UM-Bot Posted March 14, 2019 #1 Share Posted March 14, 2019 The new series will explore the subject of UFOs and the potential threat that they might pose to national security. https://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/326236/new-tom-delonge-ufo-docu-series-announced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robotic Jew Posted March 14, 2019 #2 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Tom Delonge is a nut. The show should at least be entertaining and provide adequate opportunities for eye rolls. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nnicolette Posted March 14, 2019 #3 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Personally i think anyone who systematically denies thousands of experiences just because they have shaky preconceptions of what they entail and can be attributed to are nuts. Obviously there has been a bias here ever since the bias was implemented and its sad to see how willingly people shut out things rather than taking a scientific approach. Contrary to whats often stated, full out denial without investigation of the facts is not the least bit scientific or intelligent. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdbuilder Posted March 14, 2019 #4 Share Posted March 14, 2019 National security? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted March 14, 2019 #5 Share Posted March 14, 2019 31 minutes ago, Nnicolette said: Personally i think anyone who systematically denies thousands of experiences just because they have shaky preconceptions of what they entail and can be attributed to are nuts. Obviously there has been a bias here ever since the bias was implemented and its sad to see how willingly people shut out things rather than taking a scientific approach. Contrary to whats often stated, full out denial without investigation of the facts is not the least bit scientific or intelligent. Ive been up too long nerves acting up very overtired so i might not understand correctly, Science doesnt accept or reject it asks for testable evidence and examines it, sure there might not be a single lab of scientists who have yet tested for example bigfoot is an alien, because anecdotal isnt testable evidence, its only proof to some believers. Look at chris obriens work, cattle mulatation are a convuluted mess of alien and human perpetrators, working both solo and in kahoots, so a very small cult following its real no proof required but science waits for evidence where there is none. 1000s of people take blobsquatch or blobufo pics if you want to call me "nuts" because i do not view that trash as evidence, im good with that. Are far as "investigation of the facts" are they really proven facts? The truth? Or more anecdotes and blobs? For example "fact" chris o'brien has studied dead cow remains. However, its not a proven fact aliens killed the cow, so scienceisnt gonna nake a jump aliens were involved, you have to prove evidence. So if im unscientific and lack intelligence because i dont waste time on what i feel is rather obviously tripe im good with that too. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nnicolette Posted March 14, 2019 #6 Share Posted March 14, 2019 39 minutes ago, the13bats said: Ive been up too long nerves acting up very overtired so i might not understand correctly, Science doesnt accept or reject it asks for testable evidence and examines it, sure there might not be a single lab of scientists who have yet tested for example bigfoot is an alien, because anecdotal isnt testable evidence, its only proof to some believers. Look at chris obriens work, cattle mulatation are a convuluted mess of alien and human perpetrators, working both solo and in kahoots, so a very small cult following its real no proof required but science waits for evidence where there is none. 1000s of people take blobsquatch or blobufo pics if you want to call me "nuts" because i do not view that trash as evidence, im good with that. Are far as "investigation of the facts" are they really proven facts? The truth? Or more anecdotes and blobs? For example "fact" chris o'brien has studied dead cow remains. However, its not a proven fact aliens killed the cow, so scienceisnt gonna nake a jump aliens were involved, you have to prove evidence. So if im unscientific and lack intelligence because i dont waste time on what i feel is rather obviously tripe im good with that too. Well that's definitely not even close to what i was implying good try though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minimalists Posted March 14, 2019 #7 Share Posted March 14, 2019 3 hours ago, mdbuilder said: National security? Reading to much Richard Dolan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawken Posted March 14, 2019 #8 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Scientist can be bought and paid for political purposes. Here's an example on Climate Change according to the founder of the Weather Channel. I see that CNN has John Coleman listed as Co-Founder and he had to correct them as Founder. So if scientist can be bought and paid for according to John Coleman, what other things are they being paid for? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted March 14, 2019 #9 Share Posted March 14, 2019 3 hours ago, Nnicolette said: Well that's definitely not even close to what i was implying good try though. You were convoluted, I did the best i could to figure it out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nnicolette Posted March 14, 2019 #10 Share Posted March 14, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, the13bats said: You were convoluted, I did the best i could to figure it out. Claiming a definitive conclusion based solely on opinion of a subject just isn't scientific to me. Edited March 14, 2019 by Nnicolette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted March 14, 2019 #11 Share Posted March 14, 2019 9 minutes ago, Nnicolette said: Claiming a definitive conclusion based solely on opinion of a subject just isn't scientific to me. No its not, but reaching assumptions that people base their conclusion solely on opinion is doing to them what you are damning them of doing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereologist Posted March 14, 2019 #12 Share Posted March 14, 2019 7 hours ago, Nnicolette said: Personally i think anyone who systematically denies thousands of experiences just because they have shaky preconceptions of what they entail and can be attributed to are nuts. Obviously there has been a bias here ever since the bias was implemented and its sad to see how willingly people shut out things rather than taking a scientific approach. Contrary to whats often stated, full out denial without investigation of the facts is not the least bit scientific or intelligent. It might be easy to claim that there are those, that are scoffers, that systematically deny thousands of experiences. There might be a few. The fact is that a lot of experiences doesn't mean much. You also misuse being scientific. You really mean being skeptical which is to make a decision based on an examination of the facts. There is the trouble. There are so few facts to consider. What we have seen with DeLonge is a track record of not providing what they stated they would provide through the TTSA. They promised a lot of videos and came up with a few easily explained and not too interesting videos. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timothy Posted March 14, 2019 #13 Share Posted March 14, 2019 @Nnicolette, forgive my pessimism, but I don’t hold high hopes for anything that comes from DeLonge and co. He doesn’t have a very good track record (besides some of his music), and neither do the threads relating to him and TTSA on UM. I vote that the documentary will be utter BS. Anything more and I’ll be surprised. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsomeGorilla Posted March 15, 2019 #14 Share Posted March 15, 2019 LOL I caught him on Joe Rogan. I can't decide whether the guy is a shill or just crazy. He seems to believe anything that comes his way and just makes up his own 'facts' as he goes along. I can only assume his 'documentary' will be much of the same. Yet another stain on UFO research. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstralHorus Posted March 15, 2019 #15 Share Posted March 15, 2019 4 minutes ago, Not Your Huckleberry said: LOL I caught him on Joe Rogan. I can't decide whether the guy is a shill or just crazy. He seems to believe anything that comes his way and just makes up his own 'facts' as he goes along. I can only assume his 'documentary' will be much of the same. Yet another stain on UFO research. As a avid JRE fan I felt the same, seems to be chasing little green men while on “white girl” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsomeGorilla Posted March 15, 2019 #16 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Yep, 'white girl' is the first thing that popped out to me, too. His delusions and paranoia were pretty classic examples for those that prefer that particular vice. Dude needs help. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Thomson Posted March 15, 2019 #17 Share Posted March 15, 2019 Why would we think UFOs present a threat to our security? They are monitoring the Earth, fixing natural problems to prevent human life loss, and visually staying out of our social business. UFOs are behaving in the most ethical manner one could imagine. They have had thousands of years to threaten us, but they don't. Just leave them alone and focus on being a better human. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted March 15, 2019 #18 Share Posted March 15, 2019 50 minutes ago, David Thomson said: Why would we think UFOs present a threat to our security? They are monitoring the Earth, fixing natural problems to prevent human life loss, and visually staying out of our social business. UFOs are behaving in the most ethical manner one could imagine. They have had thousands of years to threaten us, but they don't. Just leave them alone and focus on being a better human. Is that what you were told during the last probing session? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robotic Jew Posted March 15, 2019 #19 Share Posted March 15, 2019 56 minutes ago, David Thomson said: Why would we think UFOs present a threat to our security? They are monitoring the Earth, fixing natural problems to prevent human life loss, and visually staying out of our social business. UFOs are behaving in the most ethical manner one could imagine. They have had thousands of years to threaten us, but they don't. Just leave them alone and focus on being a better human. They're not doing a very good job. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted March 15, 2019 #20 Share Posted March 15, 2019 On 14.3.2019 at 2:35 PM, mdbuilder said: National security? They need funds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast Posted March 15, 2019 #21 Share Posted March 15, 2019 On 14.3.2019 at 2:30 PM, Nnicolette said: Personally i think anyone who systematically denies thousands of experiences Personally, and until today, I`ve not seen a single "case" that would withstand a systematical analysis. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minimalists Posted March 15, 2019 #22 Share Posted March 15, 2019 To be up front and honest I had never heard of this guy until this thread. And from what I have managed to research on him it seems that he is no more credible than any of the other crackpots out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted March 15, 2019 #23 Share Posted March 15, 2019 On 14/03/2019 at 1:30 PM, Nnicolette said: full out denial without investigation of the facts is not the least bit scientific or intelligent. what facts? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dejarma Posted March 15, 2019 #24 Share Posted March 15, 2019 5 hours ago, David Thomson said: Why would we think UFOs present a threat to our security? They are monitoring the Earth, fixing natural problems to prevent human life loss, and visually staying out of our social business. UFOs are behaving in the most ethical manner one could imagine. They have had thousands of years to threaten us, but they don't. Just leave them alone and focus on being a better human. oh to live in a fantasy world 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the13bats Posted March 15, 2019 #25 Share Posted March 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Rlyeh said: Is that what you were told during the last probing session? Dont ask dont tell https://s3.amazonaws.com/v.comb.io/bv1TKRuI/SHwldQ.mp4?1500062070925 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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