weareIF Posted March 18, 2019 #1 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) Hi guys, I am new here and looking to get to know more people interested in the UFO phenomena. I am a keen follower and often put my feelings into video form on my youtube channel. I want to go a little deeper in my research and I am reaching out to communities of believers to gain knowledge and make new friends. I look forward to hopefully getting know a few of you guys Best wishes IF. Edited March 18, 2019 by weareIF grammar 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodReality Posted March 18, 2019 #2 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Welcome to the forums! What's the most impressive piece of evidence to you? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted March 18, 2019 #3 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, weareIF said: I want to go a little deeper in my research Hi and welcome to UM. Start your research with the NASA site and have a good read and research astronomy Quote It is concerned with the evolution, physics, chemistry, meteorology, and motion of celestial objects, as well as the formation and development of the universe. https://www.sciencedaily.com/terms/astronomy.htm This will help you understand why ufo crafts are not visiting Earth (incase you think they are). You will find the majority of us do believe we are not alone in the universe in terms of lifeforms. But lifeforns could be anything which is living, it does not mean an advanced alien race flying around the universe in spaceships. As for alien crafts flying around our planet, certainly not in my book. I hope you do start your research with what i recommend, an understanding of our planet and our Universe should give you an indication as to why the (ufo's) people think are alien crafts - are not. Have a look at some of the explanations of lights or alien debunks on here too. Edited March 18, 2019 by freetoroam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted March 18, 2019 #4 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Hi there,weareIF Welcome to UM. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Posted March 18, 2019 #5 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Welcome aboard. 1 hour ago, freetoroam said: Start your research with the NASA site and have a good read and research astronomy This will help you understand why ufo crafts are not visiting Earth (incase you think they are). The argument that it is impossible for an extraterrestrial civilization to have ever visited Earth due to the distances involved is kind of like someone in the 17th century making the assertion that mankind will never reach the Moon because sailing ships can't fly. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+ouija ouija Posted March 18, 2019 #6 Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Saru said: Welcome aboard. The argument that it is impossible for an extraterrestrial civilization to have ever visited Earth due to the distances involved is kind of like someone in the 17th century making the assertion that mankind will never reach the Moon because sailing ships can't fly. The voice of reason! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weareIF Posted March 18, 2019 Author #7 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Thanks for all the replies its nice to meet you thanks for the tips and advice. I often use MUFON and NASA but I also source many of the stories I cover from forums like these, this is the reason I want to dig deeper the more I learn the more questions I have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted March 18, 2019 #8 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Saru said: Welcome aboard. The argument that it is impossible for an extraterrestrial civilization to have ever visited Earth due to the distances involved is kind of like someone in the 17th century making the assertion that mankind will never reach the Moon because sailing ships can't fly. My argument is not that they have never visited Earth, the Earth is over 4.5 billion years old, humans ancestors around 6 million. As a species we have evolved into modern day humans, it is posible the 'seed' for life came on a comet, but as for a civilized race, we certainly was not that race, and there is no indication of a civilized race visiting Earth and leaving anything behind to show they were here ( not even the building of the pyramids idea ). I believe there is life out there, but it does not mean an advanced species flying to Earth. The thing we have today is people believing we are being visited and some are being abducted. We have enough astronomers watching the skies and the technology to spot anything coming within our atmoshere and we have nothing showing we have been visited by any alien crafts. We are not living in the 17th century, we are living in a time where we know a lot more about our universe. We live in a age of man made satelites, spacecrafts, aircrafts and lights and are aware of natural phenomena. If someone wants to believe aliens are visiting Earth i think they should also research astronomy and what we know about our universe so far. Edited March 18, 2019 by freetoroam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saru Posted March 18, 2019 #9 Share Posted March 18, 2019 1 minute ago, freetoroam said: If someone wants to believe aliens are visiting Earth i think they should also research astronomy and what we know about our universe so far. But how does researching astronomy help someone "understand why UFOs are not visiting Earth" ? Quote there is no indication of a civilized race visiting Earth and leaving anything behind to show they were here To quote Carl Sagan - absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander CMG Posted March 18, 2019 #10 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Welcome to the forums weareIF, have fun and enjoy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Walt' E. Kurtz Posted March 18, 2019 #11 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Welcome you will find many ufo's here :-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MWoo7 Posted March 18, 2019 #12 Share Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) "oh I JUST LOVE THAT ! " Edited March 18, 2019 by MWoo7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted March 18, 2019 #13 Share Posted March 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Saru said: But how does researching astronomy help someone "understand why UFOs are not visiting Earth" ? It will help some to understand why lights they think are ufo's could be one of the many man made objects out there or a natural phenomena. I am not saying we are alone in the universe, but we have enough technology today and astronomers watching the skies from all corners of the Earth, that i can not believe that they would all miss an alien craft arriving, coming through our atmosphere, hovering about a bit, maybe do a bit of abducting and then fly off again. I believe if an alien craft did visit our planet during mans life time, from where we are now, it would be spotted by many and we would really know about it. 3 hours ago, Saru said: To quote Carl Sagan - absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. This is true when it comes to what is out there in our Universe, obviously, as we are reletively still in the early staged, but we know how to watch our skies and astronomers and many others can tell what is a piece of space debris, meteorite, man made flying machine, balloon or natural phenomena. Those claiming aliens are visiting Earth with photos or videos = are producing what they believe is evidence, and none of it has confirmed alien presence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted March 18, 2019 #14 Share Posted March 18, 2019 Welcome to UM weareIF 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightAngel Posted March 19, 2019 #15 Share Posted March 19, 2019 14 hours ago, freetoroam said: we would really know about it. No! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted March 19, 2019 #16 Share Posted March 19, 2019 2 hours ago, LightAngel said: No! What do you mean by no? If we never knew about it, there would be nothing to report in the first place. All those which claim to have seen alien crafts are claiming to know about it, the thing is, the lights they see are either man made devises or a natural phenomena. Hence why i recommend they do some research on the space and astronomers site, even have a look at combine harvesters at night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightAngel Posted March 19, 2019 #17 Share Posted March 19, 2019 12 minutes ago, freetoroam said: What do you mean by no? No. Means..... NO! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weareIF Posted March 19, 2019 Author #18 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Nice to see so many active people. What a great forum 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freetoroam Posted March 19, 2019 #19 Share Posted March 19, 2019 6 hours ago, LightAngel said: No. Means..... NO! Do you have an explanation as to why we would not spot an alien craft visiting Earth? From the reports from those claiming they have seen their lights, why do you think the astronomers and people like NASA who have a front seat in space, have not spotted them? ... how about because they are not alien crafts? But you think otherwise, explain it to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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