macqdor Posted February 13, 2019 #1 Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) Surviving a Poltergeist Episode #23 @papageorge1 Edited February 13, 2019 by macqdor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted February 13, 2019 #2 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Sounds like a confirmation bias party. You guys have fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted February 13, 2019 #3 Share Posted February 13, 2019 12 minutes ago, sci-nerd said: Sounds like a confirmation bias party. I am not interested in having any biases much less having them confirmed. I am though interested in collecting all information and argumentation from all sides and forming my best unbiased understanding. if my unbiased understanding is not liked by science nerds when it conflicts with their worldview I don’t see that as relevant to my truth search. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macqdor Posted February 13, 2019 Author #4 Share Posted February 13, 2019 @sci-nerd Some people like to stay informed. It's an interview. Q and A Judge after u listen. Not b4. That would be bias ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted February 13, 2019 #5 Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, macqdor said: Judge after u listen. Not b4. That would be bias If it's real, I know what it is. But 999 of 1000 times (or more) it's not real. I just feel sorry for those who experience the real thing, not knowing what it is. And don't bother asking what it is. You will not agree anyway. Edited February 13, 2019 by sci-nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macqdor Posted February 13, 2019 Author #6 Share Posted February 13, 2019 @sci-nerd Quote If it's real, I know what it is. But 999 of 1000 times (or more) it's not real. I just feel sorry for those who experience the real thing, not knowing what it is. And don't bother asking what it is. You will not agree anyway you should start a new thread detailing what you think this phenomena is. Not mine. Just "geist" reports in general. I'll meet u there. We all have our theory and ideas. Odds are we're probably all wrong. Doesn't hurt to discuss this maturely and openly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted February 13, 2019 #7 Share Posted February 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, macqdor said: you should start a new thread detailing what you think this phenomena is. What's the point, when no one will believe it? I have no need for people to agree with me. I don't really care. I just pity people who get scared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macqdor Posted February 13, 2019 Author #8 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Hahaha true. @sci-nerd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted February 13, 2019 #9 Share Posted February 13, 2019 If you truly understand the universe, down to the quantum details, you understand everything. @macqdor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted February 13, 2019 #10 Share Posted February 13, 2019 49 minutes ago, sci-nerd said: If it's real, I know what it is. I don’t follow. Are saying you know what real phenomena is? And you don’t want to share because no one will believe?? I’m even more confused now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted February 13, 2019 #11 Share Posted February 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, sci-nerd said: If you truly understand the universe, down to the quantum details, you understand everything. @macqdor No scientist claims to know everything yet. So we still need to be open to new observations, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted February 13, 2019 #12 Share Posted February 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: I don’t follow. Are saying you know what real phenomena is? And you don’t want to share because no one will believe?? I’m even more confused now. I'm saying IF it exists, it is rare. And that those rare instances can be explained in a way very few people will accept. It is a scientific explanation, but it's still considered fringe. Not fringe because it challenges any theories, but because it touches existentialism. 6 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: No scientist claims to know everything yet. So we still need to be open to new observations, right? I agree we should never stop researching. Never. But when you have a TOE, and it answers everything you can imagine, you might want to give it a little respect. But we should never stop researching. Never settle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papageorge1 Posted February 13, 2019 #13 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 minute ago, sci-nerd said: I'm saying IF it exists, it is rare. And that those rare instances can be explained in a way very few people will accept. It is a scientific explanation, but it's still considered fringe. Not fringe because it challenges any theories, but because it touches existentialism. I agree we should never stop researching. Never. But when you have a TOE, and it answers everything you can imagine, you might want to give it a little respect. But we should never stop researching. Never settle. So you won’t share your thoughts but will criticize those who do??? And if there ever is a TOE I think real things like ghosts and poltergeists must be explainable within it. And the universe may even be a thought of God/Brahman and not compelled by general rules we notice. At this point let’s study the poltergeist as one part of this amazing universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zep73 Posted February 13, 2019 #14 Share Posted February 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: So you won’t share your thoughts but will criticize those who do??? I only debunk where it is due. 4 minutes ago, papageorge1 said: And if there ever is a TOE I think real things like ghosts and poltergeists must be explainable within it. "They" are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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