get them paid, make sure they get paid “if” the government shuts down again and then shut down the government again. "Perception"... Dude just got shoved to the ground,and Nancy kicked sand in his face! He's already REALLY toned down that BIG BEAUTIFUL WALL talk...he'll walk away with a 100 yd roll of garden fence at this rate. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted January 26, 2019 Author #39 Share Posted January 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, aztek said: lol, will talk in 3 weeks, i wonder can trump issue an eo, that makes sure 800k workers are paid during next gvmnt shutdown , but members of the house and congress will not get paid, instead. including the president, after all it is their fault they can't do their jobs, not 800k workers who actually do their jobs. sorry maybe i don't know a lot about the political system in your country but if Trump issues an EO to pay the federal workers then why would he shut government down?what advantage would he get... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Careful_perspective Posted January 26, 2019 #40 Share Posted January 26, 2019 This is just one set-back, I am still thinking positive. This video really captured it for me, it's only 6 minutes, worth the watch. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted January 26, 2019 #41 Share Posted January 26, 2019 38 minutes ago, joc said: I also know @Piney is not a staunch Trump supporter.. Just for the record. I hate Bernie and Hillary more. ..........and I don't even want to look at Warren, or hear her speak..... 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted January 26, 2019 #42 Share Posted January 26, 2019 (edited) Pelosi isnt going to give Trump his State of Union address until funding is assured for 2019. It's a dangling carrot that Trump can't resist. https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pelosi-state-union-not-planned-yet?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark Edited January 26, 2019 by Hankenhunter 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted January 26, 2019 #43 Share Posted January 26, 2019 21 minutes ago, CrimsonKing said: This can't be spun into anything great bud,i'm sorry but the dude and his party just had their bluff called... I disagree. Now he gets to get on TV in front of the entire world and spin his narrative and point fingers while telling what will lead to another shut down in a week. It's a huge political win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted January 26, 2019 #44 Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 minute ago, OverSword said: I disagree. Now he gets to get on TV in front of the entire world and spin his narrative and point fingers while telling what will lead to another shut down in a week. It's a huge political win. And then you woke up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted January 26, 2019 Author #45 Share Posted January 26, 2019 2 hours ago, OverSword said: This reminds me of the time GHWB said read my lips, no new taxes and then because the democrats wouldn't budge on a deal he did what he had to do for the people relying on a federal paycheck Trump has broken a lot of promises when it comes to his wall. he did try thou. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted January 26, 2019 #46 Share Posted January 26, 2019 11 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: sorry maybe i don't know a lot about the political system in your country but if Trump issues an EO to pay the federal workers then why would he shut government down?what advantage would he get... like i said will talk in 3 weeks 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonKing Posted January 26, 2019 #47 Share Posted January 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, Careful_perspective said: This is just one set-back, I am still thinking positive. This video really captured it for me, it's only 6 minutes, worth the watch. A MASSIVE wave of first time voters which of about 70% will be voting Democrat this next cycle...The Republicans can't afford to lose 3rd party voters AT ALL! With Republicans getting these kinda "victories "...good luck to them holding onto any who voted Republican last time instead of a 3rd party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted January 26, 2019 #48 Share Posted January 26, 2019 31 minutes ago, Captain Risky said: sorry maybe i don't know a lot about the political system in your country but if Trump issues an EO to pay the federal workers then why would he shut government down?what advantage would he get... He says he doesn't want to go to that extreme but he hasn't ruled it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unusual Tournament Posted January 26, 2019 Author #49 Share Posted January 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Careful_perspective said: Calm down friend! I think he can still turn it around! i wonder if he really can. it looks like Pelosi will grant president Trump the state of the Union speech after all. it will be scrutinised for any clues to his thinking. but I'm guessing Trump will tone his wall rhetoric down and seek a boarder security compromised instead. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted January 26, 2019 #50 Share Posted January 26, 2019 33 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said: Pelosi isnt going to give Trump his State of Union address until funding is assured for 2019. It's a dangling carrot that Trump can't resist. https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/pelosi-state-union-not-planned-yet?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark He doesn't need her to give it. He just won't do it in the House if it comes to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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