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Alex Jones admits he is nuts....about time!

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Minimalists
14 minutes ago, marsman said:

 

jones terminology..........not mine

OK, that I can buy.....:D

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bee
3 hours ago, Alien Origins said:

What elite is that?

 

Maybe these are SOME of them..... from what I've gathered they could also be called the Deep State
or Shadow Government - individuals and groups working outside the democratic process who have
influence behind the scenes... 

waddayathink..... do they fit the bill.... more where that came from on the link ^_^

wikipedia

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Kismit
4 hours ago, bee said:

 

I don't need to watch it... like I said before

AJ has admitted he basically got it wrong over Sandy Hook and has tried to explain why..

 

One of the clips played during the deposition was from 2 weeks after the beginning of the lawsuit. That is a lot of years of harassment. 

But the whole point was the amount of provably falsefied information was pretty astounding. Stuff he tells his viewers is true but in fact is a deliberate click bait lie.

Believing he is not trying to suck people in in other cases is pretty niaeve.

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darkmoonlady
4 hours ago, bee said:

 

Maybe these are SOME of them..... from what I've gathered they could also be called the Deep State
or Shadow Government - individuals and groups working outside the democratic process who have
influence behind the scenes... 

waddayathink..... do they fit the bill.... more where that came from on the link ^_^

wikipedia

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Bee Alex Jones probably knows five names on your list, less if he had to actually name what they do or work. His entire "research" can be summed up by going to a conspiracy reddit and picking a name, looking up a news article and then making up something that sounds salacious about them. He posts his made up story on Info Wars, creates a video where he pumps himself up into a frenzy and posts it. If he really gets going Fox news will mention it, not really questioning any of the so called "facts" but theyll say we'll let YOU decide. There, Alex Jones in a nutshell. Throw in cheap supplements at a crazy mark up and bam there you go. He isnt deep or knowledgeable, he is opportunistic, greedy and soulless.

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marsman
4 hours ago, bee said:

 

I don't need to watch it... like I said before

AJ has admitted he basically got it wrong over Sandy Hook and has tried to explain why..

 

 

yes....claiming psychosis to avoid paying all legal bills and compensation payouts!

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Rlyeh
8 hours ago, bee said:

 

I don't need to watch it... like I said before

AJ has admitted he basically got it wrong over Sandy Hook and has tried to explain why..

 

Because he's delusional.  Anyone who bothered to look up some of the crap he says already knew this.

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bee
3 hours ago, darkmoonlady said:

Bee Alex Jones probably knows five names on your list, less if he had to actually name what they do or work

 

oh I think it's safe to say he's onto them....

for example an Infowars article from a couple of years ago...

 https://www.infowars.com/cfr-member-calls-on-elites-to-rise-up-against-ignorant-masses/

In a column for Foreign Policy Magazine, Council on Foreign Relations member James Traub argues that the elite need to “rise up” against the “mindlessly angry” ignorant masses in order to prevent globalization from being derailed by the populist revolt that led to Brexit and the rise of Donald Trump.

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Reaction to the article was piercingly vitriolic, with one respondent commenting, “If you’ve ever wondered what the conversations between aristocrats were like as the peasants were storming the Bastille, I suspect some of them were a lot like this Foreign Policy article.”

The piece is yet another stunning example of how disconnected elites are to the people whom they insult and wish to rule over.

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bee
13 hours ago, Rlyeh said:

Any "elite" would be laughing their heads off at this idiot.

 

you think they would be sipping champagne and laughing over someone who is as direct and
passionate and opposed to them as this... someone who commands the respect of millions who
have followed him through the years and who's videos on a level playing field get millions and
sometimes maybe billions of views......

I don't think so....

hence their determination to remove him from major internet platforms...
and why Sandy Hook has been used as a weapon against him... because
they can get people all emotional and wound up with it... using their Media outlets
to present it all in a certain way..

 

  

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Kismit
37 minutes ago, bee said:

 

you think they would be sipping champagne and laughing over someone who is as direct and
passionate and opposed to them as this... someone who commands the respect of millions who
have followed him through the years and who's videos on a level playing field get millions and
sometimes maybe billions of views......

I don't think so....

hence their determination to remove him from major internet platforms...
and why Sandy Hook has been used as a weapon against him... because
they can get people all emotional and wound up with it... using their Media outlets
to present it all in a certain way..

 

  

You really should watch the deposition hearing Bee

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darkmoonlady
1 hour ago, bee said:

 

oh I think it's safe to say he's onto them....

for example an Infowars article from a couple of years ago...

 https://www.infowars.com/cfr-member-calls-on-elites-to-rise-up-against-ignorant-masses/

 

 

Lol thanks for making my point, he takes a column written by someone else, spins it to his liking, creates content around it and...nothing happens.

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bee
28 minutes ago, darkmoonlady said:

Lol thanks for making my point, he takes a column written by someone else, spins it to his liking, creates content around it and...nothing happens.

 

I'm not sure what you expect to happen...

Alex Jones is basically doing his own thing as a Citizen Journalist.... making political commentary, interviewing guests
analyzing and sharing information.....
 

31 minutes ago, Kismit said:

You really should watch the deposition hearing Bee


I've seen a bit but I really have better things to do than watch 3 hours (or however long it is) of it...
I'm actually surprised that the law firm was allowed to put it out like that... I've had a look about how
a Deposition is a public document - and so I don't think they have broken any US laws... but I would
think that a case could be made that by doing so they could create unfair prejudice against the defense - 
by whipping up emotional Public Opinion (before a verdict) - thereby creating outside pressure to bear on the case... 

maybe this will create a precedent and more depositions will be put on Youtube... and used in
the same way this one is... to include millions of people in the ongoing proceedings...?
 

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Kismit
29 minutes ago, bee said:

 

I'm not sure what you expect to happen...

Alex Jones is basically doing his own thing as a Citizen Journalist.... making political commentary, interviewing guests
analyzing and sharing information.....
 


I've seen a bit but I really have better things to do than watch 3 hours (or however long it is) of it...
I'm actually surprised that the law firm was allowed to put it out like that... I've had a look about how
a Deposition is a public document - and so I don't think they have broken any US laws... but I would
think that a case could be made that by doing so they could create unfair prejudice against the defense - 
by whipping up emotional Public Opinion (before a verdict) - thereby creating outside pressure to bear on the case... 

maybe this will create a precedent and more depositions will be put on Youtube... and used in
the same way this one is... to include millions of people in the ongoing proceedings...?
 

It was allowed to be made public because the case was already in the public domain. It makes no difference, it is now out where everyone can see it, unedited and impossible for people to believe it is some sort of cover up. Which is, let’s face it, what would have happened if we could not view it unaltered.

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marsman
1 hour ago, bee said:

. someone who commands the respect of millions who

have followed him through the years and who's videos on a level playing field get millions and
sometimes maybe billions of views......

 

 

millions watch star trek too....it doent make it true though....does it?

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Minimalists
On 4/2/2019 at 5:23 AM, bee said:


 

someone has to make an effort to keep some semblance of balance here.... no tin hat required...

AJ has admitted he basically got it wrong over Sandy Hook and has tried to explain why..
 

If the MSM hadn't kept going on and on and on about it all the time the Sandy Hook victims would
have found life easier.... AJ moved on years ago.... but the MSM and those who pull their strings
just won't let it go..... not because they care but because it is a weapon to use to silence AJ...

 


 

Had he put his brain in gear before putting his mouth in motion he would not be trying to explain anything....He let that alligator mouth overload that canary butt..Now his butt is overheating and he is trying to find a way to cool it down.

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Setton
On 04/04/2019 at 9:55 AM, bee said:

 

I'm not sure what you expect to happen...

Alex Jones is basically doing his own thing as a Citizen Journalist.... making political commentary, interviewing guests
analyzing and sharing information.....
 


I've seen a bit but I really have better things to do than watch 3 hours (or however long it is) of it...
I'm actually surprised that the law firm was allowed to put it out like that... I've had a look about how
a Deposition is a public document - and so I don't think they have broken any US laws... but I would
think that a case could be made that by doing so they could create unfair prejudice against the defense - 
by whipping up emotional Public Opinion (before a verdict) - thereby creating outside pressure to bear on the case... 

Gosh, we couldn't have that could we?

Oh wait, you were fine with it when Tommy Robinson did exactly that. What changed? 

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preacherman76
On 4/17/2019 at 8:05 AM, Setton said:

Gosh, we couldn't have that could we?

Oh wait, you were fine with it when Tommy Robinson did exactly that. What changed? 

Nothing changed. Two completely different stories. The case Tommy reported on had already been decided. They were just there to be sentenced. 

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Setton
7 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

Nothing changed. Two completely different stories. The case Tommy reported on had already been decided. They were just there to be sentenced. 

Well that's simply not true. He was broadcasting while the jury was deliberating. 

Where do you get your information..? 

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preacherman76
11 minutes ago, Setton said:

Well that's simply not true. He was broadcasting while the jury was deliberating. 

Where do you get your information..? 

Yes it is true. Those men were being sentenced that day. I got the information from the journalist who was reporting on the story just before he was unlawfully arrested  

Either way though, still not the same thing. The jury wasn’t going to be watching Tommy on Facebook, or were they going to be influenced by anything Tommy could do by that stage in the trial. 

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Setton
17 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

Yes it is true. Those men were being sentenced that day. I got the information from the journalist who was reporting on the story just before he was unlawfully arrested  

Hmm... do I believe the random guy on the internet and his imaginary journalist friend or every other source out there?

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Either way though, still not the same thing. The jury wasn’t going to be watching Tommy on Facebook, or were they going to be influenced by anything Tommy could do by that stage in the trial. 

You have no idea how long juries can deliberate have you? 

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preacherman76
On 4/3/2019 at 11:12 PM, darkmoonlady said:

Bee Alex Jones probably knows five names on your list, less if he had to actually name what they do or work. His entire "research" can be summed up by going to a conspiracy reddit and picking a name, looking up a news article and then making up something that sounds salacious about them. He posts his made up story on Info Wars, creates a video where he pumps himself up into a frenzy and posts it. If he really gets going Fox news will mention it, not really questioning any of the so called "facts" but theyll say we'll let YOU decide. There, Alex Jones in a nutshell. Throw in cheap supplements at a crazy mark up and bam there you go. He isnt deep or knowledgeable, he is opportunistic, greedy and soulless.

That’s a whole lot of assumption you have going on there. 

Its actually funny at this point. Listening to people talk about the man like they know him at all. Everything you know about Alex Jones comes from the lying msm. I dare say you have never heard anything directly from him that wasn’t a quick taken out of context YouTube video. 

The funniest part is people lecturing folks like bee, who actually listen to the show, and know first hand what he’s all about, telling us Alex isn’t knowledgeable?? LOL. The man is a walking encyclopedia. 

Even your comment on “marked up” supplements is totally off base, and an outright lie. Amazon and Whole Foods sell many of the same products, for twice to three times as much. 

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Rlyeh
3 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

That’s a whole lot of assumption you have going on there. 

Its actually funny at this point. Listening to people talk about the man like they know him at all. Everything you know about Alex Jones comes from the lying msm. I dare say you have never heard anything directly from him that wasn’t a quick taken out of context YouTube video. 

The funniest part is people lecturing folks like bee, who actually listen to the show, and know first hand what he’s all about, telling us Alex isn’t knowledgeable?? LOL. The man is a walking encyclopedia. 

Even your comment on “marked up” supplements is totally off base, and an outright lie. Amazon and Whole Foods sell many of the same products, for twice to three times as much. 

I get my information on Alex Jones from the nutter himself.

You Alex Jones fans are funny, he produces fake news and you're defending it.

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preacherman76
11 minutes ago, Rlyeh said:

I get my information on Alex Jones from the nutter himself.

You Alex Jones fans are funny, he produces fake news and you're defending it.

How am I defending fake news? I’m not saying the Sandy Hook shooting didn’t happen. 

He retraced the story years ago, so neither is he. At least he can admit when he’s wrong. Unlike msm, who constantly pushes BS, and is almost never held responsible  

So you listen to the show? For how long? 

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Rlyeh
6 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

How am I defending fake news? I’m not saying the Sandy Hook shooting didn’t happen. 

By defending the very idiot who makes fake news.

Sandy Hook isn't the only time Jones talked out of his rear end.  He has a tendency to mix fact and fiction.  At lot of his stuff on science he's just making it up as he goes along.

 

6 minutes ago, preacherman76 said:

He retraced the story years ago, so neither is he. At least he can admit when he’s wrong. Unlike msm, who constantly pushes BS, and is almost never held responsible  

So you listen to the show? For how long? 

I've watched clips he had on You Tube.  I didn't realise I had to listen to the entire show.

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Katniss

I have a nephew who's been a Alex Jones fan for years. He hangs onto every word Alex says and there is no convincing him otherwise. No matter what you tell him, or what proof you lay before his eyes, he will not deal with it or see the real truth when Alex Jones is wrong a lot of times. So there are some people who just don't want to hear it, because for them it's something to believe in.

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On 4/20/2019 at 4:27 AM, preacherman76 said:

That’s a whole lot of assumption you have going on there. 

Its actually funny at this point. Listening to people talk about the man like they know him at all. Everything you know about Alex Jones comes from the lying msm. I dare say you have never heard anything directly from him that wasn’t a quick taken out of context YouTube video. 

The funniest part is people lecturing folks like bee, who actually listen to the show, and know first hand what he’s all about, telling us Alex isn’t knowledgeable?? LOL. The man is a walking encyclopedia. 

Even your comment on “marked up” supplements is totally off base, and an outright lie. Amazon and Whole Foods sell many of the same products, for twice to three times as much. 

I've said numerous times on this message board I've been listening to Alex for over 20 years..wanna quiz me? Just because I think he is a conspiracy porn huckster doesn't mean I haven't been paying attention. I heard his first appearances in the mid 90s on Coast to Coast and followed him since. I've seen his content and how he's grown his outside business from stuff he learned from Art Bell. And as for his supplements plenty of evidence he marks them up astronomically, and you absolutely can get it cheaper on Amazon. My sister is a supplement freak and I used to buy them for her because she didn't have Prime. Beyond that how about one question for you..how many of Alex's predictions for FEMA camps and gloom and doom have actually happened vs. how many times has he been completely wrong? 

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