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Communism , Totalitarianism & Atheism

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Noteverythingisaconspiracy
22 hours ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said:

So claims millions of other people, yet those same people can't seem to agree on what it is. 

I would have thought that a God that can make the universe can also make a book that isn't open to all kinds of interpretations ?

@RavenHawk are you ever going to adress this question ?

God found the room to give detailed dietary instructions and long lists of genealogy, but he never could be bothered to insert a single line like "Don't have slaves" ?

22 hours ago, danydandan said:

Yeah but.............eh. Well ok then.......... Insert deflection here and carry on.

Looks like he choose the ignore option instead.

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jmccr8
1 hour ago, RavenHawk said:

And how long has slavery existed?  Can you  list the empires of the past that used slavery?

Hi RavenHawk

considering slavery still exists in this day I would have to say quite some time.

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Aquila King
13 minutes ago, jmccr8 said:

Hi RavenHawk

considering slavery still exists in this day I would have to say quite some time.

jmccr8

Not to mention a lot of other systems in place even in modern nations that can seem slavery-ish in sense. Like for instance all the US government workers who were required to work during the previous shutdown for no pay.

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RavenHawk
2 hours ago, Aquila King said:

You were very clearly justifying it:

 

Like I said, acknowledgement is not justification, but I really don’t expect you to know that.

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RavenHawk
3 hours ago, Rlyeh said:

Are you trying to say if something has been practiced for a long time it must be respectable?  Unbelievable.

You live in your own fantasy world.

Well, hello!  If it wasn’t respectable back then, then no one would practice it.  If it wasn't respectable then all the great empires in those days wouldn’t have practiced it.  In fact many would have been motivated to invade neighbors to put an end to it.  I don’t recall seeing that done.  Maybe invade neighbors and enslave them.  Earth calling Rlyeh, Earth calling Rlyeh, come back down and live in the real world for a while.

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RavenHawk
3 hours ago, Rlyeh said:

Why should we be concerned if God isn't?

It’s not that GOD isn’t concerned.  He is, that is why he sent his son.  The running of this world is now in our hands.  We no longer have to worry about the wrath of GOD wiping out sinful populations.  A new paradigm was put in place by the Resurrection.

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Jodie.Lynne
6 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

It’s not that GOD isn’t concerned.  He is, that is why he sent his son.  The running of this world is now in our hands.  We no longer have to worry about the wrath of GOD wiping out sinful populations.  A new paradigm was put in place by the Resurrection.

So then, god is inconsequential?

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Aquila King
9 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

We no longer have to worry about the wrath of GOD wiping out sinful populations.

I love how genocide can just be nonchalantly expressed so long as it's God who does it...

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RavenHawk
5 minutes ago, Jodie.Lynne said:

So then, god is inconsequential?

Nope.

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RavenHawk

I am so amazed by the ignorance.  I would consider atheists as intelligent but the behavior I've seen here is so far below that.

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Jodie.Lynne
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4 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

Nope.

Then please, explain your statement.

 

Or do you just prefer to sling insults?

I, myself, am no mind reader, so either enlighten us mere mortals with your meaning, or be still.

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Aquila King
Just now, RavenHawk said:

I am so amazed by the ignorance.  I would consider atheists as intelligent but the behavior I've seen here is so far below that.

I'm so amazed by your complete disregard of objective facts and reality. Though I've come to expect it from you at least.

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RavenHawk
3 minutes ago, Jodie.Lynne said:

Then please, explain your statement.

 

Or do you just prefer to sling insults?

I, myself, am no mind reader, so either enlighten us mere mortals with your meaning, or be still.

This is fncking amazing!  I get hammered because I try to elaborate in a couple of posts.  “why didn’t you just answer yes or no”.  Now that I answered a yes or no question with no, I get hammered for that.  What a bunch of phonies!

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Jodie.Lynne
1 hour ago, Aquila King said:

Not to mention a lot of other systems in place even in modern nations that can seem slavery-ish in sense. Like for instance all the US government workers who were required to work during the previous shutdown for no pay.

What I love is how modern day people will claim that "slavery in those times, wasn't really slavery".

 

To be a slave means: not having the ability to choose what you want to do. Or who you wish to marry. Or where you want to go.

A slave is a person, who is NOT regarded as a person but as a piece of property. 

If a person cannot even choose what clothes they want to wear, or what they want to do with their lives, it doesn't matter how "humane" a Master may be, YOU are still merely a possession. You can be sold, traded, or bartered, all without regard for YOUR wishes.

Wouldn't it have been so much more moral for a "god" to simply state: "DON'T ****ing OWN people! It's WRONG!"

Instead, there is a list of "acceptable" ways to treat slaves. And another set of rules on how to treat non-Hebrew slaves....

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RavenHawk
9 minutes ago, Aquila King said:

I'm so amazed by your complete disregard of objective facts and reality. Though I've come to expect it from you at least.

You should be the last one to talk about having a complete disregard of objective facts and reality.

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GoldenWolf
15 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

I am so amazed by the ignorance.  I would consider atheists as intelligent but the behavior I've seen here is so far below that.

Maybe you're just mistaking the bible as a source of knowledge?

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Noteverythingisaconspiracy
12 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

I am so amazed by the ignorance.  I would consider atheists as intelligent but the behavior I've seen here is so far below that.

Excuse us for not condoning slavery. How very unintelligent of us.

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RavenHawk
2 minutes ago, GoldenWolf said:

Maybe you're just mistaking the bible as a source of knowledge?

It is a source of knowledge whether you believe in it or not.

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Jodie.Lynne
4 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

This is fncking amazing!  I get hammered because I try to elaborate in a couple of posts.  “why didn’t you just answer yes or no”.  Now that I answered a yes or no question with no, I get hammered for that.  What a bunch of phonies!

If you had half the intelligence you claim to have, you would realize that some questions require more than a "yes or No answer".

I asked you to expand on your statement, but rather than do so, you act like a child and throw a tantrum.

I speak for no others on this forum, nor does anyone speak for me. Whatever issues you have with other forumites, do not take out your frustrations on me.

 

Now, would you care to elaborate on the statement I quoted?

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RavenHawk
2 minutes ago, Noteverythingisaconspiracy said:

Excuse us for not condoning slavery. How very unintelligent of us.

I am not condoning slavery.  You have just lost it.

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Noteverythingisaconspiracy
4 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

I am not condoning slavery.  You have just lost it.

I never said you condoned slavery. 

Do you think god was wrong when he gave detailed instructions on how to treat slaves, rather than simply tell people not to have slaves in the first place ?

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GoldenWolf
5 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

I am not condoning slavery.  You have just lost it.

Slavery is condoned in both the old and new testaments.  So if you accept the bible, you condone slavery.

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RavenHawk
3 minutes ago, Jodie.Lynne said:

If you had half the intelligence you claim to have,

I wasn’t commenting on my intelligence. 

 

you would realize that some questions require more than a "yes or No answer".

And in this thread, I started off with expanding on such questions and people didn’t like that.

 

I asked you to expand on your statement,

No, you just asked this:  So then, god is inconsequential?”, which is the type of questions I’ve been expanding on ever since getting into this thread.

 

but rather than do so, you act like a child and throw a tantrum.

No, just showing up the collective hypocrisy.

 

I speak for no others on this forum, nor does anyone speak for me. Whatever issues you have with other forumites, do not take out your frustrations on me.

Nice try.

 

Now, would you care to elaborate on the statement I quoted?

I’ll consider it.

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RavenHawk
10 minutes ago, GoldenWolf said:

Slavery is condoned in both the old and new testaments.  So if you accept the bible, you condone slavery.

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Jodie.Lynne
11 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

I’ll consider it.

oh gee Mr Ravenhawk, sir, please, oh pretty please, give us the benefit of your mighty wisdom!

 

 

Or, just continue to be a pratt. Your choice.

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