+joc Posted March 31, 2019 #426 Share Posted March 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, Piney said: Yes, yes, no. Quote Just a group of people worshiping or meditating in silence, holding their own personal beliefs. So, no 'main guy' explaining to the crowd why they should believe a certain way about certain things and what will happen to them if they don't? No, PA System with mutliple speakers to play live music through while the other 'main guy' leads them to sing certain phrases thrown up on a big screen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piney Posted March 31, 2019 #427 Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 minute ago, joc said: So, no 'main guy' explaining to the crowd why they should believe a certain way about certain things and what will happen to them if they don't? No, PA System with mutliple speakers to play live music through while the other 'main guy' leads them to sing certain phrases thrown up on a big screen? "Read everything, question everything and figure it out for yourself". I'm assuming this idea came about from living side by side and interacting with Indians for about 300 years. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #428 Share Posted March 31, 2019 13 hours ago, psyche101 said: No. It's rude to comment without doing so. Well good for you Mr Belief. Its not like any regular poster doesn't know that. Because learning is hard and belief is way. We know you're lazy and take the simple choice. You could join a religion that inspires you to be a pleasent person, this passive aggressive approach is typically the behaviour of uniformed believers. Maybe try Buddhism and, see if you're less of a Prick. Well, I can clearly see that you are attacking me, whereas I have done nothing to deserve it. I do not understand why you have directly wrote inflammatory statements towards me, but oh well. You do realize you have violated Forum rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #429 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Back on topic, it is clear that Science fully recognizes quantum "weirdness" and the potentiality of seemingly bizzare events. This necessarily includes the supernatural, as quantum physics demands extra-dimensions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rlyeh Posted March 31, 2019 #430 Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, pallidin said: Back on topic, it is clear that Science fully recognizes quantum "weirdness" and the potentiality of seemingly bizzare events. This necessarily includes the supernatural, as quantum physics demands extra-dimensions. Nothing to do with the supernatural. Don't let that get in the way of your god of gaps. Edited March 31, 2019 by Rlyeh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #431 Share Posted March 31, 2019 "God of gaps" Huh, now I must effort to become an agnostic simply because of that phraseology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #432 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Truth is, agnostics are overly emotional narcissists which refuse Science that does not agree with personal position of extreme individuality.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted March 31, 2019 #433 Share Posted March 31, 2019 16 minutes ago, pallidin said: Truth is, agnostics are overly emotional narcissists which refuse Science that does not agree with personal position of extreme individuality.... You really are a flamebaiting troll. Eh? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #434 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Just now, danydandan said: You really are a flamebaiting troll. Eh? Not at all, just expressing a counter-opinion. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #435 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Of course, agnostic narcissists are completely uninterested in opinions counter to their own. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted March 31, 2019 #436 Share Posted March 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, pallidin said: Of course, agnostic narcissists are completely uninterested in opinions counter to their own. 5 minutes ago, pallidin said: Not at all, just expressing a counter-opinion. Start a blog, or start a thread about it. This is a discussion regarding Atheists and it's possible incompatibility with science. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #437 Share Posted March 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, danydandan said: Start a blog, or start a thread about it. This is a discussion regarding Atheists and it's possible incompatibility with science. Atheists and agnostics are in a very similar camp. Just that one is more hard-core. Both refuse Science, however. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #438 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Science provides for extraordinary possibilities. Both atheists and agnostics will have none of that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #439 Share Posted March 31, 2019 It really does boil-down to a heightened sense of "anti-authoritarianism", narcissism, and ego-centricity. A triplet psychosis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opus Magnus Posted March 31, 2019 #440 Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) I actually think there is a great divide between agnosticism and atheism. A lot of agnostics would never drift to atheism. Edited March 31, 2019 by Opus Magnus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #441 Share Posted March 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, Opus Magnus said: I actually think there is a great divide between agnosticism and atheism. A lot of agnostics would never drift to atheism, and the vice versa is probably true for atheists drifting to agnosticism. And yet, both positions dismiss important, recognized, scientific findings of probability bizzareness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Due Posted March 31, 2019 #442 Share Posted March 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, pallidin said: It really does boil-down to a heightened sense of "anti-authoritarianism", narcissism, and ego-centricity. A triplet psychosis. You forgot to mention, misotheism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted March 31, 2019 #443 Share Posted March 31, 2019 38 minutes ago, danydandan said: Start a blog, or start a thread about it. This is a discussion regarding Atheists and it's possible incompatibility with science. Occasionally. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted March 31, 2019 #444 Share Posted March 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, pallidin said: And yet, both positions dismiss important, recognized, scientific findings of probability bizzareness. I'm agnostic, and a scientist. Seems you're waffling here. eh? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #445 Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 minute ago, danydandan said: I'm agnostic, and a scientist. Seems you're waffling here. eh? Waffling what? Give specifics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted March 31, 2019 #446 Share Posted March 31, 2019 10 minutes ago, pallidin said: Waffling what? Give specifics. 55 minutes ago, pallidin said: Science provides for extraordinary possibilities. Both atheists and agnostics will have none of that. 57 minutes ago, pallidin said: Atheists and agnostics are in a very similar camp. Just that one is more hard-core. Both refuse Science, however. I could go back over several other pages to select more of your posts that demonstrate your lack of relevant understanding of positions and people that you challenge. jmccr8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #447 Share Posted March 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, jmccr8 said: I could go back over several other pages to select more of your posts that demonstrate your lack of relevant understanding of positions and people that you challenge. jmccr8 Well that's OK. Just offering solid science and personal opinion. Do you refute Science? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #448 Share Posted March 31, 2019 This IS a most difficult subject, granted. All due latitude is given... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danydandan Posted March 31, 2019 #449 Share Posted March 31, 2019 20 minutes ago, pallidin said: Well that's OK. Just offering solid science and personal opinion. Do you refute Science? You've offered not a single solitary scientific theory, hypothesis, question of study or thought in general. What exactly is the 'science' you are trying to convey here? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #450 Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 minute ago, danydandan said: You've offered not a single solitary scientific theory, hypothesis, question of study or thought in general. What exactly is the 'science' you are trying to convey here? Probability studies, as well as quantum weirdness. It's all there. But hey, here's a tune to enjoy... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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