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Zodiac Killer Identified?

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A fascinating referral to the real identity of the infamous Zodiac killer.. Implied connections to the Tate & Ohta killings, Chowchilla kidnapping..
 

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Who was the Zodiac Killer?

In 1980 conspiracy researcher Mae Brussell identified Robert Linkletter, son of the famous Hollywood entertainer and celebrity Art Linkletter as the Zodiac Killer. Brussell’s source of information was a letter from a woman who lived in Woodland Hills who knew Robert personally and also knew him as the Zodiac.

Zodiac, a serial killer in the San Francisco Bay area, wrote a series of letters to local newspapers boasting of his murders and appending sophisticated cryptograms that defied the best efforts of amateur and professional codebreakers. Using many deliberately misspelled words, he made mocking jabs at the police, laughed at their futile efforts to catch him, and described in detail how he would dispatch future victims. In a letter sent to the San Francisco Chronicle on October 13, 1969, he wrote, “School children make nice targets, I think I shall wipe out a school bus some morning.” A letter sent to the same newspaper on June 26, 1970 threatened that if people did not start wearing Zodiac buttons, he would punish them “by anilating a full School Buss.” The disappearance of a school bus full of children in 1976 prompted many to believe that this was the work of the Zodiac. It also prompted Mae Brussell to reveal on her weekly program Dialogue: Conspiracy the existence of a letter that identified the Zodiac by his real name. [1]

The afternoon of July 15, the last day of summer school at Dairyland Elementary in the farming community of Chowchilla, a school bus departed with thirty-one children, ages ranging from five to fourteen. Traveling on ruler-straight roads past cotton fields and almond groves, the driver, Frank Ray, dropped off five youngsters at three separate stops.

https://zodiackilleridentified.com/2018/10/23/mae-brussell-identified-killer/

 

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Phaeton80

Although.. it must be stated it does seem rather convenient to cast the blame on someone who relatively swiftly expired in a car crash..

Not to imply anything definitive, but such would be the ideal fallguy scenario.

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from a woman who lived in Woodland Hills who knew Robert personally and also knew him as the Zodiac


..So the question is, who is this woman exactly, and does she represent a trustworthy source?

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According to a letter written by a woman who lived in Woodland Hills (near Los Angeles), Dr. Ohta was the man who prescribed the glasses found at the Tate house, and the owner was none other than the Zodiac himself. In late September 1970, less than a month prior to the Ohta slayings, she saw the Zodiac with Frazier in Woodland Hills.

They “looked exactly alike” except that the Zodiac wore glasses. The implication is that Frazier was a Zodiac double. If he wore glasses, the resemblance would be greater. Pictures of Frazier at the time of his capture and all during his trial show him without glasses. However, a driver’s license photo released by the sheriff’s department shortly before his capture shows him wearing glasses. Perhaps he needed them to drive a car, yet the weird Zodiac-like appearance is certainly striking.
 

Frazier no glasses                       Frazier glasses
 

The author of the letter goes on to identify the Zodiac by his real name and said that he was a member of a white supremacist organization called the International White Guard.

Somehow a copy of this letter came into the possession of Mae Brussell. On July 19, 1976, she called up Sherwood Morrill, a documents specialist for the Bureau of Criminal Identification in Sacramento and chief expert on the handwriting of the Zodiac. She read the letter to him and stated her belief that the Zodiac was involved in the Chowchilla case. He was not a deranged man working alone, as commonly believed, but rather he was part of a group of extreme rightwing fascist killers. She urged him to be on the lookout for a ransom note and check it for Zodiac handwriting characteristics. (A few days later, newspapers reported the finding of a ransom note at the Woods house. Bohrman’s revelation of the Zodiac markings would not emerge until almost two weeks later.)

After speaking with Morrill, she called David Toschi, the detective for the San Francisco Police Department in charge of the Zodiac files. After reading the letter, she asked him if he knew the name of the man identified as the Zodiac. He said he did. As she continued to ask more questions, he became increasingly angry, rude, and hostile.

Toschi said they would never bring him in, and he had no interest in pursuing Brussell’s proffered lead. [8] (Five days later, his partner, Bill Armstrong, suddenly quit and transferred to the Bunco division, leaving Toschi to become the only San Francisco detective working on the Zodiac case. [9] The dispute between them might, or might not, have something to do with a Zodiac connection to Chowchilla.)

While relating these conversations on her Dialogue: Conspiracy program on radio station KRLB in Carmel, Brussell never mentioned the name of the woman who wrote the letter and only said that she lived in Woodland Hills and worked as a school bus driver. She did however reveal the name of the Zodiac – after an interval of four years.

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The letter that Brussell read on her program of September 28, 1980 was the second of two letters written by the Woodland Hills woman. Excerpts of the earlier letter appeared in an article for the Redwood City Tribune on Saturday, November 20, 1971. Below is the complete article:

Letter-Writer Links Frazier and “Zodiac”

By Duane Sandul, Tribune Staff Writer

The Zodiac killer also was an accomplice of John Linley Frazier in the mass murders of Soquel eye surgeon Victor Ohta and four others on Oct. 19, 1970, a woman from Woodland Hills claims in a letter to the Tribune.

The woman, Mrs. Marie Vigil, asked the Tribune to forward the letter to Frazier’s attorney.

She said that Dr. Ohta once prescribed glasses for the Zodiac killer, sought for multiple murders in San Francisco. Mrs. Vigil identified the Zodiac killer as Robert Linkletter and said she saw Linkletter with Frazier before the Ohta murders.

She said she knew Linkletter as a man who has been killing since 1966 but declined to elaborate in a telephone conversation with the Tribune from her San Fernando Valley home. She said she had not intended her letter to become public information but as “confidential” to the defense.

James Jackson, attorney for Frazier, said last night the letter writer “probably is eccentric,” but that he would have an agent “check out the letter.”

“I’ve received seemingly wild letters before which indeed did help produce witnesses,” Jackson said. He added he had received other letters linking the Zodiac killer with Ohta.

The typewritten letter claims that the Zodiac killer also is one of the killers of Sharon Tate and the LaBiancas. Charles Manson and his “family” were convicted for those murders earlier this year.

When the Tribune spoke with Mrs. Vigil, she declined to discuss specifics “over the telephone.”

Frazier’s trial, shifted to Redwood City from Santa Cruz by order of the California Supreme Court, ended Wednesday. The four-man, eight-woman jury which must decide his guilt or innocence will begin deliberations Friday.

Frazier has pleaded innocent and innocent by reason of insanity.

Mrs. Vigil, who said she is over 50 years old, told the Tribune she had reported her information to police departments linking the Zodiac killer with Frazier although she wouldn’t say which police departments.

Sgt. Frank Witt of the Woodland Police Department told the Tribune police have no record of Mrs. Vigil filing a report with them.

Asked why she thought Frazier and the Zodiac killer are accomplices, Mrs. Vigil said, “Because they were together.” She added, “I’ve seen them; they were in Woodland Hills.”

She would give no further information about her acquaintance with the “Zodiac killer.”

 

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Excerpts from the letter:

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“I do have some information about the accomplice of Frazier. He is Robert Linkletter, one of the killers of Miss Tate, La Bianca never brought to trial here, the killer who lost one pair of glasses the night of the Tate killings.

“Less than one month prior to the execution of Dr. and Mrs. Ohta and three other people, Robert was with them here one Sunday pointing me out to them because I knew those glasses did belonged (sic) to him. Dr. Ohta must have prescribed them. A few days later, I was to see Robert again with Frazier driving a light-colored van, kind of old. Robert was driving, was also wearing a blonde wig and some round oversized glasses with pink lenses …

“If the two daughters of Dr. and Mrs. Ohta know of some connection with their father and Robert Linkletter, their lives are in danger …. [10]

“… This killer has been dropping bodies since 1966, a knife killing in Riverside he has admitted. He moves constantly from San Diego to the High Sierra killing here and there. He must believe the Law and Order is willing to cover up all of his murders

Sincerely,

Mrs. Marie P. Vigil” [11]

 

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travelnjones

I am a neophyte on this subject, but I believe the Zodiac Man would have kept evidence.  The Suit or materials relevant to the ciphers. 

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According to Lt. Helder at a press conference October 23, 1969, the eyeglasses found inside the Tate house "belonged to neither Miss Tate's husband, film director Roman Polanski, nor to any of the victims." (Associated Press story)
 

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Zodiac Killer at the Tate House

On the morning of August 9, 1969, Winifred Chapman, a house maid employed by Sharon Tate and Roman Polanski, entered the house at 10050 Cielo Drive between 8:00 and 8:30 to begin her day of work. She went through the dining room toward the living room. Author of the book Helter Skelter, Vincent Bugliosi, details what happened next.…

“Then she stopped suddenly, her progress impeded by two large blue steamer trunks, which hadn’t been there when she had left the previous afternoon – and by what she saw.

There appeared to be blood on the trunks, on the floor next to them, and on two towels in the entryway. She couldn’t see the entire living room – a long couch cut off the area in front of the fireplace – but everywhere she could see she saw the red splashes. The front door was ajar. Looking out she saw several pools of blood on the flagstone porch. And, farther on, on the lawn, she saw a body.”

What Winifred did not notice in the living room as she gazed in horror at the evident signs of furious butchery was a pair of eyeglasses on the carpet next to the steamer trunks. The position of the glasses was singularly odd and precariously upright – lenses down, ear frames sticking up, perpendicular to the floor.

https://zodiackilleridentified.com/2019/03/27/zodiac-killer-at-the-tate-house/

 

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Podo

Ted Cruz was the Zodiac Killer, everyone knows that.

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Skulduggery

This reminded me of that Bruce Davis Zodiac car at the Spahn Ranch.

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Phaeton80
On 17-4-2019 at 1:18 AM, Podo said:

Ted Cruz was the Zodiac Killer, everyone knows that.


Lol, Ted Cruz barely knows how to tie his own shoes (what a moron, pobbly from thesame production line DJT was shipped out into the world from). A lot can be said about this Zodiac basketcase, but being dumb, I think, is not one of them.

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On 4/19/2019 at 5:45 AM, Phaeton80 said:


Lol, Ted Cruz barely knows how to tie his own shoes (what a moron, pobbly from thesame production line DJT was shipped out into the world from). A lot can be said about this Zodiac basketcase, but being dumb, I think, is not one of them.

I was referencing all the memes a few years ago about him being the Zodiac Killer. I think he was running for the american president or something? I don't know, but he was all over the place for a long time.

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There was a burlb on the internet, several years ago in regards to Zodiac. It came about because the Seguin Gazette carried a story about some woman claiming her dad was the Zodiac Killer, and  the family  had moved from California to Seguin, about  40 miles east of San Antonio. They moved shortly after the killings. I'm sure if you search  for say Seguin, Home of the Zodiac Killer, something may turn  up. Can't recall all the details  right now.

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On 22-4-2019 at 10:19 PM, HollyDolly said:

There was a burlb on the internet, several years ago in regards to Zodiac. It came about because the Seguin Gazette carried a story about some woman claiming her dad was the Zodiac Killer, and  the family  had moved from California to Seguin, about  40 miles east of San Antonio. They moved shortly after the killings. I'm sure if you search  for say Seguin, Home of the Zodiac Killer, something may turn  up. Can't recall all the details  right now.


Quick search retrieves, amongst others like the Senguin Gazette which I cant link to 'due to legal reasons', the following:

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A California man is in Texas this week, seeking to determine whether the former Seguin resident he believes was the infamous 1970s Zodiac killer was also involved in the deaths of four Texas girls.Dennis Kaufman believes his stepfather, Jack Tarrance, was the San Francisco terror killer who authorities say killed at least five people beginning in 1969 and taunted police and press in macabre notes in which he promised theyâd never catch him.

Kaufman has provided much of the information and evidence he says ties Tarrance to the Zodiac cases to the FBI, which came to Seguin in 2008 to gain DNA from a local resident related to Tarrance.The FBI, which says no complete DNA profile of the Zodiac exists, has not discussed the results of the DNA testing in spite of repeated inquiries, and the San Francisco FBI Office did not return calls and e-mails sent Thursday in time for this story.Tarrance, who bounced back and forth between Texas and the Pacific Northwest for decades, lived in a mobile home park off Nelda Street with Kaufmanâs mother, Nora, and stepbrother, Charlie from 1990-94. He also lived in Austin, where he managed a service station, and in Dale, among several other places in this state.Kaufman became convinced Tarrance was the Zodiac after watching a television show about the killings in 2000.He began by trying to debunk the idea, but the more he looked into it, the more he became convinced Tarrance was the Zodiac, who in his distinctive letters claimed at the time to have killed 30 people.

Kaufman confronted Tarrance, and he originally admitted his involvement in the killings in a taped conversation that can be heard on Kaufmanâs Internet website, www.therealzodiackiller.com, but later recanted before his death in 2006.Kaufman remains convinced Tarrance was a killer, and heâs returned to Texas to look into four unsolved decades-old cases in which girls or young women were brutally killed.He was in Seguin Thursday and Friday with three other men, one of whom is recognizable to the law enforcement community for the non-profit search and recovery group he founded in the wake of his daughterâs death in the 1990s, which has made recoveries in Bexar, Guadalupe and Comal counties, among many, many others.

They spoke with a Seguin woman related by marriage to Tarrance who has asked that her identity not be divulged by the Gazette Enterprise, were to visit another Tarrance relative and then were going to former homes in Austin and Dale where they were prepared, if necessary, to dig for other potential clues.âWe have a ground-penetrating radar on standby,â one of the men with Kaufman said.Kaufman approached the man whose daughter was killed after a forensics expert told him that letters the Texan had received in the wake of his daughterâs death sounded eerily familiar to students of the Zodiacâs writing.One used words cut out of a magazine, the other used child-like block printing. In each, the sender mocked his victim, and like the Zodiac, promised he would continue to kill and would never be caught.Kaufman, who has only become more convinced over the past 10 years that his stepfather was a serial killer, said he hopes to help bring the man the closure heâs never received.âWe want to try to find out what happened to his daughter,â Kaufman said. After I met (the man) I could relate to what hes going through. Its bad enough knowing what happened to your daughter, but imagine never knowing who did it?âSo far, Kaufman hasnât developed a link between Tarrance and the Texas killings, none of which are known to have occurred in Seguin, Austin or Dale.

But he intends to give the possibility a thorough investigation. The Zodiac was a killer, and he was one of the most elusive ones there ever was,â Kaufman said Friday. âHe didnât kill in his own backyard â that was too risky.âIf Tarrance was the Zodiac killer, why hasnât the FBI or the San Francisco Police Department closed the case? Kaufman isnt sure. But he acknowledges frustration dealing with the FBI and with some of the other law enforcement agencies involved in the original investigations, and isnât sure all are telling the truth.Kaufmanâs provided a knife, a mask and other items to the FBI, but the bureau has not announced the results of its testing â including the DNA testing done on a Seguin resident in October, 2008.Kaufman, who has been featured along with his theory on television, has become a controversial figure in his own right in the Internet blogosphere. But he keeps on, and expects to be vindicated â and sooner rather than later.In the wake of Tarrance's death at age 78, Kaufman has recovered film, papers and other items, and he believes the Zodiac could have had a part in more than 100 killings dating back to the late 1940s.Kaufman says heâs discovered something he believes could provide a tie between Tarrance and one of the confirmed Zodiac victims, and he intends to turn it over to authorities after he returns to California. He believes it could blow the case wide open â at last.âIâve got the evidence to make that happen, Kaufman said.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/zodiackillerfr/dennis-kaufman-strikes-again-t5338.html

 

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William Weston
There is something strange about Google's treatment of Robert Linkletter. Whenever you google someone's name, you get an image or maybe several images of what the person looks like. For instance, if you google David Toschi, famed police detective who hunted for the Zodiac, you will get see several pictures of him. However, if you google Robert Linkletter, an odd portrait comes up. I do not know who it is, but it is certainly not Robert Linkletter. He looks like an older gentleman, perhaps in his seventies. Yet if you look at the birth and death dates that Google provides, his age was 35. The unknown old man has a full head of hair, whereas LInkletter was going bald.
 
The picture links to a website called Discogs, an online music database, and gives information regarding the Cornells, a early 1960s band that he played in, and a sample of his music. It says that Robert, or Bob, was also known as Gordon Arthur Kelly. As far as I know, the only person who had that name was his father Art Linkletter. This was his birth name. When he was adopted by Mary and Fulton John Linkletter, he changed his name to Arthur Gordon Linkletter.
 
Deliberate misinformation or sloppy research? Probably the latter.
 
You can see pictures of Robert Linkletter as he really looked at www.zodiackilleridentified.com
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Below is the picture of unknown man identified as Linkletter by Discogs. Compare to the picture of the real Robert Linkletter eight days before his death on Sept. 12, 1980

.5cc0a4460522c_unknownman.jpg.9749c7fc17570d51cb17df5035927e79.jpg                                                                                            5cc0a44e7e52e_therealRobertLinklettereightdaysbeforehisdeath.jpg.b99ab8ea7634c8d6142a0c744552d326.jpg

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the13bats

the glasses found at the tates do little for me in linking zodiac to being there, the glasses were basically one of the most common popular styles of the time.

 

On 4/24/2019 at 1:51 PM, William Weston said:
There is something strange about Google's treatment of Robert Linkletter. Whenever you google someone's name, you get an image or maybe several images of what the person looks like. For instance, if you google David Toschi, famed police detective who hunted for the Zodiac, you will get see several pictures of him. However, if you google Robert Linkletter, an odd portrait comes up. I do not know who it is, but it is certainly not Robert Linkletter. He looks like an older gentleman, perhaps in his seventies. Yet if you look at the birth and death dates that Google provides, his age was 35. The unknown old man has a full head of hair, whereas LInkletter was going bald.
 
The picture links to a website called Discogs, an online music database, and gives information regarding the Cornells, a early 1960s band that he played in, and a sample of his music. It says that Robert, or Bob, was also known as Gordon Arthur Kelly. As far as I know, the only person who had that name was his father Art Linkletter. This was his birth name. When he was adopted by Mary and Fulton John Linkletter, he changed his name to Arthur Gordon Linkletter.
 
Deliberate misinformation or sloppy research? Probably the latter.
 
You can see pictures of Robert Linkletter as he really looked at www.zodiackilleridentified.com

ive had this type thing happen to me on google countless times,  even results vary comp to comp.

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On 24-4-2019 at 7:51 PM, William Weston said:
There is something strange about Google's treatment of Robert Linkletter. Whenever you google someone's name, you get an image or maybe several images of what the person looks like. For instance, if you google David Toschi, famed police detective who hunted for the Zodiac, you will get see several pictures of him. However, if you google Robert Linkletter, an odd portrait comes up. I do not know who it is, but it is certainly not Robert Linkletter. He looks like an older gentleman, perhaps in his seventies. Yet if you look at the birth and death dates that Google provides, his age was 35. The unknown old man has a full head of hair, whereas LInkletter was going bald.
 
The picture links to a website called Discogs, an online music database, and gives information regarding the Cornells, a early 1960s band that he played in, and a sample of his music. It says that Robert, or Bob, was also known as Gordon Arthur Kelly. As far as I know, the only person who had that name was his father Art Linkletter. This was his birth name. When he was adopted by Mary and Fulton John Linkletter, he changed his name to Arthur Gordon Linkletter.
 
Deliberate misinformation or sloppy research? Probably the latter.
 
You can see pictures of Robert Linkletter as he really looked at www.zodiackilleridentified.com

 

Who uses Google anymore..

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Robert+Linkletter&t=ffsb&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fimages.findagrave.com%2Fphotos250%2Fphotos%2F2018%2F1%2F52917269_b58e8c03-6c7f-4e0f-af23-48fc2eaf66d5.jpeg

Second pic on the 'hitlist':

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