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What consequences for those that spread hate?

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Golden Duck
6 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

Hmm.. very interesting. Thanks for that Golden Duck. 

So inciting hatred against an identifiable social group is NOT in itself a 'hate crime' ? 

How far to the first amendment protections of the First Amendment extend is an interesting question.  Young Sandmann from Covington College may test them.  Another case that did was The Hit Man's Handbook.  I'm sure others can give better insight.

In Australia, we have hate speech laws.  One argument I've heard against them is that we people really think is now hidden.  Another is "sticks and stones".

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Tatetopa

Well it is an interesting thread you have started andthen.  Who spreads hate and what are the consequences?  I don't know what the personal consequences might be to those individuals, but to our nation, it is dire.  There are two major factions in this turmoil and maybe a few others.  We are looking for reasons to distrust , dislike, and think the worst of people in other factions.  None of the factions are innocent of this incitement.

You have stated on more than one occasion where this leads; to armed conflict.  I am a little bit fuzzy on who I should hate enough to take up arms against.  You seem to be a person of honor, how could I take up arms against an honest man or his family? How could I hate anybody who loves America enough to want to give our children and grandchildren the same chance we had to work out our own destinies?  

It will not be popular but some people must stand in the middle and refute all false claims whether from our "side" or the other.  Somebody must represent the even hand of justice  for all or we will not flourish..  Some people will have to be absolute in their adherence to the truth no matter where it leads.

 

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Swede
12 hours ago, Piney said:

@joc Already wanted me to run under the Ass Kicker ticket. :yes:

 

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Liquid Gardens
5 hours ago, RoofGardener said:

Well, in part because of their actions, or perceived actions.

Well, then you've answered the question of why there is so much 'hate' for Trump.

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Lord Harry
17 hours ago, Aquila King said:

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Childish uneducated nonsense. But what else should one expect from an admitted socialist. 

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RoofGardener
9 minutes ago, Lord Harry said:

Childish uneducated nonsense. But what else should one expect from an admitted socialist. 

Actually, the cartoon is quite accurate. People will frequently respond to a call to nationalism, and suffer deprivation with greater tolerance. 

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aztek

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Myles
6 hours ago, Swede said:

 

Love Rory.

One of the best guitarists most people don't know about.

 

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Aquila King
1 hour ago, Lord Harry said:

Childish uneducated nonsense. But what else should one expect from an admitted socialist. 

Care for an intelligent rebuttal? Or are you simply content with baseless assertions?

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14 hours ago, Golden Duck said:

Since when were the FBI "liberal"?

Apparently, since 2008 or so.

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16 hours ago, Golden Duck said:

If truth becomes profitable

You may have stumbled into the key to the whole problem here.  Truth, it seems, is no longer desired, let alone profitable.

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Swede
4 hours ago, Myles said:

Love Rory.

One of the best guitarists most people don't know about.

 

Indeed so. When Hendrix was asked what is was was like to be considered the foremost blues/rock guitarist, Hendrix replied "ask Gallagher".

The cut was provided in regards to Piney's "Ass Kicker" comment. The framework/attitude/execution of "Shinkicker" struck me as apropos.

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Lord Harry
5 hours ago, Aquila King said:

Care for an intelligent rebuttal? Or are you simply content with baseless assertions?

If I engaged in an intelligent rebuttal, it would go way over you simple head.  So I decided to descend to your level in order for you to understand.

But...as nationalism is the natural state of man, the earth being divided into different tribes and nations based upon ethnicity, language,  and common culture, it is fair to say that any who oppose nationalism are engaged in an unhealthy level of non-self altruism.

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CrimsonKing

Heard Jussie's whole story has been declared fabricated!...

I understand our laws and how they are written...that said,things like this shouldn't just be allowed as a walk away slap on the wrist "filing a false report"...

Someone falsely claiming someone robbed them is one thing,but things like THIS can cause all kinds of other trouble for other people!...

This little piece of s*** should be fired from his television show and outcast from decent society.

We need to bring back public shaming for s*** like this!

As i told AT,he should be locked up in the center of Chicago for 3 days and any and all passers by should be able to launch rotten eggs,fruit,and veggies at him relentlessly!

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Aquila King
17 minutes ago, Lord Harry said:

If I engaged in an intelligent rebuttal, it would go way over you simple head.  So I decided to descend to your level in order for you to understand.

Lol, try me. :rolleyes:

17 minutes ago, Lord Harry said:

But...as nationalism is the natural state of man, the earth being divided into different tribes and nations based upon ethnicity, language,  and common culture, it is fair to say that any who oppose nationalism are engaged in an unhealthy level of non-self altruism.

Nationalism is just tribalism on the national scale, and tribalism is a mentality that only barbaric simple-minded cavemen engage in.

If you're incapable of viewing humanity as a whole, and working towards the best interests of everyone, then that's your problem bud. 

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skliss
12 hours ago, CrimsonKing said:

This little piece of s*** should be fired from his television show and outcast from decent society.

There is a rumor out there that his character was being cut and this may have been a way to bring attention to himself, may be thinking the studio would change their minds...? I hate to think someone would fake this.

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F3SS

I just heard these 2 suspects are Nigerian. I guess if they're at least 1/1024th white the media will have their narrative justified. I mean, that's all it takes these days.

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truthseeker68

The amount of hypocrisy from the Libby's is astounding to me. If this guy had been a Trump supporter wearing a MAGA hat and was jumped by 2 black men and beaten near death...the Media and the Lib's would try to spin it somehow to make the him the BAD guy in the situation and that he should be thrown in jail for harassing those 2 poor black men who were just out to buy Grandma some milk.

The only recourse they have is to spew more "HATE" towards anyone who supports the President...or who supports this country. They claim Trump is racist, and numerous other things....yet they can show NO real proof of any such thing.? Except....they "FEEL" that way....or they're triggered...either way they have no real justification. They simply don't like anyone who doesn't "FEEL" the way they do.

If they can't win an argument with FACTS then they simply attack and call you a Racist...or NAZI...and call the President names. It truly is sad they are so delusional.

If Trump were to completely wipe out or National Debt...Bring about World peace...and provide new homes for everyone without...and feed the Homeless in person. They would STILL find some excuse to call him a bad President among other things and declare any supporter a Racist Nazi. 

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Tatetopa

The amount of hypocrisy and fake moral outrage from both sides should astound you.   If liberals and conservatives REALLY never did what they say they never do, this world would be paradise.

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F3SS
1 hour ago, truthseeker68 said:

The amount of hypocrisy from the Libby's is astounding to me. If this guy had been a Trump supporter wearing a MAGA hat and was jumped by 2 black men and beaten near death...the Media and the Lib's would try to spin it somehow to make the him the BAD guy in the situation and that he should be thrown in jail for harassing those 2 poor black men who were just out to buy Grandma some milk.

The only recourse they have is to spew more "HATE" towards anyone who supports the President...or who supports this country. They claim Trump is racist, and numerous other things....yet they can show NO real proof of any such thing.? Except....they "FEEL" that way....or they're triggered...either way they have no real justification. They simply don't like anyone who doesn't "FEEL" the way they do.

If they can't win an argument with FACTS then they simply attack and call you a Racist...or NAZI...and call the President names. It truly is sad they are so delusional.

If Trump were to completely wipe out or National Debt...Bring about World peace...and provide new homes for everyone without...and feed the Homeless in person. They would STILL find some excuse to call him a bad President among other things and declare any supporter a Racist Nazi. 

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F3SS

Not only didn't this idiot get attacked or beat up by someone and he just said they were white Trump supporters...His attackers were black. But wait... They were all in on it. It was staged!

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aztek
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The two brothers being questioned over the Jussie Smollett attack are actors Abimbola 'Abel' and Olabinjo 'Ola' Osundairo, DailyMail.com can exclusively reveal. The pair were picked up by police at Chicago O'Hare Airport on Wednesday as they arrived back in America after visiting family in Nigeria to be questioned over the January 29 attack involving the star. Family say they went to Africa on January 29, hours after the Smollett attack. Ola appeared on Empire in 2015 and both brothers have had minor roles on Chicago PD. Smollett, who has been accused of staging the attack to save his job on the Fox show, follows their joint Instagram account and, according to their lawyer, sometimes goes to the gym with them. In his reports to the police, Smollett has said that he could not distinguish any features about his attackers' appearance. The brothers' names are also included on a list of evidence that was left at their home after Chicago PD officers ransacked it on Thursday and the pair are listed in public records as the tenants of that house. Before returning to the US on Wednesday, they shared photographs and videos on Instagram of their time in Nigeria. Neither has been charged and Chicago Police Department has until 5.45pm on Friday to arrest them or release them.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html

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susieice
1 hour ago, F3SS said:

Not only didn't this idiot get attacked or beat up by someone and he just said they were white Trump supporters...His attackers were black. But wait... They were all in on it. It was staged!

He did say that. And the whole MAGA thing.

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susieice

The two brothers have been arrested. Police tore their home up and found some items but there is still no evidence that they perpetrated an attack against the actor or that he didn't plan this with two other men, whatever they mean by that.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/15/suspects-arrested-in-jussie-smollett-case/

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Just now, susieice said:

The two brothers have been arrested. Police tore their home up and found some items but there is still no evidence that they perpetrated an attack against the actor or that he didn't plan this with two other men, whatever they mean by that.

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2019/02/15/suspects-arrested-in-jussie-smollett-case/

Okay, that CAN'T be good news for Jussie.  How ridiculous is it that he'd ID them as white?  I'm just glad that no one got caught up in the rhetoric and went out and took revenge for what happened to their idol.

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