Eldorado Posted March 29, 2019 #1 Share Posted March 29, 2019 "Adultery and gay sex will be punishable by stoning to death and the limbs of convicted thieves will be amputated under a new law set to come into effect from next week in the tiny southeast Asian kingdom of Brunei. A new strict Sharia penal code is to be enforced from next Wednesday defying heavy criticism that has kept the brutal provisions on hold for the last four years. Homosexuality is already illegal in the former British protectorate, but now it will become a capital offence. The law only applies to Muslims and punishment will also be “witnessed by a group of Muslims.”" Full report at the UK Telegraph: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/03/28/brunei-set-introduce-death-stoning-adultery-gay-sex/ AT WPTV Miami: https://www.wptv.com/news/world/brunei-to-punish-homosexual-sex-and-adultery-with-death-penalty-by-stoning 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted March 29, 2019 #2 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Sounds a nice, peaceful place to raise a family and be happy... not. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odas Posted March 29, 2019 #3 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Brunei was not that strickt in the past. What happened? Anyway, any one way tickets to Mars still available? One, please. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted March 29, 2019 #4 Share Posted March 29, 2019 4 hours ago, and then said: Sounds a nice, peaceful place to raise a family and be happy... not. it's a wonderful place if you are a Muslim, and its citizen. or if you are a visitor and follow their rules. it's on my to go list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted March 29, 2019 #5 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, aztek said: it's a wonderful place if you are a Muslim, and its citizen. or if you are a visitor and follow their rules. it's on my to go list. I'll take your word for it but I don't care to travel to any place where they stone human beings to death or amputate their limbs for a crime. No matter what the crime may be. Execute a proven murderer, sure. Throw stones at women, (let's be honest about who'd be punished) NO. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted March 29, 2019 #6 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 24 minutes ago, and then said: I'll take your word for it but I don't care to travel to any place where they stone human beings to death or amputate their limbs for a crime. No matter what the crime may be. Execute a proven murderer, sure. Throw stones at women, (let's be honest about who'd be punished) NO. we live in a country where police can kill basically anyone they want, and get away, and they do so, over a thousand a year. we live in a country whose military invaded dozen of countries and kills thousands of innocents all over the world, i do not think high horse morals work for us here. there are much more examples but i'll stop at these 2 Edited March 29, 2019 by aztek 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted April 1, 2019 Author #7 Share Posted April 1, 2019 Related news.... "Sir Elton John has backed George Clooney's call to boycott hotels owned by Brunei, following new laws that make gay sex punishable by death. The laws, which come into force on 3 April, mean anyone found guilty of homosexual sex or adultery in the tiny southeast Asian country could be stoned or whipped to death." Source (Sky News): https://news.sky.com/story/sir-elton-john-backs-clooney-boycott-call-over-bruneis-gay-sex-law-11680080 At Fox News: https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/elton-john-joins-call-for-boycott-of-sultan-of-bruneis-hotels 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted April 1, 2019 #8 Share Posted April 1, 2019 On 29/03/2019 at 9:08 PM, aztek said: we live in a country where police can kill basically anyone they want, and get away, and they do so, over a thousand a year. we live in a country whose military invaded dozen of countries and kills thousands of innocents all over the world, i do not think high horse morals work for us here. there are much more examples but i'll stop at these 2 Utter piffle ! That is False Equivalence. The UK doesn't do either of those things, and WE find the laws of Brunei to be barbaric, pre-medieval and repugnant. American should do likewise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted April 1, 2019 #9 Share Posted April 1, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, RoofGardener said: Utter piffle ! That is False Equivalence. The UK doesn't do either of those things, and WE find the laws of Brunei to be barbaric, pre-medieval and repugnant. American should do likewise. you are no better than us, in fact i think you are worst. you do the same things we do, we are allies, you bomb and kill innocents just like we do overseas. the concept of False Equivalence. does not apply here. your moral high horse is dead for a long time Edited April 1, 2019 by aztek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted April 2, 2019 #10 Share Posted April 2, 2019 13 hours ago, aztek said: you are no better than us, in fact i think you are worst. you do the same things we do, we are allies, you bomb and kill innocents just like we do overseas. the concept of False Equivalence. does not apply here. your moral high horse is dead for a long time The concept of False Equivalence certainly DOES apply here ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted April 2, 2019 #11 Share Posted April 2, 2019 On 3/29/2019 at 4:08 PM, aztek said: we live in a country where police can kill basically anyone they want, and get away, and they do so, over a thousand a year. we live in a country whose military invaded dozen of countries and kills thousands of innocents all over the world, i do not think high horse morals work for us here. there are much more examples but i'll stop at these 2 The morals I spoke of were personal to me, not the country. I don't think the situation with the cops is quite as bad as you do but I could be wrong...it's certainly been the case in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Red Devil Posted April 3, 2019 #12 Share Posted April 3, 2019 On 3/30/2019 at 8:08 AM, aztek said: we live in a country where police can kill basically anyone they want, and get away, and they do so, over a thousand a year. we live in a country whose military invaded dozen of countries and kills thousands of innocents all over the world, i do not think high horse morals work for us here. there are much more examples but i'll stop at these 2 wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Red Devil Posted April 3, 2019 #13 Share Posted April 3, 2019 On 4/2/2019 at 6:13 AM, aztek said: you are no better than us, in fact i think you are worst. you do the same things we do, we are allies, you bomb and kill innocents just like we do overseas. the concept of False Equivalence. does not apply here. your moral high horse is dead for a long time double wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Red Devil Posted April 3, 2019 #14 Share Posted April 3, 2019 The law only applies to Muslims the article says. So if you're caught in the act you can just claim to be non religious and get away with it can you? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susanc241 Posted April 3, 2019 #15 Share Posted April 3, 2019 What is scarier is that if someone really wanted to implicate you falsely they only have to convince three others to give evidence that you did something (that you didn’t in fact do) and you could be looking at a death sentence. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Grey Posted April 3, 2019 #16 Share Posted April 3, 2019 10 hours ago, Black Red Devil said: The law only applies to Muslims the article says. So if you're caught in the act you can just claim to be non religious and get away with it can you? Non-Muslims aren't subject to Sharia Law, afaik. If they knew you were gay but also not Muslim, they may just beat your relentlessly. Homosexuality is very "harram". Looking forward to more chaos as Islam butts heads with the SJW agenda and the PC crowd folds like a house of cards. School revolt as Muslim parents object to LGBT equality classes for their children and petition for the subject to be dropped from the curriculum Islam and Christianity find common ground here. Where the Christians have failed, Islam is beginning to curb the tide of propaganda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Red Devil Posted April 3, 2019 #17 Share Posted April 3, 2019 8 hours ago, Dark_Grey said: Non-Muslims aren't subject to Sharia Law, afaik. If they knew you were gay but also not Muslim, they may just beat your relentlessly. Homosexuality is very "harram". Looking forward to more chaos as Islam butts heads with the SJW agenda and the PC crowd folds like a house of cards. School revolt as Muslim parents object to LGBT equality classes for their children and petition for the subject to be dropped from the curriculum Islam and Christianity find common ground here. Where the Christians have failed, Islam is beginning to curb the tide of propaganda. The day a Govt allows religious beliefs to influence law and regulations is the day civilisation starts taking backward steps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted April 3, 2019 #18 Share Posted April 3, 2019 Quote Non-Muslims are not exempt — they face exactly the same punishments for adultery or sodomy if their partner is Muslim. It is not clear if two non-Muslims would be punished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aztek Posted April 3, 2019 #19 Share Posted April 3, 2019 42 minutes ago, Black Red Devil said: The day a Govt allows religious beliefs to influence law and regulations is the day civilisation starts taking backward steps. were living under a rock for last 2 decades, it already has. but that is not always bad, what is bad is putting mental disorder as something positive, and influence regulations and laws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Red Devil Posted April 4, 2019 #20 Share Posted April 4, 2019 27 minutes ago, aztek said: were living under a rock for last 2 decades, it already has. but that is not always bad, what is bad is putting mental disorder as something positive, and influence regulations and laws Talk about living under a rock for the last 2 decades. Homosexuality WAS DISMISSED as a mental disorder more than 2 decades ago. link 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habitat Posted April 4, 2019 #21 Share Posted April 4, 2019 This is what happens when oil revenues are so high that government can go off on all kinds of tangents without having to concentrate on running a country properly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted April 4, 2019 #22 Share Posted April 4, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Habitat said: This is what happens when oil revenues are so high that government can go off on all kinds of tangents without having to concentrate on running a country properly. Remember when kids just went to school to learn to read and write effectively, perform mathematics at a level to allow them to function in the world or to achieve advanced degrees and become engineers and so on? Schools are not the proper location to be teaching children WHAT to believe. It should be about learning basic skills to function in life with as little social programming as possible. In America, we've gone completely off that path and our scores in comparison to other nations are indicative of that. Edited April 4, 2019 by and then 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldorado Posted May 24, 2019 Author #23 Share Posted May 24, 2019 Related news... "Sultan of Brunei returns honorary Oxford degree after backlash against death penalty for gay sex and adultery" At the South China Morning Post: https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3011592/sultan-brunei-returns-honorary-oxford-degree-after 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psyche101 Posted May 28, 2019 #24 Share Posted May 28, 2019 Shows how toothless the UN is. He really should be overthrow and locked away. Money has a loud voice it seems. Handed back his degree, geez. If he believes Sharia is valid he shouldn't have it to begin with. I wonder if he also suffers from the delusion that the gay lifestyle is a mental disorder. The man is a disgrace to humanity as a whole. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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