Native American legends about the Vikings

[Tatetopa]

Many peoples in many boats from many places. OK

By the way, thanks folks for cleaning up Wikipedia.   I appreciate that.

[Hanslune]

13 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

Many peoples in many boats from many places. OK

By the way, thanks folks for cleaning up Wikipedia.   I appreciate that.

I often did that in the past and also added in additional info. Sometimes material from these discussions. The last page I actually created was this one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_G1-d

The poor little pyramid did not not have a page so that had to rectified.

Its always interesting to look at the history to see who has contributed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pyramid_G1-d&action=history

[Swede]

20 hours ago, Piney said:

@Hanslune  @Swede  Take a look at this gem. 

https://lenape-epic.blogspot.com/

There are no forum-suitable words...

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[Swede]

20 hours ago, jaylemurph said:

I wonder if Gottlander might be an alternative translations. By the timeframe we’re discussing (which I assume to be the Middle Ages, but some of this is like trying to date Lord of the Rings), Goths referred to (one of two) specific groups of “barbarian” tribes. 

—Jaylemurph 

Good point. On various levels, the authenticity of the runes has been questioned for decades. As you note, the various discrepancies lead to a rather floating timeline. Though the discrepancies are consistent with a modern individual with only partial knowledge of the purported time period.

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[Swede]

20 hours ago, Piney said:

Wellllll.....This chucklehead does say I'm a Norse Catholic. 

So you've got that going for you, eh?

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[jaylemurph]

20 hours ago, Piney said:

Wellllll.....This chucklehead does say I'm a Norse Catholic. 

I thought the Lutherans had hunted those to extinction!

—Jaylemurph 

[Piney]

3 minutes ago, jaylemurph said:

I thought the Lutherans had hunted those to extinction!

 

A small group ran to North America and became the Lenape.

Of course in this fools eyes, all the Central and Southeastern Algonquian were Lenape even though they spoke a dialect of Algonquian that is as far away from Lenape as Alsatian is to English.  

[Hanslune]

1 hour ago, Swede said:

There are no forum-suitable words...

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  For fan i helvete!

[Piney]

49 minutes ago, Hanslune said:

  For fan i helvete!

Helvetii? 

[Hanslune]

19 minutes ago, Piney said:

Helvetii? 

Swedish for Hell

 

For should be written för

Edited April 20, 2019 by Hanslune

[Piney]

1 hour ago, Hanslune said:

  For fan i helvete!

*For the Devil in Hell*

I keep forgetting about the Google translate thingy. 

[Hanslune]

27 minutes ago, Piney said:

*For the Devil in Hell*

I keep forgetting about the Google translate thingy. 

I used the Danish to Swedish translate.

Maybe the Norse who wrote Kensington rune stone used their version of Google translate thingy - asking one the guys from (what in the more world would be) Sweden......

Edited April 21, 2019 by Hanslune

[jaylemurph]

1 hour ago, Piney said:

Helvetii? 

Oh yeah: the great Swiss-Swedish War of 294 CE. 

‘Twas that that started all that Germanic migration during the last years of the Roman Empire. Cuckoo Clock versus cow-horn helmet.

—Jaylemurph 

[Harte]

I thought that was the cheese-meatball incident.

Harte

[lilthor]

3 hours ago, Harte said:

I thought that was the cheese-meatball incident.

Harte

No need to stir up hard feelings with inflammatory language.

Best call it a "matter".

[Wistman]

22 hours ago, Hanslune said:

I often did that in the past and also added in additional info. Sometimes material from these discussions. The last page I actually created was this one:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_G1-d

The poor little pyramid did not not have a page so that had to rectified.

Its always interesting to look at the history to see who has contributed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pyramid_G1-d&action=history

OT:  I'm such a one trick pony, but this passage on Wikipedia's Serapeum/Saqqara page is misleading:

Quote

Working as an administrator during the reign of his father, Khaemweset, a son of Ramesses II (1279–1213 BC) of the nineteenth dynasty, ordered that a tunnel, now known as "The Lesser Vaults", be excavated through one of the mountains at the site and designed with side chambers to contain large granite sarcophagi weighing up to 70 tonnes each, to hold the mummified remains of the bulls.^[1][2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serapeum_of_Saqqara

You needn't take my word for it, but the huge granite sarcophagi are NOT in the Lesser Vaults, but the Greater Vaults, which were created after the TIP.  Can this be changed/corrected?  I've had more than one person quote this passage to me, sadly.

<Sorry, back to topic>

[Hanslune]

9 minutes ago, The Wistman said:

OT:  I'm such a one trick pony, but this passage on Wikipedia's Serapeum/Saqqara page is misleading:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serapeum_of_Saqqara

You needn't take my word for it, but the huge granite sarcophagi are NOT in the Lesser Vaults, but the Greater Vaults, which were created after the TIP.  Can this be changed/corrected?  I've had more than one person quote this passage to me, sadly.

<Sorry, back to topic>

The editing on that Wikipedia page is not limited in any way. Just click on the edit next to the title

You will get this:

...and you can edit it. That edit will then show up in the history.

I could do it but it would be better for you to do it yourself so you can correct other mistakes you come across - it is very helpful. Easy too and another Wikipedia editor will be created!

 

 

Edited April 21, 2019 by Hanslune

[Wistman]

9 minutes ago, Hanslune said:

The editing on that Wikipedia page is not limited in any way. Just click on the edit next to the title

You will get this:

...and you can edit it. That edit will then show up in the history.

I could do it but it would be better for you to do it yourself so you can correct other mistakes you come across - it is very helpful. Easy too and another Wikipedia editor will be created!

 

 

Thanks for the explanation.  Will do.

[Piney]

2 hours ago, Hanslune said:

I could do it but it would be better for you to do it yourself so you can correct other mistakes you come across - it is very helpful. Easy too and another Wikipedia editor will be created!

@The Wistman  There's a need for some new blood in the "Wiki Police". A lot of us have tired of it. 

[Unusual Tournament]

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/archaeology-and-history/magazine/2016/11-12/space-archaeology-viking-settlement-excavation-canada/

[Hanslune]

2 hours ago, Piney said:

@The Wistman  There's a need for some new blood in the "Wiki Police". A lot of us have tired of it. 

What you tired of the buckets of gold and free dinners in the finest Venetian hotels?

[Unusual Tournament]

Vikings in Mexico

https://historyandthings.wordpress.com/2014/06/02/vikings-in-mexico/

interesting legend. hope you'all enjoy the read.  

[Unusual Tournament]

Did the Vikings Stay? Vatican Files May Offer Clues

In interviews and a new book, Dr. Heyerdahl and Per Lilliestrom, a Swedish map expert, claim that thousands of their hardy Norse ancestors may have prospered in the land that Leif Ericson christened ''Vinland'' in A.D. 1000. In their view, the colonists spread as far south as today's New York City, fishing, tending farm animals and cutting timber for several hundred years under the solicitous eye of the Catholic Church in Rome.

https://www.nytimes.com/2000/12/19/science/did-the-vikings-stay-vatican-files-may-offer-clues.html

[jaylemurph]

Thor Heyerdahl is pretty well known as a racist. I’d take anything he writes with more than a grain of salt. 

Piney and I have discussed him more than once. 

—Jaylemurph 

[Piney]

36 minutes ago, jaylemurph said:

Thor Heyerdahl is pretty well known as a racist. I’d take anything he writes with more than a grain of salt. 

Piney and I have discussed him more than once. 

—Jaylemurph 

And those very books we discussed still sit over my head.