Still Waters Posted March 13, 2019 #1 Share Posted March 13, 2019 California Gov. Gavin Newsom announced a moratorium on the death penalty Wednesday, halting more than 700 executions in the state. The executive order grants a reprieve to 737 inmates on the country's largest death row and halts the use of the death penalty in the state, according to the governor's office. "I do not believe that a civilized society can claim to be a leader in the world as long as its government continues to sanction the premeditated and discriminatory execution of its people," Newsom said in prepared remarks on Wednesday. "In short, the death penalty is inconsistent with our bedrock values and strikes at the very heart of what it means to be a Californian." https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/california-gov-gavin-newsom-announces-moratorium-death-penalty/story?id=61647302 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taun Posted March 13, 2019 #2 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Now if we can just get the murderers to stop enacting the death penalty on their victims, we'll really have something to be proud of! 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted March 13, 2019 #3 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Only the victims and / or the victims families should decide after the call has been made. If the family believes justice was once done - this guy has now reversed that. Quote "I do not believe that a civilized society can claim to be a leader in the world as long as its government continues to sanction the premeditated and discriminatory execution of its people," The reason there are so many people on death row is because they are not part of the civilized society. You can not be world leaders as long as you have these murderers in your mist. If you want a civilised society, then get rid of those who murder civilised innocent people. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted March 13, 2019 #4 Share Posted March 13, 2019 wow, you can't beat CA's stupidity, but then what else do you expect from liberals in charge 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Grey Posted March 13, 2019 #5 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Quote "I do not believe that a civilized society can claim to be a leader in the world as long as its government continues to sanction the premeditated and discriminatory execution of its people," In the same State there are marches for the "right" to kill innocent babies. Its celebrated. Are most people >100 IQ? How are so many people so eager to eat up the propaganda without question? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robotic Jew Posted March 13, 2019 #6 Share Posted March 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Dark_Grey said: In the same State there are marches for the "right" to kill innocent babies. Its celebrated. Are most people >100 IQ? How are so many people so eager to eat up the propaganda without question? ugh. severe mischaracterization alert. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnderOTD Posted March 13, 2019 #7 Share Posted March 13, 2019 That’s not controversial at all, if you murder anybody in cold blood, you need to be taken out of society and the gene pool. The less psychopaths on the streets, the better. Then again we can’t be putting innocent people to death for crimes they didn’t commit either. I’m surprised that Cali still had the death penalty. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted March 13, 2019 #8 Share Posted March 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, EnderOTD said: Then again we can’t be putting innocent people to death for crimes they didn’t commit either. I’m surprised that Cali still had the death penalty. when the system is aimed at convictions, and making money in prisons for profit, you get wrongful convictions, 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted March 13, 2019 #9 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Quote "I do not believe that a civilized society can claim to be a leader in the world as long as its government continues to sanction the premeditated and discriminatory execution of its people, apparently who ever wrote the article also does not realize civilized society does not just happen, a society becomes civilized when its members act in a civilized manner, also a fact that some never do and never will, so unless they are removed you can't have a civilized society. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted March 13, 2019 #10 Share Posted March 13, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, EnderOTD said: Then again we can’t be putting innocent people to death for crimes they didn’t commit either. This is a whole different area. With the technology out there today, eg: DNA, better communications between state records, better and newer forensics, the chances are that the person on death row - should be there. If that is not the case, then the governor should be focusing on the cases in doubt, but not cancel those who are not. The majority on death row - are guilty. Those who may be innocent are not the serial killers or mass murderers. There are majority where there is no doubt about their guilt, they should not be getting reprieved. Amnesty talk about the human right to live, shame they can not get that message through to the murderers who do not give a damn about that when they set out to take an innocent childs or persons life. Edited March 13, 2019 by freetoroam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skliss Posted March 13, 2019 #11 Share Posted March 13, 2019 5 hours ago, EnderOTD said: I’m surprised that Cali still had the death penalty. Not only do they still have it, it was recently put to a vote before CA voters who voted not only to keep it but that they needed to move up the time between conviction and execution. The governor swore he would listen to the will of the people. And just like when CA voted down gay marriage their wants and wishes will be ignored. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted March 14, 2019 #12 Share Posted March 14, 2019 In the US you have a higher murder rate than we have here in Canada. Canada doesn't have the death penalty. Ergo... 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted March 14, 2019 #13 Share Posted March 14, 2019 29 minutes ago, Likely Guy said: In the US you have a higher murder rate than we have here in Canada. Canada doesn't have the death penalty. Ergo... Came for this, leaving happy. Well done California. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted March 14, 2019 #14 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said: Came for this, leaving happy. Well done California. Not the initial response I expected. I thought I was going to be called out for being anti-American. But seriously, which country in the world other than Canada, does the US have more in common with? Edit: ...in this regard (capital punishment),not a lot. Edited March 14, 2019 by Likely Guy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hankenhunter Posted March 14, 2019 #15 Share Posted March 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Likely Guy said: Not the initial response I expected. I thought I was going to be called out for being anti-American. But seriously, which country in the world other than Canada, does the US have more in common with? Yes, there are people who deserve to die, but due to overzealous prosecutors, the fact that your income may decide how skilled your defense lawyer may be, plus the obvious bias against coloured people, it's a good thing that they are taking a second look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Likely Guy Posted March 14, 2019 #16 Share Posted March 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hankenhunter said: Yes, there are people who deserve to die, but due to overzealous prosecutors, the fact that your income may decide how skilled your defense lawyer may be, plus the obvious bias against coloured people, it's a good thing that they are taking a second look. Yes there are people that deserve to die, where that line is drawn, I don't know. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raptor Witness Posted March 14, 2019 #17 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I stopped believing in the death penalty when DNA testing started exonerating people on death row. The number of people wrongly convicted is too creepy for me. The state simply has made far too many mistakes to trust their judgment. There are cases that deserve it, but bad prosecutions have destroyed all credibility in most states. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imaginarynumber1 Posted March 14, 2019 #18 Share Posted March 14, 2019 It takes on average something like 16 years to get through the mandatory appeals process for death penalty, anyway. It's not like people are being executed within a year or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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