pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #451 Share Posted March 31, 2019 If that is not your flavor as we consider the hard aspects of Reality, feel free to enjoy this... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horta Posted March 31, 2019 #452 Share Posted March 31, 2019 3 hours ago, pallidin said: Back on topic, it is clear that Science fully recognizes quantum "weirdness" and the potentiality of seemingly bizzare events. This necessarily includes the supernatural, as quantum physics demands extra-dimensions. I did read where a quantum physicist created a separate category for the ever growing "I have an irrational belief, therefore quantum weirdness means it is real" fallacies. He called it "quantumflapdoodlewoo". He only needed the last three letters though. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted March 31, 2019 #453 Share Posted March 31, 2019 54 minutes ago, pallidin said: Well that's OK. Just offering solid science and personal opinion. Do you refute Science? Hi Pallidin I have no problem with science, I didn't actually see any documentation posted to read so not much to support a position or to discuss other than opinion. jmccr8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #454 Share Posted March 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, jmccr8 said: Hi Pallidin I have no problem with science, I didn't actually see any documentation posted to read so not much to support a position or to discuss other than opinion. jmccr8 Just Google "quantum weirdness", and effort towards government publications. If you're not a professional, just WIKI the above. Does that help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horta Posted March 31, 2019 #455 Share Posted March 31, 2019 10 minutes ago, jmccr8 said: Hi Pallidin I have no problem with science, I didn't actually see any documentation posted to read so not much to support a position or to discuss other than opinion. jmccr8 For the latest updates in quantumflapdoodlewoo, just google Deepak Chopra lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #456 Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Horta said: For the latest updates in quantumflapdoodlewoo, just google Deepak Hahaha...... Edited March 31, 2019 by pallidin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horta Posted March 31, 2019 #457 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Here's the latest science relevant to "philosophea naturalis principia quantumflapdoodlewoo" theory. Quite compelling. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted March 31, 2019 #458 Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, pallidin said: Just Google "quantum weirdness", and effort towards government publications. If you're not a professional, just WIKI the above. Does that help? Hi Pallidin Quantum Weirdness | Explanation of the (formanlly) Weird Quantum World Okay, there you go, I posted a link for you should I also form a position for you as well or are you going to show how this is relevant for your view is that atheists and agnostics not accepting science. Generally speaking, the onus to provide documentation is on the person that makes a claim or statement. jmccr8 Edit to add Having looked at it from a whorl or vortex photon standpoint (as opposed to a wave standpoint), it is easy to imagine a photon nearly 1 meter in diameter passing around both sides of a telephone pole or being pulled around a corner of a building as one edge drags on the sharp edge there. The same thing should happen to a red, blue or green photon encountering superfine wires or sharp edges of a razor blade or slit. Not having the equipment nor the results of any such experiments at radio frequencies, I’m going to move this into a thought experiment and follow a photon up close, drawing on the earlier radio frequency thought experiment and adding details that agree with what we know about light photons and see where we go. In this case I’ll consider a 450 nm blue photon. I mention a blue photon only to help differentiate it from a radio frequency photon in the following discussion. It doesn’t matter what it is, they should behave the same This is from the link posted not really sure that this is science as they are calling it a thought experiment with no data or equipment. Edited March 31, 2019 by jmccr8 added context 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horta Posted March 31, 2019 #459 Share Posted March 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, pallidin said: Not into personal attacks... read the rules. What personal attack? What are you on about lol? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted March 31, 2019 #460 Share Posted March 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, pallidin said: No interest in real science? Got it. I have no interest in pseudoscientific claptrap, other than dismissing specifics of it with facts and logic. But clearly your interest is only ad hom's, music videos and one or two line posts of no substance whatsoever, so there's nuthing to dismiss. A well-known tinfoil tactic. Why not give your best example of how QT (or whatever) is relevant to the discussion? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #461 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Just now, Horta said: What personal attack? What are you on about lol? That sounds "personal" Love you... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #462 Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 minute ago, ChrLzs said: I have no interest in pseudoscientific claptrap, other than dismissing specifics of it with facts and logic. But clearly your interest is only ad hom's, music videos and one or two line posts of no substance whatsoever, so there's nuthing to dismiss. A well-known tinfoil tactic. Why not give your best example of how QT (or whatever) is relevant to the discussion? Whoa, now this is interesting! Working on it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #463 Share Posted March 31, 2019 "Pseudo scientific claptrap" Well, let me ask you this: Do you accept the findings of Science? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #464 Share Posted March 31, 2019 That would be a yes or no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted March 31, 2019 #465 Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 minute ago, pallidin said: Whoa, now this is interesting! Working on it... Gee, if only you'd done that two pages ago - people wouldn't be calling you a troll, then... Just now, pallidin said: "Pseudo scientific claptrap" Well, let me ask you this: Do you accept the findings of Science? Properly peer reviewed science, yes. Get to the friggin' point. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #466 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Or wait, only when Science agrees with narcissism. Yeah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #467 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Get to what point? I've made it, numerous times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #468 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Sorry, I'm not a "The World is all about me" type person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted March 31, 2019 #469 Share Posted March 31, 2019 1 minute ago, pallidin said: Get to what point? I've made it, numerous times. It was probably too small a point to see with the naked eye, maybe if you fleshed it out somewhat. jmccr8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #470 Share Posted March 31, 2019 2 minutes ago, jmccr8 said: It was probably too small a point to see with the naked eye, maybe if you fleshed it out somewhat. jmccr8 Are you incapable of basic research, or do I need to spell it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrLzs Posted March 31, 2019 #471 Share Posted March 31, 2019 ..reported.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #472 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Just now, ChrLzs said: ..reported.. Yeah, well, I could have reported many. Point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #473 Share Posted March 31, 2019 (edited) I have been clearly attacked in previous posts... but do I "report"? No, because this is an inherently difficult topic, and much latitude must be given. Edited March 31, 2019 by pallidin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmccr8 Posted March 31, 2019 #474 Share Posted March 31, 2019 9 minutes ago, pallidin said: Are you incapable of basic research, or do I need to spell it out? Read post #458 jmccr8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pallidin Posted March 31, 2019 #475 Share Posted March 31, 2019 Just now, jmccr8 said: Read post #458 jmccr8 Read my posts, specifically that quantum mechanics provide for, and demands, weirdness. Nature of the beast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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