Chupacabra Suspected of Killing Second Person

[papageorge1]

18 minutes ago, esoteric_toad said:

A death, accidentally, intentional or  unknown usually makes the news. Ignore the blood thing and this should still be found in the news. It's not, that brings to question whether anyone even died, let alone from a non existent blood sucking bogey man/critter. I

What? Do you think every death gets serious international news coverage. 

We don’t know how much local coverage this got.

[esoteric_toad]

1 minute ago, papageorge1 said:

What? Do you think every death gets serious international news coverage. 

We don’t know how much local coverage this got.

It doesn't seem to even gotten news in Honduras. You know you can look up news in other countries and even cities and towns.

[papageorge1]

1 minute ago, esoteric_toad said:

It doesn't seem to even gotten news in Honduras. You know you can look up news in other countries and even cities and towns.

It wouldn’t even be in English at that point. And in a rural area I don’t know what is to be expected.

[freetoroam]

14 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

I see you think you know more about this case than the article writer. My guess is that you guess at a lot of the facts to support a desired conclusion.

I do not "think", i am stating the obvious.

The man WAS found 3 days later according to the article.

The temperatures there ARE hot according to the weather experts.

A dead body WILL decompose quicker in hotter weather. The other part showing what happens to a body are FACTS.

What part do you think i was "thinking" or guessing about? 

Edited March 27, 2019 by freetoroam

[Minimalists]

Livor mortis happens when the blood settles in the body...After death and the heart stops pumping the blood settles in the body...This is where you get the purplish color on people that have passed. Thats also how they can tell if a body has been moved....Every point where the body is touching a hard surface there will be a purplish stain where the blood has settled and soaked into the skin. And as far as embalming in Honduras or Central America period it's not the custom to embalm in most Catholic countries.... They have only recently institued it in Spain and Germany.

Hell, as far as that goes embalming did not come into custom in the US until around 1850  or so...Abraham Lincoln spent about 6 or 7 days on a train between Philadelphia and Illnois and was embalmed so much between those two cities, well anyway I won't go into all that here.

Edited March 27, 2019 by Alien Origins

[esoteric_toad]

Just now, papageorge1 said:

It wouldn’t even be in English at that point. And in a rural area I don’t know what is to be expected.

Yet somehow a woo-woo site gets the news, in English apparently? Even if it wasn't in English, if it were in any Honduran news site google would be able to find it. Google translate could translate it, if it were there to be found.

I couldn't find anything. Finding a dead person gone missing would most certainly make the news.

[papageorge1]

12 minutes ago, esoteric_toad said:

Yet somehow a woo-woo site gets the news, in English apparently? Even if it wasn't in English, if it were in any Honduran news site google would be able to find it. Google translate could translate it, if it were there to be found.

I couldn't find anything. Finding a dead person gone missing would most certainly make the news.

What’s your point? Are you trying to make the debate about if it’s all just a fabrication? I can’t guarantee any such things or make this a personal research project.

 

[esoteric_toad]

Just now, papageorge1 said:

What’s your point? Are you trying to make the debate about if it’s all just a fabrication? I can’t guarantee any such things or make this a personal research project.

 

I wouldn't expect you to. Just pointing out that this story is junk. It's another account presented by web pages that depend on people accepting nonsense. This story is easily ignored with virtually no serious "research". A person goes missing, is found 3 days later dead and no news in any format EXCEPT on questionable web pages. It is bogus.

[papageorge1]

2 minutes ago, esoteric_toad said:

I wouldn't expect you to. Just pointing out that this story is junk. It's another account presented by web pages that depend on people accepting nonsense. This story is easily ignored with virtually no serious "research". A person goes missing, is found 3 days later dead and no news in any format EXCEPT on questionable web pages. It is bogus.

I really think such reports should not be so quickly dismissed from something like Coast to Coast.

Crypto claims are always  fringe stuff and I believe some sightings are likely real nonetheless.

 

[esoteric_toad]

Just now, papageorge1 said:

I really think such reports should not be so quickly dismissed from something like Coast to Coast.

Crypto claims are always  fringe stuff and I believe some sightings are likely real nonetheless.

 

I get what you are saying, I really do. Even though I am a skeptic I can imagine that most claims of events that fall into the paranormal/alien/cryptid categories get ignored by the mainstream media (unless it is around Halloween). Stories involving claimed deaths though typically do not go unreported. While the claim of chupacabra being involved might be ignored, someone going missing and being found dead certainly would not. That is what makes this story unbelievable, nothing reported in the news about the dead guy, never mind the claims.

[papageorge1]

4 minutes ago, esoteric_toad said:

I get what you are saying, I really do. Even though I am a skeptic I can imagine that most claims of events that fall into the paranormal/alien/cryptid categories get ignored by the mainstream media (unless it is around Halloween). Stories involving claimed deaths though typically do not go unreported. While the claim of chupacabra being involved might be ignored, someone going missing and being found dead certainly would not. That is what makes this story unbelievable, nothing reported in the news about the dead guy, never mind the claims.

And I question how much you know about this case or what to expect to find on this case or if you know all research avenues and etc..

I am not blindly dismissing this story.

[esoteric_toad]

4 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

And I question how much you know about this case or what to expect to find on this case or if you know all research avenues and etc..

I am not blindly dismissing this story.

That's ok, believe whatever you like

[papageorge1]

56 minutes ago, esoteric_toad said:

That's ok, believe whatever you like

Sounds like you are lashing out to make me sound trite. I believe not what I like but what I find most reasonable to believe when all things are considered.

Typically in discussion with those of your ilk, I will next hear that I believe this WAS a Chupacabra incident (even though I would never say that from the little I know).

[esoteric_toad]

2 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

Sounds like you are lashing out to make me sound trite. I believe not what I like but what I find most reasonable to believe when all things are considered.

Typically in discussion with those of your ilk, I will next hear that I believe this WAS a Chupacabra incident (even though I would never say that from the little I know).

Holy crap, if you wish to believe whatever it is you wish to believe then go for it, that certainly isn't up to me.

I made a statement about a news story that seems less than reputable. 

There wasn't even a discussion to be had really. More of an observation.

[the13bats]

2 hours ago, papageorge1 said:

I see you think you know more about this case than the article writer. My guess is that you guess at a lot of the facts to support a desired conclusion.

Thats what you do in every case george.

 

2 hours ago, papageorge1 said:

Yes, I read my posts and find them of substantially higher standard than your trashy attempts at nought but insults.

I wasnt trying to insult you on the contrary i was wanting you to explain the rather ridiculous and contridictive things you posted that somehow stories about trumps antics are less trashy than stories about paranormal topics and typical of you your reply is to try to swing the spot light and use smoke and mirrors to avoid admitting yet again you have zero.

I will have to disagree with you stories about a guy having affairs with pornstars and paying them hush money while boasting its a good idea to just grab women by the.....isnt trashy but a story of a killing or accidental death blamed on a beast of folklore is trashy.

Edited March 27, 2019 by the13bats

[papageorge1]

6 minutes ago, esoteric_toad said:

Holy crap, if you wish to believe whatever it is you wish to believe then go for it, 

My point was that I don't believe what I wish to believe. I use reason and judge likeliness considering everything I know. That was your allegation that 'I believe what I want to believe' that I was refuting in that post.

[papageorge1]

9 minutes ago, the13bats said:

Thats what you do in every case george.

 

I consider all possibilities for reasonableness is actually what I do, bats. 

11 minutes ago, the13bats said:

 

I wasnt trying to insult you on the contrary i was wanting you to explain the rather ridiculous and contridictive things you posted that somehow stories about trumps antics are less trashy than stories about paranormal topics and typical of you your reply is to try to swing the spot light and use smoke and mirrors to avoid admitting yet again you have zero.

 

To explain for you, I was saying the mainstream media is more concerned with Trump's antics than paranormal/crypto/alien stuff. I did not say Trump's antics were less trashy than anything.

[the13bats]

8 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

I consider all possibilities for reasonableness is actually what I do, bats. 

To explain for you, I was saying the mainstream media is more concerned with Trump's antics than paranormal/crypto/alien stuff. I did not say Trump's antics were less trashy than anything.

Go back reread, You implied media was concerned that reporting paranormal would look trashy, but reporting trumps antics dont look trashy, you were speaking for and stating your opinion about the media now that you tried to clear it you simply should have left out the word "trashy" and just said media likes to cover trump more than covering the paranormal, well of course they do he is potus.

 

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I consider all possibilities for reasonableness is actually what I do, bats.

Your opinion of reasonableness Is always biased to the paranormal, which isnt reasonable except to you.

Thanks for the clarification.

[papageorge1]

4 minutes ago, the13bats said:

 

Your opinion of reasonableness Is always biased to the paranormal, which isnt reasonable except to you.

 

And I feel I analyze fairly considering all sides. And perhaps you have the anti-paranormal bias thing going on. That's my honest analysis here.

[GlitterRose]

10 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

And I feel I analyze fairly considering all sides. And perhaps you have the anti-paranormal bias thing going on. That's my honest analysis here.

Your screen name always makes me think of Mr. Papageorgio in Vegas Vacation. 

Your usual table, Mr. Papageorgio?

Edited March 27, 2019 by GlitterRose

[the13bats]

18 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

And I feel I analyze fairly considering all sides. And perhaps you have the anti-paranormal bias thing going on. That's my honest analysis here.

Im sure you do feel that way but it doesnt mean its correct and not highly flawed.

While it might very well seem to some who are short sighted that i am biased against paranormal explanations im not at all biased against any explanation but rather i take what real evidence there is anecdotal has very little merits to me, i then gauge what is most likely

Example of this thread, an unconfirmed, alleged undiscovered crypto or paranormal creature/being killed a guy coming home from a night or partying is the most likey

Or

The guy was a victim of human crime, killed by accident  died of a health condition or a known creature was involved.

Yes, i find the prosaic explanations far more plausible that the paranormal, you dont, so be it.

[papageorge1]

40 minutes ago, the13bats said:

 

Example of this thread, an unconfirmed, alleged undiscovered crypto or paranormal creature/being killed a guy coming home from a night or partying is the most likey

 

Can you show where I said the crypto is most likely? After you exaggerate my position then you accuse it of going too far (a common debating technique of yours that I have to keep pointing out). 

[the13bats]

George, the partial quote you just did of me i was giving my opinion of this case,

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Example of this thread, an unconfirmed, alleged undiscovered crypto or paranormal creature/being killed a guy coming home from a night or partying is the most likey

^ that isnt what i believe, it was one side i believe the prosaic side.

George, im not gonna get drawn into your bait and switch games of asking me to prove the obvious,

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 Papameter…..64% Chance of Paranormal       36% Chance of only normal

^ taken from nanny cam thread.

you mostly tend to give the higher % to paranormal.

Have a good one.

[papageorge1]

34 minutes ago, the13bats said:

George, the partial quote you just did of me i was giving my opinion of this case,

^ that isnt what i believe, it was one side i believe the prosaic side.

George, im not gonna get drawn into your bait and switch games of asking me to prove the obvious,

^ taken from nanny cam thread.

you mostly tend to give the higher % to paranormal.

Have a good one.

You said I said the Chupacabra explanation was most likely and I asked where you got that from and you did the switch. (because I never said it was 'most likely')

The nanny cam is a totally different subject than the Chupacabra case and I'll stick by and support what I said there.

[the13bats]

8 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

You said I said the Chupacabra explanation was most likely and I asked where you got that from and you did the switch. (because I never said it was 'most likely')

The nanny cam is a totally different subject than the Chupacabra case and I'll stick by and support what I said there.

Okay i see you need extra attention tonight, can someone please hug george.

The namny cam case is one of countless that you lean paranormal,

And this case, okay then what is the most likely explanation here according to george.