the13bats Posted February 7, 2019 #1 Share Posted February 7, 2019 I wonder if anyone might know what this symbol is/means i see the crown but the odd thing under it gas me curious any ideas? Many thanks, Cheers b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted February 7, 2019 #2 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Looks like a stylized letter to me, you might have better luck dating it by the design of the Crown, looks unique to a specific period to me but I am not all that knowledgeable on that front ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted February 7, 2019 #3 Share Posted February 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, the13bats said: I wonder if anyone might know what this symbol is/means i see the crown but the odd thing under it gas me curious any ideas? Many thanks, Cheers b Some sort of craftsman's mark. What's it on? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted February 7, 2019 #4 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Metal obviously, if its as old as it seems to be, most probably silver from the sheen ... ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted February 7, 2019 #5 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Just now, seanjo said: Could be pewter... Hard to say, I know pewter so that thought did cross my mind, need more info on the size to get a gauge on how far the flash is from the object, but currently I'm leaning towards recently burnished silver as old pewter doesn't have that kind of reflective quality, that is of course if it is something old ~ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted February 7, 2019 #6 Share Posted February 7, 2019 It'll be a manufacturer's mark, but more than that I couldn't say. If it's silver it ought have an assize mark on it as well. Be useful to see a pic of the actual item, and know whether there are any other marks? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted February 7, 2019 #7 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Just now, Essan said: It'll be a manufacturer's mark, but more than that I couldn't say. If it's silver it ought have an assize mark on it as well. Be useful to see a pic of the actual item, and know whether there are any other marks? My data is being throttled on my account so I can't get google to trawl for designs of stamped crowns designs for reference ... no possibility that it could a seal of some sort ? ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted February 7, 2019 #8 Share Posted February 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, third_eye said: . no possibility that it could a seal of some sort ? It's definitely a maker's mark. I use to have whole books on them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Smoke aLot Posted February 7, 2019 #9 Share Posted February 7, 2019 43 minutes ago, third_eye said: Looks like a stylized letter to me, you might have better luck dating it by the design of the Crown, looks unique to a specific period to me but I am not all that knowledgeable on that front ~ Yeah it looks like initials. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted February 7, 2019 #10 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Just now, Piney said: It's definitely a maker's mark. I use to have whole books on them. The crown does give it some sort of significance surely, again assuming if it is something back from the 18th century or older ... ~ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted February 7, 2019 #11 Share Posted February 7, 2019 1 minute ago, third_eye said: The crown does give it some sort of significance surely, again assuming if it is something back from the 18th century or older ... ~ Not really. They were common. Not like the Iron Tiger dragon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted February 7, 2019 #12 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Just now, Piney said: Not really. They were common. Not like the Iron Tiger dragon. hmmmmm ... I guess I was too caught up with it being something official or a seal, I am not too sure that crowns were being widely used by anybody common though, again that is if this is something from those times ~ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted February 7, 2019 #13 Share Posted February 7, 2019 1 minute ago, third_eye said: hmmmmm ... I guess I was too caught up with it being something official or a seal, I am not too sure that crowns were being widely used by anybody common though, again that is if this is something from those times ~ It was common from the 17th to 20th Centuries for metalwork. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesjr191 Posted February 7, 2019 #14 Share Posted February 7, 2019 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted February 7, 2019 Author #15 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Sorry i wasnt trying to be mysterious about it, Its a sterling ( alleged and stamped, never tested ) skull ring, its about 10 years old came from Thailand, I never much liked the stamp on the ring and going to fill it in but curious if it has a meaning, if its just the artist mark, pretty ego driven to stamp it right there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted February 7, 2019 #16 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Just now, Piney said: It was common from the 17th to 20th Centuries for metalwork. Curiously enough I have been looking into the life of the people in the Royal Courts of the day ~ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted February 7, 2019 #17 Share Posted February 7, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, the13bats said: I never much liked the stamp on the ring and going to fill it in but curious if it has a meaning, if its just the artist mark, pretty ego driven to stamp it right there. costume jewellery, don't mind it too much, it means nothing ~ Edited February 7, 2019 by third_eye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted February 7, 2019 #18 Share Posted February 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, third_eye said: costume jewellery ~ Well, whatdaya expect from the West? In the 90s you were still killed for putting a dragon-star symbol on a blade if your were not a Iron Tiger monk. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted February 7, 2019 #19 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Just now, Piney said: Well, whatdaya expect from the West? In the 90s you were still killed for putting a dragon-star symbol on a blade if your were not a Iron Tiger monk. Well, we do take our metal crafts very seriously ~ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted February 7, 2019 Author #20 Share Posted February 7, 2019 I didnt know silver was considered costume, So then its likely just a letter C or G....yawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHaYap Posted February 7, 2019 #21 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Just now, the13bats said: I didnt know silver was considered costume, So then its likely just a letter C or G....yawn. If this was made in Thailand, yeah, it is roadside peddler costume jewellery ... designed to suck tourist dollars ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essan Posted February 7, 2019 #22 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Okay, now I can see what it's on, then it's not a maker's mark. Not sure what, if anything, it is meant to represent. Possibly just someone of meaning to the person who commissioned the piece (assuming not mass produced) or maybe it's a gang/club emblem? I would provisionally date it to around late 20th century. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted February 7, 2019 Author #23 Share Posted February 7, 2019 6 minutes ago, third_eye said: If this was made in Thailand, yeah, it is roadside peddler costume jewellery ... designed to suck tourist dollars ~ From the 18th century and of significance to street junk...i guess we never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted February 7, 2019 Author #24 Share Posted February 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Essan said: Okay, now I can see what it's on, then it's not a maker's mark. Not sure what, if anything, it is meant to represent. Possibly just someone of meaning to the person who commissioned the piece (assuming not mass produced) or maybe it's a gang/club emblem? I would provisionally date it to around late 20th century. Ive had it about 8 or 10 years and no clue when it was made. It crossed my mind it might be a symbol of something im not into.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted February 7, 2019 Author #25 Share Posted February 7, 2019 Its not plated. Lol, nothing worn off, i was dumping powder in my shoes its on my hands and the ring, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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