Spontaneous Exorcisms

[Chickadee1948 28]

SPONTANEOUS EXORCISMS

Many of us are drawn by simple curiosity to Edgar Cayce’s readings, to discover what the famous sleeping psychic saw while in a trance state.  And Cayce often encountered spirits, as he states in reading 3744-1: "The spirit of all that have passed from the physical realm…remain within this sphere… There are thousands about us here at present." Cayce talked about spirit possession, and informs us in reading 5753-1, "Discarnate entities… may influence the thought of an entity." In reading 638-1, given for an elderly patient suffering insanity, Cayce declares: "We have possession."

Cayce’s Christian conditioning probably provided the religious framework and perspective for his readings. He affirmed that he would stop doing readings if they contradicted his Christian beliefs, and that intention may have guided and limited his readings. As we know, Christianity comes with rules and consequences, and is therefore a form of spiritual regulation or soft governance, based on the absolute belief in the reality of unseen spirits. The Christian spirit world consists of: 3 spirits combined into one divinity at the apex, with countless orders of spirits below. These are divided politically into angels and demons, and their influence over us is easily demonstrated by the difficulty we have in eliminating them.

When a high spiritual healer like Jesus of Nazareth decided to launch his public career, the bible states that he first had to spend 40 days and nights in the desert just to cleanse himself of his own demons. The story suggests that our common lives are rife with unseen spirits. Indeed, casting out demons was central to Jesus’s  ministry, as the bible records many exorcisms. His strongest admonishments to his followers were to grow stronger faith in order to heal with exorcism.

Broadly speaking, exorcism is the freeing of a: person, place, or object, from some form of negative spiritual influence. Many ancient cultures including shamanism developed local forms of dealing with unwanted spirits, suggesting that the problem of spiritual interference is universal and timeless . I discovered quite by accident that there is a natural clearing process, or spontaneous exorcisms!

In retirement, I finally found the time and courage to dig into those extraordinary but undigested experiences that I had filed away as: “Crazy stuff – Do Not Open!”.

My first crazy vision came in my twenties, after a weekend of intense therapy where I had released a great deal of emotional pain around my childhood fears. Back at work on a bright Monday morning, I was walking across campus to get coffee when my thoughts returned to leftover feelings from the weekend.  As I began to reconnect with the long-forgotten warmth deep in my belly, I allowed the feeling to grow into an uncharacteristic light heartedness.  A young couple walking a hundred feet ahead of me stopped to  embrace before parting.  I felt a surge of joy as I watched their affection manifesting before me.  Suddenly, I noticed a large plume of dense grey smoke rising up quietly and quickly from behind my head.  Like a dark, eerie shadow it rose up over 10 feet, still connected to me by its tail, before launching itself forward directly towards the couple. As the plume of smoke flew towards them, it grew two large arms of grey smoke which opened to enfold the couple, and then disappear into their bodies.

The event was over in seconds. No one else seemed to notice. I was stunned with disbelief, but knew intuitively that it came from a hidden world. It’s sudden appearance was frightening, but I felt good afterwards. It would be40 years before I would see the smoky creature again, and another 3 years before I would arrive at a positive ID on the entity.

My wife and I retired to the country where I had my second crazy vision. I began to meditate outside, where I developed a spiritual ritual in which I would raise Gaia energies from the ground using Qigong patterns. One sunny afternoon, as I was walking to my mediation spot I started to prepare myself mentally, when I stepped back suddenly to avoid a small but nasty prickly ash tree.  As I stepped back into a patch of sunlight, a man-sized plume of dense grey smoke jumped out of me, from behind the left side of my head, and flew ahead of me down the path.  It rushed past me so quickly that I mistook it for a person, and I called out: “Hey”, as it flew past me down the path. I sensed that Old Smoke was in a huge hurry to be away from me. This time I sensed a greater intimacy with this shadowy apparition, like an old acquaintance. I felt confused but strangely elated.

In the 40 years between sightings, I had grown to accept that Mr. Smoke was my shadow self, a concept promoted by Carl Jung, in his book, Modern Man in Search of a Soul. Jung’s shadow self is the dark part of our personality that we reject in order to survive in our society. He states:“The most intelligent man may at times be obsessed with thoughts which he cannot drive away with the greatest effort of will. We only believe that we are masters in our own house because we like to flatter ourselves.” Jung instructs us to embrace and own our dark side, in order to achieve integration of self, and bring an end to internal wars.

Today, the Catholic Church’s leading exorcist in the USA is Dr. Richard Gallagher. As a board-certified psychiatrist, and professor of clinical psychiatry at Columbia University, he walks a fine line between mental health and demonic possession. He’s breaking down biases held traditionally by conventional medicine, as he claims to be the USA’s premier “demonic consultant”.  He bases his declarations that demonic possession is real, on first hand observations, and a growing body of empirical evidence. He claims to be able: “to spot demonic possession” and discern it from mental illnesses. Because of his Catholic faith, he works with the Catholic Church to help clear harmful demons from humans, and reports that demand for exorcisms in the USA is increasing. In just one decade, the Catholic Church had to expand its national team, from 12 to 50 exorcists because of increased demand. He admits that religious exorcisms often need to be repeated many times in order to succeed.

Neither Cayce’s cosmology, Jung’s scientific model of the human, nor Gallagher’s combination of Christianity and science, were able to provide an explanation for Mr. Smoke. When my spiritual quest finally led me to the shamanic path, I discovered the bit of information that changed everything.

A shamanic student with psychic ability had written a blog in which he talked about a shamanic training session. He described seeing strange entities that fit my description while in a room full of students practising extraction of unwanted energies. The psychic student reported seeing dark grey plumes of smoke leaving one client lying on the floor, and immediately entering another.

Fossils, rock carvings, and other evidence from ancient shamanic cultures around the world suggest that humanity has been dealing with interfering spirits for many thousands of years, long before organized religions were created.

Traditionally, proof of spirits has always been experienced subjectively through the interaction of spirits with individual humans. Today’s scientific community demands objective proof that can be quantified, recorded, and manipulated under lab conditions. Until science produces more sensitive instruments that can measure subtle energies, it will continue to publicly deny the existence of the spirit world.  I smiled when I learned that one of Einstein’s favourite reads was a book on theosophy called  The Secret Doctrine, by psychic Madame Blavatsky. 

My “eyes wide open experience” is the strongest proof I could ever ask for. I know now, without researching extensive libraries, and beyond the shadow of a doubt, that spirits exist, and they can enter us and influence our lives. More importantly, they can also be managed and removed by us, once we wake up to their presence, and the power of our own spiritual sovereignty.

 

[papageorge1 3,916]

I am super-impressed by your write-up @Chickadee1948

On this forum you find a lot of resistance from the mainstream science types that reject anything that cannot be registered with physical instruments. This type of science was boldly and arrogantly to replace all this silly superstitious stuff of past centuries like ghosts and possessions BUT the evidence for these things is stubborn and accumulating with more mass sharing of information. 

The arrogant science types demand a full rule of the roost and become rather nasty when that rule is challenged by a persistent accumulation of evidence.

I personally am convinced like you that there are planes of reality beyond the familiar one of our physical senses.

Again, good post.

[Chickadee1948 28]

Navigating thru oceans of information and disinformation to find islands of truth, takes a lifetime, and probably not for those who are in it for quick ego or material rewards.  Once you open up to the existence of harmful entities, you begin to see the great amount of harm they inflict on family, friends, and humanity. This is where shamans can contribute greatly to the liberation of humankind from spiritual parasites that drive us to harm ourselves and others, so they can feed off our negative energies. 

['Walt' E. Kurtz 3,434]

Randome spontaneous exorsism sounds like fun.

[Desertrat56 5,710]

@Chickadee1948 You describe what you believe to be dark entities possessing people but you do not describe how to "liberate humanity" from them, you only describe how you have noticed something leave your body and enter someone else.  That is not a true exorcism, though I get that the spontaneous leaving of your body has to do with how you feel in the moment, but what about the others that it possesses?  It isn't really exorcised, just jumping from one to another, like a flea jumping from one dead dog to a live dog.

[Chickadee1948 28]

1 hour ago, Desertrat56 said:

@Chickadee1948 You describe what you believe to be dark entities possessing people but you do not describe how to "liberate humanity" from them, you only describe how you have noticed something leave your body and enter someone else.  That is not a true exorcism, though I get that the spontaneous leaving of your body has to do with how you feel in the moment, but what about the others that it possesses?  It isn't really exorcised, just jumping from one to another, like a flea jumping from one dead dog to a live dog.

Desertrat56 -  I see what you mean.  My article doesn't really offer a formal process to liberate humanity, but it does give cause and effect in between the lines. I describe how I experienced spontaneous exorcism unintentionally, as a result of raising myself spiritually to a higher level that these parasitic low vibrational entities could not endure, so they left. The key seems to be to raise your spiritual energy by keeping yourself, your thoughts and feelings, as free of negative emotions as possible. For me, the process of spiritual upspiraling or ascension, means: discovering, owning, growing, and asserting my spiritual sovereignty over me, thru spiritual practices borrowed from various spiritual communities. Is using the spiritual practices developed by others ethical? I believe it is very ethical so long as you honour the originators of the practice that you use.  The best example of the transference of cultural spiritual practices is the yoga movement that has covered the world.  Communities in Northern India who developed yoga as part of their spiritual culture have generously shared it with the rest of world, and it did not diminish or dilute their spiritual powers in any way whatsoever. Quite the contrary, sharing their spiritual gifts with the world has elevated those communities as spiritual centers in the eyes of the world because the whole world benefited. 

[Desertrat56 5,710]

@Chickadee1948  Thanks for the answer.  There is still something that bothers me about this but I need to think about it.  I was taught that an exorcism is not just for the individual, it is for the entity that must be removed and you do not just remove it from one person and let it continue on it's merry way to someone else willie nillie.  There has to be a responsibility to make sure it is sent out of the human realm, not blasted out but escorted.

[Chickadee1948 28]

I think that spontaneous exorcism, or self-clearing as I like to call it, happens to us now and then, throughout our lives. In this particular situation, I did not know what was really happening in/around me until many years later, so the problem of disposal of the entity did not occur at the time.. 

If you'e a Christian you may already know about the state of spiritual grace, which is a Christian measure of how faithful you've been to a set of church rules. Being compliant with the orders of a church, home group, or movement does not not necessarily have universal spiritual value, and so this is not necessarily true spiritual grace. But by using spiritual practices that are intended to connect with the divine, you will make yourself a spiritual fortress that can resist parasitic infiltration and attacks.

There are responsible ways to dispose of unwanted entities once they're been extracted. I use water bodies nearby, but others use: traps, catchers, kogels, glass bottles, and an assortment of home made, weird looking devices. What to do with evicted entities is a big question, because they could find their way back to cause more problems. 

[sci-nerd 3,986]

7 hours ago, papageorge1 said:

On this forum you find a lot of resistance from the mainstream science types that reject anything that cannot be registered with physical instruments. This type of science was boldly and arrogantly to replace all this silly superstitious stuff of past centuries like ghosts and possessions BUT the evidence for these things is stubborn and accumulating with more mass sharing of information. 

The arrogant science types demand a full rule of the roost and become rather nasty when that rule is challenged by a persistent accumulation of evidence.

I personally am convinced like you that there are planes of reality beyond the familiar one of our physical senses.

Saying that only displays your ignorance of science. You see science as a naysayer of the spiritual world, but without knowing why!

There are plenty of invisible forces in science. Powerful ones! But like visible matter, they operate in, what is called, the electromagnetic spectrum. And that can be measured, despite it being invisible.

Then there is the always misconceived "dimensions" of string theory. Dimensions that are a conjecture on the subatomic level - and not influencing our daily lives - had they been provable. Unfortunately they are not. String theory has failed totally as a theory, because it has not produced anything at all.

But I am curious. Where does your spirits and demons reside? Now that dimensions is a dead end. Do you know a place they can exist? What is that place called? What is it made of? What correlation does it have to the reality we experience?

Relativity and Newtonian laws dictate that things affect each other. It is a two way street. But spiritualism seems to make it a one way street, where the invisible entities decide what goes on. That sounds a bit like upper dimension stuff, which has failed, as mentioned. On a subatomic level.

So, do you persist that there are higher dimensions? Dimensions only shown to psychics and other believers, but deliberately hidden to science?

Is there a spirit/demon conspiracy to avoid detection?

Edited April 12 by sci-nerd

[XenoFish 86,695]

Mental illness was once mistaken as a sign of possessing. We've learned that it's a mental health issue. 

[papageorge1 3,916]

1 hour ago, sci-nerd said:

 

But I am curious. Where does your spirits and demons reside? Now that dimensions is a dead end. 

In other dimensions/realms/planes of reality. Science thinks it's got things in a box and just needs a bow. Well, I have real world evidence that science's understanding is dramatically incomplete. 

What is  space? What is matter? What is energy? What is consciousness? What is dark matter? What is …...

To quote sci-nerd: Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real.

Observation often precedes scientific understanding

 

Edited April 12 by papageorge1

[sci-nerd 3,986]

4 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

In other dimensions/realms/planes of reality.

What if I tell you, that the only possible "upper reality" there could be, is a real one compared to a simulated one?

[papageorge1 3,916]

Just now, sci-nerd said:

What if I tell you, that the only possible "upper reality" there could be, is a real one compared to a simulated one?

Well, then you would have  lost me.

[sci-nerd 3,986]

2 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

Well, then you would have  lost me.

There is only one way that the things you call spiritual or demonic is real: If we are living in a simulation.

In such a scenario, we are toys for the makers.

I can actually support that, but I lack the evidence.

[papageorge1 3,916]

Just now, sci-nerd said:

There is only one way that the things you call spiritual or demonic is real: If we are living in a simulation.

In such a scenario, we are toys for the makers.

I can actually support that, but I lack the evidence.

And in my theory (non-dual=God and Creation are not-two, Advaita Vedanta) the universe is actually a great thought of the One Consciousness/God/Brahman. We are God (the maker in your terminology above) learning that we are God and Oneness through spiritual evolution. 

 

[sci-nerd 3,986]

1 minute ago, papageorge1 said:

And in my theory (non-dual=God and Creation are not-two, Advaita Vedanta) the universe is actually a great thought of the One Consciousness/God/Brahman. We are God (the maker in your terminology above) learning that we are God and Oneness through spiritual evolution. 

Unlike your "theory", mine actually has both logic and mathematical value.

A mathematician called Brian Whitworth has compared whether materialism or idealism has the deepest core in reality, and his findings were conclusive:

https://www.theuniversesolved.com/bio-brian-whitworth.htm

[XenoFish 86,695]

The only other reality I know of is the immaterial realm of our imaginations. Where ideas exist. Concepts and mental constructs. Obsessions and compulsions. Our head space.

[papageorge1 3,916]

2 minutes ago, sci-nerd said:

Unlike your "theory", mine actually has both logic and mathematical value.

A mathematician called Brian Whitworth has compared whether materialism or idealism has the deepest core in reality, and his findings were conclusive:

https://www.theuniversesolved.com/bio-brian-whitworth.htm

It  might even be some of what he says makes sense.

In his thinking: What is consciousness? (if I may be curious) What experiences all this?

[sci-nerd 3,986]

3 minutes ago, papageorge1 said:

It  might even be some of what he says makes sense.

In his thinking: What is consciousness? (if I may be curious) What experiences all this?

Check Tom Campbell out. He's been researching consciousness since the 70's:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tom+campbell+consciousness

[Chickadee1948 28]

54 minutes ago, sci-nerd said:

Saying that only displays your ignorance of science. You see science as a naysayer of the spiritual world, but without knowing why!

There are plenty of invisible forces in science. Powerful ones! But like visible matter, they operate in, what is called, the electromagnetic spectrum. And that can be measured, despite it being invisible.

Then there is the always misconceived "dimensions" of string theory. Dimensions that, as a conjecture is on the subatomic level - and not influencing our daily lives - had they been provable. Unfortunately they are not. String theory has failed totally as a theory, because it has not produced anything at all.

But I am curious. Where does your spirits and demons reside? Now that dimensions is a dead end. Do you know a place they can exist? What is that place called? What is it made of? What correlation does it have to the reality we experience?

Relativity and Newtonian laws dictate that things affect each other. It is a two way street. But spiritualism seems to make it a one way street, where the invisible entities decide what goes on. That sounds a bit like upper dimension stuff, which has failed, as mentioned. On a subatomic level.

So, do you persist that there are higher dimensions? Dimensions only shown to psychics and other believers, but deliberately hidden to science?

Is there a spirit/demon conspiracy to avoid detection?

In another article: "Witnessing Tree Spirits in Ordinary Reality," (now closed), I reported on an extraordinary event involving light emission from a dying ash tree. I exhausted all: plausible and and natural processes, consulted individual woodsman-chemist, consulted the best (most senior) forestry scientists in Canada,  as to what could be responsible for the luminescence that I observed. All answers were eliminated except an a lifeforce leaving the dying tree. So if what I saw emerging from the dying ask tree trunk, three days after I cut it down, was its spirit....there are over 3 trillion trees on the planet, and they outnumber us about 428 to 1. So that could be home to trillions of non human spirits. What do you think?   

[XenoFish 86,695]

In certain context "spirits release" is a form of catharsis. Releasing pent up or suppressed emotions that might manifest themselves in depression, anxiety, or even rage. 

Exorcism can make someone with schizophrenia or multiple identity disorder worse. Especially if they are religious. If anything the results of an "exorcism" is just a magical placebo effect that temporary mask their symptoms. 

Such things are best handled by trained therapist. 

[papageorge1 3,916]

3 minutes ago, sci-nerd said:

Check Tom Campbell out. He's been researching consciousness since the 70's:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=tom+campbell+consciousness

I already know of and like Tom Campbell.

[sci-nerd 3,986]

1 minute ago, papageorge1 said:

I already know of and like Tom Campbell.

Not well enough it seems. His core message is that we live in a computer, and that consciousness is really simple.

[papageorge1 3,916]

1 minute ago, sci-nerd said:

Not well enough it seems. His core message is that we live in a computer, and that consciousness is really simple.

Maybe you don't understand him well enough either.

So what is this simple thing called 'consciousness'?

[GlitterRose 25,294]

They're only as real as we make them. They only have the power we give them, and we can choose to take it away at any time.

Jung does explain it fairly well. My favorite bit about it was from Crowley, though.

"This doctrine is extremely difficult to explain; but it corresponds more or less to the gap in thought between the Real, which is ideal, and the Unreal, which is actual. In the Abyss all things exist, indeed, at least in posse, but are without any possible meaning; for they lack the substratum of spiritual Reality. They are appearances without Law. They are thus Insane Delusions.

Now the Abyss being thus the great storehouse of Phenomena, it is the source of all impressions."^[1]

^{https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abyss_(Thelema)}