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morgellons disease

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kidagakash

Dclassified as mental health conditions concern so I have stopped reaching for help until I came across an article that says it is fine ally being acknowledged as a real thing. Every so often "I have dubbed it shedding season" I routinely get swarmed with red scotches that seem to "eat" my skin and replace it with flaky patches and a sticky resin of some sort. They spread rapidly and are very difficult to combat. When this happens I usually take a bath with tea tree oil and epsom salt. It is the only thing I know of that can stop them at all. During the bath g, if I put pressure (twist or push) on areas on skin a lot of black flakes will fall out of the skin. Not blackheads or anything, but like little pebbles or flakes. A couple times I have tried to force a piece out that didn't want to yield and it was like smoke and heat was created from it somehow. I remember one time when my dog was nearby he actually gave out a sudden yelp of pain when I tried to pull it out. Sometimes when I have been able to removd pieces of this "thing" it seems attracted back to me and tries to. be reabsorbed.  On a further note it seems to hate sunlight and warmth. Has anyone else had sometbi g like this happen? I have pretty much given Up trying to talk about ir but noticed ir might be ganen more seriously these days. Wish i has some way to stoñ ir but ir nevera seems to go away. Thanks for reading.

 

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Piney

Did you talk to a dermatologist? 

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kidagakash

I have approached this topic through conventional medical channels. It has been dismissed as mental health teasons for lack of finding a common pathogen responsible. That is the reason I tried reaching out here. Medical professionals rarely  take this seriously.

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moonman
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So you shed chunks of gunpowder and you don't have a sample to take to a doctor? You leak sticky resin from red splotches and the doctors find nothing wrong?

It sounds like the "mental health" assessment is spot on. Obviously something that horrible and severe would have testable evidence in spades - if it actually existed.

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ChrLzs

Just post some pictures, OP.  They don't have to be identifiable.

 

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ouija ouija

Hi, kidagakash. Have you tried having this problem treated as a mental health problem? Many physical symptoms can have a mental origin. I'm wondering why you are so resistant to this. Just a thought: the doctors may be dismissing it as solely a mental problem because(please don't be offended), it is rather odd the way in which you describe it ..... as if it is a creature with a life of it's own! Last but not least, if I was you I would stop using tea tree oil. It is way too strong for most skins and may actually be aggravating, or even causing the problem. Have you tried a homeopath? They are usually more open to 'odd' descriptions of symptoms.

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Piney
39 minutes ago, ouija ouija said:

if I was you I would stop using tea tree oil. It is way too strong for most skins and may actually be aggravating, or even causing the problem.

When I use this stuff on my sword scabbards it drives everyone out of the house. You have a good point. Clogged pores (black waxy nodules) and caustic burns.

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Unfortunately

Honestly, I hadn't heard of Morgellons disease prior to seeing this thread. After doing some research I can see how difficult the disease must be to live with along with how controversial the topic is. I never like to hear about someone who is having a hard time, so I really do hope things become easier for you.

(Here's) a link that I thought was incredibly informative about the whole matter in comparison to some other websites. Maybe there'll be something in there that gives you some insight.

Although it seems research has been done in regards to the disease, it's plausible there could be some things that may have been overlooked. I'm sure it's frustrating for you to be dismissed even when your body is showing signs that something is wrong, but it's important to keep an open mind in order to find the most accurate and beneficial option. There's obviously a physical factor to Morgellons (which looks extremely painful in some cases) but try to keep in mind that part of the disease is also psychological. Despite how insistent some people are to suggest the latter above all else, the ideal situation would be to have both a dermatologist and a psychiatrist collaborating with each other and discussing their thoughts with you.

I really do hope you find the answers you need in order to work your way through this problem. ^_^

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Piney
46 minutes ago, Unfortunately said:

Honestly, I hadn't heard of Morgellons disease

It's a product of woocrap and self diagnosis without medical training. It doesn't exist.

 

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The Wistman

I'm sorry to hear of your affliction.  A few years ago, the music legend Joni MItchell announced she had been suffering with this illness, with little to no relief from dermatologists...or belief for that matter (they say it's psychosomatic)..  She is adamant about its reality and the suffering she endured.  I don't think she's ever gotten any relief from the condition, though I could be wrong.   (Sadly, she's since suffered major debilitating crises that don't seem to be related to the affliction, but since it is not acknowledged by the medical community, such connections haven't been studied.)  You might try searching the internet using her name, or contacting the people on her website to see if they can inform or direct you to better resources.  Good luck, I hope you can find some relief.

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Piney
52 minutes ago, The Wistman said:

I'm sorry to hear of your affliction.  A few years ago, the music legend Joni MItchell announced she had been suffering with this illness, with little to no relief from dermatologists...or belief for that matter (they say it's psychosomatic)..  She is adamant about its reality and the suffering she endured.  I don't think she's ever gotten any relief from the condition, though I could be wrong.   (Sadly, she's since suffered major debilitating crises that don't seem to be related to the affliction, but since it is not acknowledged by the medical community, such connections haven't been studied.)  You might try searching the internet using her name, or contacting the people on her website to see if they can inform or direct you to better resources.  Good luck, I hope you can find some relief.

Although I do agree with her politics. I don't agree with her "medical theories?"

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Nnicolette

This is interesting I've heard of this ailment before but never seen it. A quick search reveals: "the CDC worked together with several other health care agencies to investigate this condition. Most reports came from California, Texas, and Florida, although patients have been seen in all 50 states."

i find it hugely irresponsible that its written off as a mental problem. Although i see the similarity and why many cases could in fact be tweakers for lack of a better word. Do you live in a small town? In my experience doctors can be largely incompetent in thier diagnosis and attempts to investigate a problem, but you may have better luck finding a specialist who has experience with the subject.

It must be incredibly frustrating to experience crap literally coming out of your skin and be told its a mental problem, as is the consensus based on lack of answers. Might we see pictures of the black stuff?

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Piney
54 minutes ago, Nnicolette said:

i find it hugely irresponsible that its written off as a mental problem. Although i see the similarity and why many cases could in fact be tweakers for lack of a better word. Do you live in a small town? In my experience doctors can be largely incompetent in thier diagnosis and attempts to investigate a problem, but you may have better luck finding a specialist who has experience with the subject.

 

Your microbiome and immune system is tied in with your mental health. A autoimmune response from stress or a mental health issue is not uncommon. Then it is sometimes exaggerated by the patient who has mental health issues. 

They needs to see a immunologist and a dermatologist. Not "research" it themselves. 

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18 minutes ago, Piney said:

Your microbiome and immune system is tied in with your mental health. A autoimmune response from stress or a mental health issue is not uncommon. Then it is sometimes exaggerated by the patient who has mental health issues. 

They needs to see a immunologist and a dermatologist. Not "research" it themselves. 

True. Your brain is in charge and more often than not i notice some of us are as well as we believe we are for good or bad. I guess i was lacking that bit about the physical manifestations of it but at the same time i have also been brushed off by doctors the same way over very basic things that were not hard to find the answers to and fix myself. I didnt reccomend that though as your solution is what i meant by see a "specialist".

I am actually a medical transcriptionist in training though so hopefully i will develop more trust in general doctors despite my experiences the few times i did need them and got no answers to basic incredibly common ailments. I see a bit of lacking in our current medical practice. We treat symptoms but not causes. I just find it hard to believe that your psychae could make you grow fibers or black pebbles under your skin. But then again people have grown horns. Id be more inclined to guess contamination. Maybe the sores are taking in material. Ive had to pick fibers and pebbles out of wounds before. Maybe the sores are appearing and something in the environment is getting into the skin?

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Nnicolette
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I found a very interesting article http://www.viewzone.com/morgellonsx.html  which i find very compelling. It is definitely worth reading all of! Never mind the conspiracy theorist type headline, the actual information is quite interesting. GMO's may be the culprit, not the resulting brain function issues. Which also explains the reluctance to publicize the facts, and the attemps to discredit the experience of the sufferers. So this raises some questions, like does the op live in an agricultural area and come into contact with the soil, or consume large amounts of GMOs?

You know paired with this research and findings, i find it quite interesting that the disease began being reported a few years after the first (still largely untested for health effects) commercial gmo crops hit the market. Hmmm.... A google search reveals this is an already widely postulated notion.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/gmo-and-morgellons-disease/8464  

With many similar observations and articles.

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Unfortunately
Posted (edited)
8 hours ago, Piney said:

It's a product of woocrap and self diagnosis without medical training. It doesn't exist.

 

Scoured the internet for some reference to the CDC definitively confirming that Morgellons is a disease. Couldn't find anything.

There's definitely a physical side to Morgellons, but from what I can tell the evidence points to psychological issues leading to the physical symptoms. More research needs to be done on the GMO concept as there seem to be some suggestive factors implying GMO's could be the cause.

My bad, I assumed it was a confirmed disease, but it definitely isn't. It's certainly an issue though as millions of people are affected by this, not just a few thousand. ^_^

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2 minutes ago, Unfortunately said:

There's definitely a physical side to Morgellons, but from what I can tell the evidence points to psychological issues leading to the physical symptoms. More research needs to be done on the GMO concept as there seem to be some suggestive factors implying GMO's could be the cause.

 

It's not the GMO aspect. It's the 42D and quats they put on the seeds. Which is also in toothpaste and soaps. But that probably causes immune system collapses. Not rashes

 My people have been genetically modifying crops for a thousands of years. If they didn't you wouldn't be eating corn, watermelon, or tomatoes. 

Like I said. A autoimmune response to mental health issues. 

 

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Posted (edited)

I honestly don't know enough about the origins of corn, watermelon and tomatoes to confirm your statement about them. ^_^.

I wasn't saying it was specifically a GMO, I just observed that there are studies that suggest this. My personal opinion is in my previous post where I stated that I believe it is primarily a psychological problem. 'Morgellons' certainly exists, but I believe it's a disorder rather than a disease.

Edit: I live in Australia where we don't use GM's to modify any of our crops except canola, cotton and safflower, so my experience in that area is minimal. ^_^

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Piney
5 hours ago, Nnicolette said:

I found a very interesting article http://www.viewzone.com/morgellonsx.html  which i find very compelling. It is definitely worth reading all of! Never mind the conspiracy theorist type headline, the actual information is quite interesting. GMO's may be the culprit, not the resulting brain function issues. Which also explains the reluctance to publicize the facts, and the attemps to discredit the experience of the sufferers. So this raises some questions, like does the op live in an agricultural area and come into contact with the soil, or consume large amounts of GMOs?

This article is horse crap. Not a medical study by a actual researcher.

This is horse crap too.

10 hours ago, ouija ouija said:

Have you tried a homeopath?

https://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/homeo.html

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SecretSanta

It is totally normal to have a clear fluid ooze from a wound. It’s also somewhat sticky. I’ve gotten scraped, cut and burned and each time it was healing it had this. I’ve also had fibers stick to it, usually fuzz or something from the clothing. 

I really think you need to see a dermatologist, you may have a skin condition that can be treated.  

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Nnicolette
46 minutes ago, Piney said:

It's not the GMO aspect. It's the 42D and quats they put on the seeds. Which is also in toothpaste and soaps. But that probably causes immune system collapses. Not rashes

 My people have been genetically modifying crops for a thousands of years. If they didn't you wouldn't be eating corn, watermelon, or tomatoes. 

Like I said. A autoimmune response to mental health issues. 

 

No i think you missed the part i am referring to. Selective breeding is not the same as genetic engineering. The material in the flourecent fibers coming out of people skin is apparently a match for the material that is being used in alterations of the dna. You really ought to read all of the information i am referring to before drawing conclusions on the authenticity of the talking points because it is a bit more explanitory than i am and worth considering, despite the nature of the writer. There are actually many many more on the concept its hardly one persons research.

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Piney
4 minutes ago, Nnicolette said:

No i think you missed the part i am referring to. Selective breeding is not the same as genetic engineering. The material in the flourecent fibers coming out of people skin is apparently a match for the material that is being used in alterations of the dna. You really ought to read all of the information i am referring to before drawing conclusions on the authenticity of the talking points because it is a bit more explanitory than i am and worth considering, despite the nature of the writer. There are actually many many more on the concept its hardly one persons research.

I know all about GMO crops. All feed corn and soy crops, which we grew at our ranch were GMO. There is no "material". Just a gene editor. Rutledge Ellis-Benke who designed the machine that does it is a friend of mine. He was actually one of my teachers and his farm was next to ours.

It's horse crap.

 If it wasn't for the GMO single ear drought resistant corn. Half of Africa would of starved. 

 

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Jon the frog
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My wife got some bad eczema spot sometimes, usually on the hands and feet. She got spots of skin inflammation,  oozing and crusting if she don't use her prescribed medicated cream. Skin just peel off if it let it loose. Skin problems are common and using strong product without knowledge can amplify the problems.

Go see a dermatologist when the symptoms are present.

NB: If it's only you that see them it's another thing all together.

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Patricia Brannan
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Small debris that's NOT A BUG jumps like a flea AND changed shape when you touch it gentally.  Small debris wether it's lint pieces or dirt.. doesnt matter, ANY DEBRIS THATS GATHERED TOGETHER ..can line up in rows of TWOS AND THREES!! You put it in a pile, say 5 pieces of debris.. in time (maybe 1/2 hour maybe hour) and it has made rows of 2 and 3 STRAIGHT LINE EACH ROW EACH PIECE!! NEVER FOURS OR FIVES.   JUST TWOS & THREES !! ITS INTELLIGENT . POPS OUT OF SIGHT AT WILL (It's own will ithappened in front of my eyes!) **AND** Very small flying like bugs come from it when the debris is active! I KID YOU NOT! I SAVED A PIECE OF THE DEBRIS THAT JUMPED ACROSS MY BEDSPREAD WHEN I TOUCHED IT (IN A MED BOTTLE)!! HAVE IT STILL! IT CHANGES SHAPE TOO when you ""touch & scoot  it gentally! I'm gonna have to use my fone & record it!

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