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Trump Wanted To Put Migrants In Sanctuary Cit

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susieice
1 minute ago, Gromdor said:

I don't think so, but Trump has made it plain he thinks so in his quote to the media.  I am merely pointing out how his logic is the same as a wife beaters.

Well the way people are reacting I can almost see how he'd think this. It's like exposing hypocrisy. 

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Gromdor
3 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

I don’t know how more stupid you can get.  It’s not that politicians don’t want to do what Trump wants.  It’s that politicians don’t want to follow the law and defend this nation.  The abuser in this case are those that establish sanctuary cities.

“Due to the fact that Democrats are unwilling to change our very dangerous immigration laws, we are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing Illegal Immigrants in Sanctuary Cities,” said Trump Friday afternoon in a series of tweets. “Only The Radical Left always seems to have an Open Borders, Open Arms policy — so this should make them very happy!”- Donald Trump today.

Only one politician doesn't want to follow our laws and his name is Donald Trump.

6 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

The thought was to solve the immigration problem.  But I do believe that he has decided against it for now.  Nobody cares if city officials don’t make federal law.  One just has to assume these city officials have more respect for themselves and their citizens that they are sworn to protect.

According to Aztek's link.  He changed his mind again.

7 minutes ago, RavenHawk said:

Only in a sick mind.

Then we agree,  Trump has a sick mind.

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56 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

To me it's not a bad thing.  Trump seems to think it is: "Due to the fact that Democrats are unwilling to change our very dangerous immigration laws, we are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing Illegal Immigrants in Sanctuary Cities only," Trump tweeted. "The Radical Left always seems to have an Open Borders, Open Arms policy -- so this should make them very happy!"  https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/11/politics/immigrant-detainees-sanctuary-cities/index.html

My point is that making policy purely on how you can hurt innocent people to force people who disagree with you to do things is the exact same mentality as wife beaters and child abusers.

How is he hurting innocent people?  By placing them in sanctuary cities?

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21 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

Yeah.  So the citizens in sanctuary cities will suffer (in Trump's mind) because politicians don't want to do what he says. 

well they voted for them, they deserve their leaders..     but i'm glad we figured that citizens will suffer, when thousands of unchecked illegals move into their city.    seems like you have no issues when dems do it to entire country,  but when trump does to those who made their city sanctuary for exactly that reason it becomes a problem,   there is a strong smell of mental disorder here

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Gromdor
Just now, Doc Socks Junior said:

How is he hurting innocent people?  By placing them in sanctuary cities?

I personally don't think he is.  But to read Trump's quote, he certainly thinks so.

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Gromdor
1 minute ago, aztek said:

well they voted for them, they deserve their leaders..     but i'm glad we figured that citizens will suffer, when thousands of unchecked illegals move into their city.    seems like you have no issues when dems do it to entire country,

Honestly, I think Trump will send them to the great sanctuary city of New York long before he sends them to Iowa.  He needs all he can get to try and salvage the republican vote here for himself after the whole farmer/trade war thing.  So it will only be blue states.

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RavenHawk
10 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

I am merely pointing out how his logic is the same as a wife beaters.

And you failed miserably.  His logic is not the same as that.  Your logic is that of someone that continues to twist the facts.

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aztek
1 minute ago, Gromdor said:

Honestly, I think Trump will send them to the great sanctuary city of New York long before he sends them to Iowa.  He needs all he can get to try and salvage the republican vote here for himself after the whole farmer/trade war thing.  So it will only be blue states.

yea, and i can tell you it is a good thing, the way i see it,  it will greatly assist turning state red

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RavenHawk
10 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

“Due to the fact that Democrats are unwilling to change our very dangerous immigration laws, we are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing Illegal Immigrants in Sanctuary Cities,” said Trump Friday afternoon in a series of tweets. “Only The Radical Left always seems to have an Open Borders, Open Arms policy — so this should make them very happy!”- Donald Trump today.

And?  I think that is a very good idea.  But I think he only tweeted that like thinking out loud as a wakeup call to the citizens of those sanctuary cities.  He’ll let the ramifications play out in those cities.

 

Only one politician doesn't want to follow our laws and his name is Donald Trump.

Excuse me?  He’s one of the few that are.

 

According to Aztek's link.  He changed his mind again.

I heard that on the radio not long ago.

 

Then we agree,  Trump has a sick mind.

It wasn’t his mind I was referring to.  Your statement is so ironically appropriate.

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1 hour ago, Gromdor said:

Honestly, I think Trump will send them to the great sanctuary city of New York long before he sends them to Iowa.  He needs all he can get to try and salvage the republican vote here for himself after the whole farmer/trade war thing.  So it will only be blue states.

I don't think Iowa is allowing sanctuary cities. Philadelphia has just said they will gladly take some.

Here's what Pelosi says. Isn't she representing a sanctuary state? What a load!

http://time.com/5569605/pelosi-immigrants-sanctuary-cities/

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South Alabam
9 hours ago, Raptor Witness said:

 

I don’t recall saying that I thought Trump was the Antichrist.  Perhaps you’ve been privately interpreting my signature? I have simply argued that if Trump is assassinated, which is quite possible; I won’t be surprised if he crawls out his of his coffin, while lying in state.

A witness walks towards Sodom and Gomorrah, first blinding the residents so that they can’t escape, while guiding others to safety.

So it is for these United States. 

Trump believes he can murder someone on fifth Avenue and get away with it. So he teaches lawlessness, he preaches lawlessness, and you swallowed it. 

The Man of Lawlessness

2 Thessalonians 2

11For this reason, God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie, 12in order that judgment will come upon all who have disbelieved the truth and delighted in wickedness. 

 

Um, yeah, that's just what your signature says.

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Raptor Witness

All the little munchkins who follow after the bad witch, seem frightened by this concept of her using human beings as political pawns.

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Now that I have mulled it over more and have listened to other commentaries, this is still a good idea.  The Progs I think protest too much.  This is what they’ve wanted.  We have an influx of illegals and no place to put them.  The answer is sanctuary cities.  What better way for the Progs to prove their ideals.  Here’s a chance for them to prove Trump wrong.  It’s only fair.  Americans that don’t want these people near them shouldn’t be forced to accept them.  The states are supposed to be the testing grounds for experiments.  They tried to implement Romneycare so let them work it out with illegals. 

 

For me, it will be unfortunate since I live in a sanctuary city/state but I think I will rather enjoy watching the collapse.  Our state land commissioner has already stated that she wants to end oil and gas production (I believe that we are the 5th largest state in production).  As Producers leave the state, I want to see Progs trying to pull oil out of the ground.  Venezuela comes to mind. 

 

Of course ID will be a headache.  All illegals will be required to obtain ID from their sanctuary city and they will be restricted from entering non-sanctuary areas.  Anyone caught without ID or outside sanctuary areas will be deported on the spot, no questions asked.  If that separates the family then leave it up to the family to either voluntarily stay or give up their sanctuary status and be deported too.  Of course with this influx, illegals shouldn’t be counted on the census or if they are, must identify themselves as illegal.

 

I can see vigilantism on the rise as this experiment continues.  Then the Progs can feel proud that we will be just like all the other Socialist utopias across the world.  My guess is that most Americans will stand up and vote these people out.  As those illegals that do assimilate, they will become Conservative and they too will begin to see the folly of illegal migration.  Progs will eventually run out of fresh illegals to stuff the boxes.  It’ll be this Conservative illegal group that votes the Progs out of office and close the border.  Why will they want to keep people in office that duplicates the environment that they are trying to escape?  Every plantation has its revolt.  This is going to be costly in lives and property.

 

I’ve got a better idea, let’s not.  Close the border.  Don’t encourage unwanted migrations.  Encourage legal immigration.  Wow, what a concept!

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1 hour ago, Raptor Witness said:

All the little munchkins who follow after the bad witch, seem frightened by this concept of her using human beings as political pawns.

You talking about Pelosi?  Every 4 years the Progs bring out their identity politics to scare the slaves on the plantation to keep them in line.  I don’t think it is going to work this time around.  There are just too many Black voices speaking up.  The Progs will need to use Antifa to put the uppity Blacks back in their place.  The Blacks are going to be joined by the Deplorables and Conservative Hispanics.  The ranks will just grow from there.  These people understand the importance of sovereignty and borders (culture and language).

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Sending these “bad people” to these “sanctuary camps,” is eerily reminiscent of putting the “bad jews” on trains, and supposedly leading them to safety. Upon arrival, they separate families, as Trump has already done.

The only thing missing here, are the secret gas chambers, the ovens, the mass graves, etc. 

 He’s already checked off two of the boxes, separating families and planning to put people on trains to the camps. Don’t tell me Trump wouldn’t like to finish the job,

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RoofGardener

This is a BRILLIANT tactical move that has well and truly hoisted the democrats on their own petard. 

They have been spluttering for two days, making vague noises about "abusing immigrants by using them as political pawns" - or words to that effect. But here's the thing.. it does no harm to the illegal immigrants. They have to go SOMEWHERE; it doesn't matter to THEM whether that 'somewhere' is California or New York or Spigot, Arkansas. 

However, it makes a BIG difference to the rich liberals, who's wealthy communities will suffer immensely under an influx of poor illegal immigrants.

But how can they complain ? They have been shouting from the rooftops for two years that illegal immigrants are good people, and are - indeed - better than most Americans, and how they Enrich and Benefit the communities that they are moved into. . How can they now turn around and attempt to deny access to these "paragons" into THEIR communities ? 

Absolutely FANTASTIC ! Just WATCH people like Pelosi squirm and wriggle. 

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1 hour ago, Raptor Witness said:

Sending these “bad people” to these “sanctuary camps,” is eerily reminiscent of putting the “bad jews” on trains, and supposedly leading them to safety. Upon arrival, they separate families, as Trump has already done.

The only thing missing here, are the secret gas chambers, the ovens, the mass graves, etc. 

 He’s already checked off two of the boxes, separating families and planning to put people on trains to the camps. Don’t tell me Trump wouldn’t like to finish the job,

Not letting illegal alien scabs overrun your country = HITLER

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In 1969 there were an estimated 500,000 illegal aliens in a population 207,000,000 people, or one in 414 people in the U.S were illegal at the time.

In 2019 there is an estimated 11,000,000 illegal aliens  in a population of 327,000,000 people, or one in 30 people in the US are illegal aliens right now.

The Democrats have talked about this before, and voted for border fences, seeking to curb illegal immigration. Bill Clinton spoke about it, Hillary spoke about it, and the Democrats still in Congress, Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, etc..voted for fences along the border to curb illegal immigration.

But lo and behold, when Trump wants a chance to do his part to curb illegal immigration, the Democrats (AS USUAL) started screaming "RACISM" and you simpletons fell for it. You simpletons fall for the Democrats screaming racism EVERY single time.

They tell you what to think, who to call a racist, and what to watch news wise, because you are simple little sheep, who cannot think, or do the math for yourselves.

This has been going on for over almost 60 years so you cannot blame this mass exodus on drug wars etc. And for every illegal in the US, do the math on those caught and turned back. Oh wait, you are to simple to do that.

At what point does a nation have a right to curb illegal immigration? In other nations they might throw you in jail, or even shoot you as you cross the border illegally. But us, we are laughed at, thank to the Liberal agenda.

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11 minutes ago, South Alabam said:

who cannot think

 

No no no. They can think. Every day they think.

And what they think is this:

I think I'm never going to "think about it".

 

 

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RavenHawk
9 hours ago, Raptor Witness said:

Sending these “bad people” to these “sanctuary camps,”

I thought that the Progs consider them all good people?  If so, then how is it retaliation by Trump?  Why don’t they want all the good people?  There are two reasons.  One, maybe Progs don’t think they are such good people after all.  Two, they want to do what Trump wants to do but settle them in Red states to turn them purple.  If they say that what Trump is trying to do is unlawful then what they want to do is pretty much the same if not treasonous.  Yeah, how ‘bout that.

 

is eerily reminiscent of putting the “bad jews” on trains, and supposedly leading them to safety. Upon arrival, they separate families, as Trump has already done.

Well, if you are going to draw from that analogy, it’ll be the Progs that will be doing the separating, not Trump.  Yeah, how ‘bout that.

 

The only thing missing here, are the secret gas chambers, the ovens, the mass graves, etc. 

Again, these are secret constructs that the Progs have in place.  After they get to the sanctuary cities, Trump won’t have anymore to do with them.

 

 He’s already checked off two of the boxes, separating families and planning to put people on trains to the camps.

That’s hardly checking off two boxes.  Separating and segregating illegal populations at the border is SOP.  It’s done for safety of everyone involved.  Even Obama had it done.  He used plans, trains, and buses to new settlements.  I never thought of San Francisco and New York City as camps.

 

Don’t tell me Trump wouldn’t like to finish the job,

You’re clueless as to what Trump wants to do.  I’m not saying that I know exactly what Trump would like to do, but I can say with complete confidence that it has noting to do with gas chambers or ovens.  I’m pretty sure it has something to do with Making America Great Again and doing his duty to defend the country.

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10 hours ago, Razumov said:

Not letting illegal alien scabs overrun your country = HITLER

These are mostly Christian refugees we are talking about, much like Joseph and Mary fleeing to Egypt to escape the infanticide of King Herod. As I recall, they weren’t stopped at the Egyptian border, and separated, with baby Jesus snatched from Mary’s arms.

Baby Jesus was once a refugee, also, which demonstrates the conservative rights true spirit and stupidity.

These pretenders of faith have no idea how close to permanent desolation, they are.

 

 

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20 minutes ago, Raptor Witness said:

These are mostly Christian refugees we are talking about, much like Joseph and Mary fleeing to Egypt to escape the infanticide of King Herod. As I recall, they weren’t stopped at the Egyptian border, and separated, with baby Jesus snatched from Mary’s arms.

Baby Jesus was once a refugee, also, which demonstrates the conservative rights true spirit and stupidity.

These pretenders of faith have no idea how close to permanent desolation, they are.

Joseph and Mary weren't Christians. They where Jews. 

Most modern "refugees" in the USA are actually economic migrants. Remarkabely few of them are fleeing the wrath of a genocidal king. 

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hatecraft
51 minutes ago, Raptor Witness said:

These are mostly Christian refugees we are talking about, much like Joseph and Mary fleeing to Egypt to escape the infanticide of King Herod. As I recall, they weren’t stopped at the Egyptian border, and separated, with baby Jesus snatched from Mary’s arms.

Baby Jesus was once a refugee, also, which demonstrates the conservative rights true spirit and stupidity.

These pretenders of faith have no idea how close to permanent desolation, they are.

 

 

What does a fairy tale have to do with a real world invasion?

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Will Due
5 hours ago, hatecraft said:

What does a fairy tale have to do with a real world invasion?

 

The fairytale is that there isn't a crisis at the border. Not to mention the rest of the country.

 

 

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8 hours ago, Raptor Witness said:

These are mostly Christian refugees we are talking about, much like Joseph and Mary fleeing to Egypt to escape the infanticide of King Herod. As I recall, they weren’t stopped at the Egyptian border, and separated, with baby Jesus snatched from Mary’s arms.

Baby Jesus was once a refugee, also, which demonstrates the conservative rights true spirit and stupidity.

These pretenders of faith have no idea how close to permanent desolation, they are.

 

 

I support a child in Armenia and Honduras through World Vision and have done so for close to 10 years. I get letters and photographs with progress reports at least once a year.  I'm doing my part to help make peoples lives better. Oh yeah, that is Christian based.

No one has a problem with immigration from what I have seen on these forums. No one has a problem with Asylum seekers. It is illegal, non vetted immigration that needs to be stopped. Trump doesn't always play by the books and we have said that many times. I don't agree with everything he says or does, no doubt, and separating children from the parents isn't a good idea in my opinion.

I seriously get tired of seeing people like you, and half a dozen others on these forums trying to paint anyone who voted for Trump as someone who hates people of color, and equating making America great again means ethnic cleansing.

I remember when people could say "Merry Christmas" without possibly offending someone. I have had a few Muslim friends and if one had said "Happy Ramadan" it would not offend me at all. People need to understand if cultures collide, they need to be respectful of other cultures and not demand that theirs is dominant. So if I hear "Happy Hanukkah", or whatever I will respond respectfully.

By the way, our southern border is 2,000 miles long, and roughly 700 miles of fencing and barriers have been built prior to Trump wanting to put a wall up. He has basically put none up so far. Yet people are screaming "racist".

Just who were the "RACIST" who built the current 700 miles of fencing and barriers? Where were all the social justice warriors screaming this is wrong when all that went up?

 

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