XenoFish Posted April 15, 2019 #2551 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Dany he's yours. I really don't feel like it today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted April 15, 2019 #2552 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Again, how quantum activity, clearly and repeatedly exists in the micro and yet oddly is not fully expressed in the macro is under considerable inspection. That "bridge", which MUST exist, has not yet been found, but is presumed by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted April 15, 2019 #2553 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, pallidin said: Again, how quantum activity, clearly and repeatedly exists in the micro and yet oddly is not fully expressed in the macro is under considerable inspection. That "bridge", which MUST exist, has not yet been found, but is presumed by default. No. All it is, is lack of information. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sherapy Posted April 15, 2019 #2554 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, danydandan said: No. All it is, is lack of information. Quantum activity is lack of information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted April 15, 2019 #2555 Share Posted April 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, XenoFish said: Dany he's yours. I really don't feel like it today. I spend all my time in work talking about photons, experimental error just today we were looking at a time-energy entanglement experiment that made my head hurts so much I wanted to cry. I come here to not talk about that stuff 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted April 15, 2019 #2556 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, danydandan said: No. All it is, is lack of information. Information? Well, what you are really talking about is that Reality exists in "uncertainty" and some, as yet unknown attribute collapses the probability into a single-state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted April 15, 2019 #2557 Share Posted April 15, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sherapy said: Quantum activity is lack of information? More specifically uncertainty is experimental error. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted April 15, 2019 #2558 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Tentatively, the "probability collapse" does not appear to be a result of a "standard" force-carrier. Causation of probability collapse into a single-state remains unknown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted April 15, 2019 #2559 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, pallidin said: Information? Well, what you are really talking about is that Reality exists in "uncertainty" and some, as yet unknown attribute collapses the probability into a single-state. Your bringing a philosophical interpretation of experimental data I am not. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted April 15, 2019 #2560 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, danydandan said: Your bringing a philosophical interpretation of experimental data I am not. Not philosophical at all, just pure science; you know that. I love, absolutely love, physics. Never been highly trained, but I can certainly hold-my-own as I read a great deal on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted April 15, 2019 #2561 Share Posted April 15, 2019 I'm in one of my low grad "Xeno-Moods", perhaps I should skip posting today as this thread is making zero progress in any direction. And has devolved into a waste of time. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted April 15, 2019 #2562 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Can you explain probability collapse? It's not philosophy, it's science. No-one yet has explained it. But there are robust efforts to understand how it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted April 15, 2019 #2563 Share Posted April 15, 2019 20 minutes ago, XenoFish said: I'm in one of my low grad "Xeno-Moods", perhaps I should skip posting today as this thread is making zero progress in any direction. And has devolved into a waste of time. Actually, there is a great deal of progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted April 15, 2019 #2564 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, pallidin said: Actually, there is a great deal of progress. No there isn't. Just you rambling on about quantum physics as if it's the new "God did it". It's old. It's been done a million times. I had to see enough of that Fillintheblanktheism when I used to be on several occult forums. There's always someone doing exactly what you're doing. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted April 15, 2019 #2565 Share Posted April 15, 2019 God existence/non-existence is more a philosophy question than a science one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted April 15, 2019 #2566 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Just now, XenoFish said: No there isn't. Just you rambling on about quantum physics as if it's the new "God did it". It's old. It's been done a million times. I had to see enough of that Fillintheblanktheism when I used to be on several occult forums. There's always someone doing exactly what you're doing. What am I doing? I was under the impression that my posts are just fine. Where are my errors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted April 15, 2019 #2567 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, XenoFish said: God existence/non-existence is more a philosophy question than a science one. Whoa, step-back. The issue of a God, God's, or multi-dimensional beings is very much a Science issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted April 15, 2019 #2568 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, pallidin said: Whoa, step-back. The issue of a God, God's, or multi-dimensional beings is very much a Science issue. No it's not. Why the hell do I even bother anymore? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted April 15, 2019 #2569 Share Posted April 15, 2019 37 minutes ago, XenoFish said: No it's not. Why the hell do I even bother anymore? I guess only you can answer that question... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted April 15, 2019 #2570 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Xeno, it's actually very simple, and no need to be upset: If there is a "God", "God's" or interdimensional realities physics will, eventually, detect it, and that detection will be demanded for acceptance. That's why this issue is very much a scientific one, and NOT just philosophical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted April 15, 2019 #2571 Share Posted April 15, 2019 1 minute ago, pallidin said: Xeno, it's actually very simple, and no need to be upset: If there is a "God", "God's" or interdimensional realities physics will, eventually, detect it, and that detection will be demanded for acceptance. That's why this issue is very much a scientific one, and NOT just philosophical. No one has any idea or even a clue as to what they would/should be looking for. So it's not a scientific question. Because just as you've done with quantum physics, others can and do the same thing in regards to god. They find something sciency and relate it to spirituality. Isn't the whole point of faith, to have faith. If you're trying to validate god's existence using science, then it is apparent that they do not have faith in god. As it currently stands god is just an idea. A thought. Sort of like. "I don't know, therefor higher dimensional beings." Yet when asked to support such a claim, we get nada. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted April 15, 2019 #2572 Share Posted April 15, 2019 In the recent past it was virtual heresy to suggest planets outside our own solar system. I remember those times. Many astrophysicist's refused searching due to "ridicule" Some were brave enough to search anyway, and here we are with total acceptance of extra-solar planets. So you see, a good investigator does NOT rely on initial proof... he searches for it, and Science advances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted April 15, 2019 #2573 Share Posted April 15, 2019 Still doesn't validate the god-idea. The only place god does exist. Is in your imagination. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted April 15, 2019 #2574 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) Xeno, have a good life. Our conversation is now permanently over with. Edited April 15, 2019 by pallidin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoFish Posted April 16, 2019 #2575 Share Posted April 16, 2019 I've noticed a few people like to think of god as a "higher dimensional being", let's say this is so. Do you think our feeble primate brains could comprehend something like that at all? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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