Jump to content
Join the Unexplained Mysteries community today! It's free and setting up an account only takes a moment.
- Sign In or Create Account -
LucidElement

A World Without Social Media

99 posts in this topic

Recommended Posts

spartan max2
Posted (edited)
8 minutes ago, LucidElement said:

True, but not on the level it is now. Terrorist cells pray on social media to recruit individuals.

Online bullying is terrible, many suicides have happened due to it. Im not sure how somoene could kill themselves from being cyber bullied however it turns out it is a major issue.

Also, UM is a form of social media because we are interacting with others. I've seen people go at it on this site , more so then not and especially over the later years. When i joined this site in 2003, it was a completely different online world. Now it is above and beyond. I agree social media is an entertaining way for individuals to read articles and gossip. What i dont agree is how people hide behind social media to look "feel and look" tougher then they really are in real life. Someone said earlier that there was a cyber bully female who talked a lot of crap to these people, then they saw them out and about and they were nothing like they were online.

I wish social media had a filter that could filter of the fake and B'S people vs. People that are more in tune with themselves and others. People get off on making people feel bad and being an a-hole. Social media is FILLED with them. And to circle back, these people that get off on making people feel bad and trying to bully others.... in real life, they are dorky, shy, awkward people. (Not all of them but a good majority) . I say that because no one should entertain themselves by being a complete A-hole online but then in real life be someone different.

It is called the "block" or "ignore" or "unfollow" button.

I do not disagree with the bad points you listed, however I think you are grossly overlooking the positive impact.

Old problems utilize new technology  just like new solutions utilize new technology.

I am curious, from your perspective, what are the positive impacts of social media if any?

Edited by spartan max2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
 
LucidElement
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, spartan max2 said:

It is called the "block" or "ignore" or "unfollow" button.

I do not disagree with the bad points you listed, however I think you are grossly overlooking the positive impact.

Old problems utilize new technology  just like new solutions utilize new technology.

I am curious, from your perspective, what are the positive impacts of social media if any?

Social media in a postive light is tougher for me to answer since I don't use any of it. Not for being against it, just never got into it. Never really cared what individuals thought and even with Facebook, i talk to people on the phone, personally i dont really care what the people i went to High School or College with are doing lol. I keep in touch with a bunch of people, just not through social media apps. I really get turned off when i see the younger generation (im 34) but like my niece and nephew - the teenager population, just idolizing these celebrities and reality stars like Kardashian. These celebrities do nothing to show a positive reflection to kids these days, (sure they donate to charities) but they just show them a life that is more of a fairy tale then reality for most.

 

That being said, if i had to say some positives, i would say its good for small business to help advertise. It also helps people share ideas among each other but then on the flip side to that - it could turn out those people begin criticizing or bullying each other. You could always block or unfollow that person but the fact of the matter is that the negative attitude is out there and it floods social media. Think about this, there are people on this board, way way more then there were when i joined that enjoy talking down on people, and critizing people. Saru and the UM gang do a lot of good to prevent that from happening, but the fact is that those individuals are out there and they enjoy screwing with peoples minds and feelings. But in reality these people are cowards and in real life face to face they would be someone different. Social media for most is a disguise for who the person really is... How can someone find themselves if all they do is hide behind the computer and tweets?

Not to many positive aspects for me regarding social media buddy, I would say its good for small community information, information in general (if you don't watch documentaries or news). But mainstream twitter & Instagram - when people have full on discussions and rebuttals toward the discussion/articles at hand, that is where i find the most negative aspect of social media.

Which goes back to my original post question - It would be interesting to see a comparison of suicide rates and violence before and after the invent of social media.

Someone made a good point earlier - if the large corporations pulled social media off the grid for 24-48hours . no Facebook, no twitter, no Instagram it would be very interesting to see what people would do, especially the younger generation. Every time you go to dinner you know you see a bunch of kids playing on their cellphones or checking their social media. That could be a parenting issue, but it also reflects on someones post earlier where they said , that some of the younger generation have a tough time formulating thoughts or looking the person they are talking to in the eye. I think the creation of social media has made society fundamentally lazy.

Edited by LucidElement
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
spartan max2
Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, LucidElement said:

Social media in a postive light is tougher for me to answer since I don't use any of it. Not for being against it, just never got into it. Never really cared what individuals thought and even with Facebook, i talk to people on the phone, personally i dont really care what the people i went to High School or College with are doing lol. I keep in touch with a bunch of people, just not through social media apps. I really get turned off when i see the younger generation (im 34) but like my niece and nephew - the teenager population, just idolizing these celebrities and reality stars like Kardashian. These people do nothing to reflect the kids these days, they just shoe them a life that is more of a fairy tale.

 

That being said, if i had to say some positives, i would say its good for small business to help advertise. It also helps people share ideas among each other but then on the flip side to that - it could turn out those people begin criticizing or bullying each other. You could always block or unfollow that person but the fact of the matter is that the negative attitude is out there and it floods social media. Think about this, there are people on this board, way way more then there were when i joined that enjoy talking down on people, and critizing people. Saru and the UM gang do a lot of good to prevent that from happening, but the fact is that those individuals are out there and they enjoy screwing with peoples minds and feelings. But in reality these people are cowards and in real life face to face they would be someone different. Social media for most is a disguise for who the person really is... How can someone find themselves if all they do is hide behind the computer and tweets?

Not to many positive aspects for me regarding social media buddy, I would say its good for small community information, information in general (if you don't watch documentaries or news). But mainstream twitter & Instagram - when people have full on discussions and rebuttals toward the discussion/articles at hand, that is where i find the most negative aspect of social media.

Which goes back to my original post question - it would be interesting to see the violence & suicide rate after the creation of social media - vs - before.

Thanks for the reply. I'm 25 so I think we are similar generations but still different, social media and the internet was more prominent when I was growing up, I remember in middle school when texting really first became a thing lol.

Off the top of my head I know that since the 90's violence has gone down and suicide has gone up. These trends started before social media prominence though so it's hard to say what role it plays. 

I think social media does a great job of normalizing the human experience, it helps mental health awareness, puts words to feelings we often all feel that we do not realize everyone feels. 

I remember as a teenager being able to type in the internet "is it normal to "insert feelings, behavior, emotion, situation here". I know that many youth probably do that now. Helping those who feel isolated or confused when those around them might not understand. For example the gay community? I bet social media has helped those youth tons, those with clinical depression, PTSD ect. They can find others who experience what they do.

On reddit for example I am on a subreddit for my profession, for games I like, youtubers I like, etc. It creates communities around things we enjoy. It has been a great way for me to find people numbers when phones change also lol.

Lots of breaking news stories come from people using social media to make a fuss about a problem and bring awareness to it. It gives people more of a voice.

I do agree that there have been some negative aspects of it though, people comparing themselves to others "highlights" all the time can be harmful for those with low self-esteem. 

Edited by spartan max2
  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
LucidElement
19 hours ago, spartan max2 said:

Thanks for the reply. I'm 25 so I think we are similar generations but still different, social media and the internet was more prominent when I was growing up, I remember in middle school when texting really first became a thing lol.

Off the top of my head I know that since the 90's violence has gone down and suicide has gone up. These trends started before social media prominence though so it's hard to say what role it plays. 

I think social media does a great job of normalizing the human experience, it helps mental health awareness, puts words to feelings we often all feel that we do not realize everyone feels. 

I remember as a teenager being able to type in the internet "is it normal to "insert feelings, behavior, emotion, situation here". I know that many youth probably do that now. Helping those who feel isolated or confused when those around them might not understand. For example the gay community? I bet social media has helped those youth tons, those with clinical depression, PTSD ect. They can find others who experience what they do.

On reddit for example I am on a subreddit for my profession, for games I like, youtubers I like, etc. It creates communities around things we enjoy. It has been a great way for me to find people numbers when phones change also lol.

Lots of breaking news stories come from people using social media to make a fuss about a problem and bring awareness to it. It gives people more of a voice.

I do agree that there have been some negative aspects of it though, people comparing themselves to others "highlights" all the time can be harmful for those with low self-esteem. 

nicely said. so pros and cons. real catch 22 lol.

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
LightAngel
On 25.3.2019 at 6:46 PM, LucidElement said:

 

 

I wish social media had a filter that could filter of the fake and B'S people vs. People that are more in tune with themselves and others. People get off on making people feel bad and being an a-hole. Social media is FILLED with them. And to circle back, these people that get off on making people feel bad and trying to bully others.... in real life, they are dorky, shy, awkward people. (Not all of them but a good majority) . I say that because no one should entertain themselves by being a complete A-hole online but then in real life be someone different.

 

There are people online who only post online so they can point their fingers at what other people post!

They never post anything individual or interesting, but they still act like they know it all.

They are trapped inside their own little ignorant existence.

It's best to just ignore them. :)

 

  • Like 4

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
LucidElement

I just watched a great documentary on Netflix called "Fyre Festival" ...  Talk about social media issues. They used social media to spread false promises to a festival that never happened.

 

I highly recommend for those who haven't seen it, to watch it. Very interesting.

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/fyre-festival-expectations-vs-reality-2017-4

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ruby04

I’m honestly so thankful to have social media, I’m in a mums/mums to be group mostly Aussies and being able to talk to other mums about things with no judgement is helpful as hell. 

 

Partner is in a dads/dads to be group and they all support each other. 

 

It helps to have people to ask, I know mum groups you can visit exist but when you cannot go out (for what ever reason. Currently for us it’s baby is newborn so we’re avioding going out yet and I’m healing not just from her birth but the epidural couple issues there and them needing to cut me to help her out) or have people in your area that aren’t the type you want to socialise with it’s hard. 

 

Also dads found smaller jobs (tradesman) online, which helps him a lot. 

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
LucidElement

I guess what im getting at is social media is the expansion for things evil as well as good. Of course there are good things that come from social media, but like anything else negative effects happen. But i just always see social media as more negative then positive. People create these negative groups either it being 'lone wolves for terrorist activity' or hate groups... etc ... so many people are part of those groups and its because of social media that these people can link up together and either 'plan' something or its a way to share terrible ideas and thoughts. And like i said earlier, people love to hide behind a keyboard and bully people. Any online article, when you read the reviews/comments at the bottom, the majority are just people being smartasses - etc.   I know i've said it often, but when i joined this site in 2003 the community was completely different. People were all about everyone, and it was a great atmosphere. It still is, no doubt. however, there are more people on here that enjoy stirring things up and going after individuals. Im not sure why and where this came to be? When did social media become negative towards people. Its weird, as social media grew, people became more negative towards others and I do not understand why that has been the case?

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Aquila King
2 hours ago, LucidElement said:

I guess what im getting at is social media is the expansion for things evil as well as good. Of course there are good things that come from social media, but like anything else negative effects happen. But i just always see social media as more negative then positive. People create these negative groups either it being 'lone wolves for terrorist activity' or hate groups... etc ... so many people are part of those groups and its because of social media that these people can link up together and either 'plan' something or its a way to share terrible ideas and thoughts. And like i said earlier, people love to hide behind a keyboard and bully people. Any online article, when you read the reviews/comments at the bottom, the majority are just people being smartasses - etc.   I know i've said it often, but when i joined this site in 2003 the community was completely different. People were all about everyone, and it was a great atmosphere. It still is, no doubt. however, there are more people on here that enjoy stirring things up and going after individuals. Im not sure why and where this came to be? When did social media become negative towards people. Its weird, as social media grew, people became more negative towards others and I do not understand why that has been the case?

People are more negative on social media because they're able to say things (often anonymously) that they couldn't say in public without social repercussions.

As I've said before, social media merely amplifies what's already there. The good becomes great, and the bad becomes worse. There are numerous examples one could site of charity organizations that wouldn't exist today without it, and other civil rights movements were only spurred on thanks to social media. While at the same time there are plenty of examples of hate groups that now exist due to social media.

It's merely a tool that does both good and bad. It exists now, and apart from the apocalypse it's never going away. The best thing to do is to go after the people misusing it rather than the platform itself.

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
LightAngel
On 2.4.2019 at 1:23 PM, Ruby04 said:

I’m in a mums/mums to be group mostly Aussies and being able to talk to other mums about things with no judgement is helpful as hell. 

 

 

By the way.

Congratulations! :)

 

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ruby04
Just now, LightAngel said:

 

By the way.

Congratulations! :)

 

Thankyou, I can’t believe how tiny and perfect she is

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
LightAngel
19 minutes ago, Ruby04 said:

Thankyou, I can’t believe how tiny and perfect she is

 

It's wonderful that your baby is healthy and happy.


I'm so happy for you. ;)

 

  • Like 1
  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
jmccr8

This is the only social media I use and for the most part when at work my phone is in the car unless I am expecting a work-related call. One time I had my phone with me at work because I was expecting a call from an inspector and I had a chat app that I used to talk with one person. For some reason, a girl that I do not know contacted me and was trying to chat me up and I asked who are you and why are you contacting me and that I am at work and expecting a business call. She kept trying to chat it up an told me she was feeling naughty so I told her that 'look I am standing on a 20' ladder trying to do something and need both hands and didn't care how naughty she was feeling".

I can live without being digitally tethered to the rest of the world, I work alone most of the time and am quite comfortable to be left with my own thoughts when working. When I am here then fine I enjoy the discussions because I come here to relax and read mostly.

jmccr8

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
LightAngel
On 23.3.2019 at 6:55 AM, LucidElement said:

Imagine a world without social media. I’m a mellanial and I do not use Facebook and never had a Instagram, Snapchat or Twitter. I was just reading an article that talked about what the world would be like without social media? 

 

 

 

 

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Impedancer

I grew up without any social media and hardly any mobile phones if your friend wasnt home you had to wait for him or her to call. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
LucidElement
2 hours ago, LightAngel said:

 

 

 

EXACTLY!!!! lol. well done.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
LucidElement
33 minutes ago, Impedancer said:

I grew up without any social media and hardly any mobile phones if your friend wasnt home you had to wait for him or her to call. 

ya im 34. I remember those days. The old "call back" ... haha ... even if he was home the parents would say hes not home he will call you back haha..

  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
LightAngel
16 hours ago, LucidElement said:

EXACTLY!!!! lol. well done.

 

I knew you would like it! :D

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Desertrat56
On 3/23/2019 at 3:18 AM, Vlad the Mighty said:

We would never know that the Fake News Media are VERY VERY BAD. :( 

I knew in the 80's before social media and even before I found internet.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Goddess of the Mist
On 4/2/2019 at 9:55 AM, LucidElement said:

I guess what im getting at is social media is the expansion for things evil as well as good. Of course there are good things that come from social media, but like anything else negative effects happen. But i just always see social media as more negative then positive. People create these negative groups either it being 'lone wolves for terrorist activity' or hate groups... etc ... so many people are part of those groups and its because of social media that these people can link up together and either 'plan' something or its a way to share terrible ideas and thoughts. And like i said earlier, people love to hide behind a keyboard and bully people. Any online article, when you read the reviews/comments at the bottom, the majority are just people being smartasses - etc.   I know i've said it often, but when i joined this site in 2003 the community was completely different. People were all about everyone, and it was a great atmosphere. It still is, no doubt. however, there are more people on here that enjoy stirring things up and going after individuals. Im not sure why and where this came to be? When did social media become negative towards people. Its weird, as social media grew, people became more negative towards others and I do not understand why that has been the case?

I don't understand why either. I find it's a lot like real life where you have to work really hard to separate yourself from the negativity. 

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Dumbledore the Awesome
On 24/03/2019 at 12:37 AM, Aquila King said:

Oh look. People reminiscing of the "good ol days" of yesteryear as if things were better in the past. What great totally original insight people have. Much wow. :rolleyes:

So you can't imagine a happier time than now? 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Aquila King
8 hours ago, Dumbledore the Awesome said:

So you can't imagine a happier time than now? 

I'm sure that in many ways for many people, there were certain aspects of the past that were better than today. Though overall in a broad general sense, society is better off now than at any other point in human history.

The vast majority of human history is littered with war, bloodshed, famine, disease, human rights abuses, etc. It wasn't even that long ago that segregation was law, and LGBTQ rights didn't exist in the slightest. Things may have been quite fine and dandy for your average white family back then living in middle America, but that sure isn't the case for a lot of other people back in the day.

History is just that, history. Better off thinking of addressing problems in the present in hopes of building a better future.

  • Like 2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Desertrat56
Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Aquila King said:

I'm sure that in many ways for many people, there were certain aspects of the past that were better than today. Though overall in a broad general sense, society is better off now than at any other point in human history.

The vast majority of human history is littered with war, bloodshed, famine, disease, human rights abuses, etc. It wasn't even that long ago that segregation was law, and LGBTQ rights didn't exist in the slightest. Things may have been quite fine and dandy for your average white family back then living in middle America, but that sure isn't the case for a lot of other people back in the day.

History is just that, history. Better off thinking of addressing problems in the present in hopes of building a better future.

Most of the things you mention are still going on, even in our priveledged 1st world society.  War, bloodshed, disease, human rights abuse etc.  We don't have famine in the 1st world countries, but there is famine in many parts of the 3rd world and a lot of that is due to OUR wars and exploitation.

Edited by Desertrat56

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Aquila King
13 minutes ago, Desertrat56 said:

Most of the things you mention are still going on, even in our priveledged 1st world society.  War, bloodshed, disease, human rights abuse etc.  We don't have famine in the 1st world countries, but there is famine in many parts of the 3rd world and a lot of that is due to OUR wars and exploitation.

True. We still have a ways to go, but there's a lot less of it now compared to back then. That's all I'm saying dude.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.