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Russia probes II -- The Mueller Report


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15 hours ago, Setton said:

I can hardly wait. 

You're conflating charges with evidence. The claim was that there is no evidence of collusion or obstruction. Anyone who has read the report knows that is not true. The evidence didn't reach the threshold for indictment but its still there. 

Oh get over yourself and accept reality, there was never any collusion, it was a made up story and as far as obstruction he didn't, no matter how many  times you say he did.    You do understand that it gives us great joy to see you hate filled, enraged, rabid dog leftists keep losing don't you?   Your continuing denial of reality simply illustrates how bitterly frustrated and anguished you are.  It started on November 9th, 2016 and continues with delivery of the Mueller report.  Two years of breathless anticipation and wild eyed "This is it!!!!" moments all ending not with a bang and a perp walk but this sad demand that the report says he is guilty, just not guilty enough.  LMAO.  Thanks for the smiles.  :lol:

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1 minute ago, Merc14 said:

Oh get over yourself and accept reality, there was never any collusion, it was a made up story and as far as obstruction he didn't, no matter how many  times you say he did.    You do understand that it gives us great joy to see you hate filled, enraged, rabid dog leftists keep losing don't you?   Your continuing denial of reality simply illustrates how bitterly frustrated and anguished you are.  It started on November 9th, 2016 and continues with delivery of the Mueller report.  Two years of breathless anticipation and wild eyed "This is it!!!!" moments all ending not with a bang and a perp walk but this sad demand that the report says he is guilty, just not guilty enough.  LMAO.  Thanks for the smiles.  :lol:

I'm assuming you quoted me by mistake? It's just that your reply has nothing to do with the content of my post. 

Other alternatives, of course, are that you're deliberately setting up a strawman to argue against or are hopelessly illiterate. 

Whichever, I'll leave you to your fantasies and/or remedial English lessons. 

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5 minutes ago, Setton said:

I'm assuming you quoted me by mistake? It's just that your reply has nothing to do with the content of my post. 

Other alternatives, of course, are that you're deliberately setting up a strawman to argue against or are hopelessly illiterate. 

Whichever, I'll leave you to your fantasies and/or remedial English lessons. 

Thanks, we can all use a smile and you keep delivering.  BTW, the absolute best thing that could happen to Trump is the loony democrats impeach him over obstruction of all things, we'd get the ho  use back, more senate seats and of course Trump gets another four years.Hopefully all democrats believe this BS you keep spouting and they go ahead and do it.

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2 hours ago, Tatetopa said:

This was not based on opinions from CNN or FOX or MSNBC, it was based on investigation.

And they were charged and or convicted with what, exactly?  I don't recall a single one being charged with any collusion or complicity to commit anything associated with what the investigation was set to find.  That seems to be glossed over so the impression can linger that their convictions somehow proved his guilt.

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No American Citizen was charged or indicted for conspiracy with or facilitation of Russian interference or meddling with the Election--not a single one. 

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3 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

No American Citizen was charged or indicted for conspiracy with or facilitation of Russian interference or meddling with the Election--not a single one. 

Well, Richard Pinedo.  But truth be told he probably didn't know that he was helping the GRU when he sold them the fake ID's.

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2 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

Well, Richard Pinedo.  But truth be told he probably didn't know that he was helping the GRU when he sold them the fake ID's.

The charge was for forging Id's and not related to the actual meddling. Only foreign nationals were indicted.

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Just now, Hammerclaw said:

The charge was for forging Id's and not related to the actual meddling. Only foreign nationals were indicted.

His stolen IDs that he sold to them facilitated the Russian interference, however.   If he didn't sell it to them, they would have had greater difficulty posing as Americans to do the interference they did.

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26 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

His stolen IDs that he sold to them facilitated the Russian interference, however.   If he didn't sell it to them, they would have had greater difficulty posing as Americans to do the interference they did.

How about the $145M that the Clinton's got from Russian Oligarchs and Bill's outrageous speaking fees?   You menton all these little arcane things but not the BIG things

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Just now, Merc14 said:

How about the $145M that the Clinton's got from Russian Oligarchs and Bill's outrageous speaking fees?   You menton all these little arcane things but not the BIG things

They didn't get indicted or convicted so it doesn't pertain to:

44 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

No American Citizen was charged or indicted for conspiracy with or facilitation of Russian interference or meddling with the Election--not a single one. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

They didn't get indicted or convicted so it doesn't pertain to:

 

LoL.  It is comforting to avoid the really ugly big picture when it goes against your beliefs.  You are not going to enjoy what is coming, it is going to et really ugly for people like you.

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Just now, Merc14 said:

LoL.  It is comforting to avoid the really ugly big picture when it goes against your beliefs.  You are not going to enjoy what is coming, it is going to et really ugly for people like you.

Sigh, we will both be dead of old age before we see Clinton in jail and to be honest I fault you and the Republicans.  How many years do you need to get the job done?  Or we going by Ravenhawk's Trump logic and saying she is exonerated because the investigations never got an indictment?

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2 minutes ago, Merc14 said:

Watching GoT now, you enjoy what is coming, you'll be busy boy.

You are beginning to sound like Hacktorp.

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3 hours ago, and then said:

And they were charged and or convicted with what, exactly?  I don't recall a single one being charged with any collusion or complicity to commit anything associated with what the investigation was set to find.  That seems to be glossed over so the impression can linger that their convictions somehow proved his guilt.

Excellent point, No Collusion.  None of the convictions involved the President, just some possibly stupid and greedy minions who failed to report taxable income properly  of paid off a prostitute for personal reasons.  The President did not collude with the Russians, 

Did Russians unaided by President Trump or his election committee  attempt to interfere in American elections?  Apparently.

Of course opinions vary on the magnitude of that.  Pick your response.

It is payback for American interference in Russian elections, we deserve it.

Everybody does it.

We can't trust American intelligence organizations to put America first as a Priority, Vladimir Putin wouldn't lie to us.

It could become a serious issue in the future if they decide to interfere on behalf of a socialist.

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2 hours ago, Gromdor said:

His stolen IDs that he sold to them facilitated the Russian interference, however.   If he didn't sell it to them, they would have had greater difficulty posing as Americans to do the interference they did.

Doesn't matter. He wasn't indicted for Russian interference. You can carve on that square peg all you want; it still doesn't fit. He was just more collateral damage of the Mueller Inquisition.

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17 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

It could become a serious issue in the future if they decide to interfere on behalf of a socialist.

Sounds like B.S.:rolleyes:

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8 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

Doesn't matter. He wasn't indicted for Russian interference. You can carve on that square peg all you want; it still doesn't fit. He was just more collateral damage of the Mueller Inquisition.

Eh sure,  we'll just put a little asterisk by your claim then.

No American Citizen was charged or indicted for conspiracy with or facilitation of Russian interference or meddling with the Election--not a single one.*

* Except possibly for Richard Pinedo who was collateral damage for selling them the IDs they used.

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2 hours ago, Gromdor said:

You are beginning to sound like Hacktorp.

Hacktorp isn't alone. You'll be hearing a lot of that soon enough. Just wait.

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Just now, F3SS said:

Hacktorp isn't alone. You'll be hearing a lot of that soon enough. Just wait.

I dunno, he swore that Mueller was secretly pressed into Trump's service and was detaining Clinton and Obama at Guantanamo.  Waiting just got us a Democrat controlled house and a 400 page Mueller report that debunked everything from Seth Rich to some of Sander's statements to the media.

What's there to wait for?  Some magic exoneration?  Clinton finally going to jail?  Brown shirts coming to my house and arresting me for voting Democrat last election?

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23 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

Eh sure,  we'll just put a little asterisk by your claim then.

No American Citizen was charged or indicted for conspiracy with or facilitation of Russian interference or meddling with the Election--not a single one.*

* Except possibly for Richard Pinedo who was collateral damage for selling them the IDs they used.

 

18 minutes ago, Gromdor said:

I dunno, he swore that Mueller was secretly pressed into Trump's service and was detaining Clinton and Obama at Guantanamo.  Waiting just got us a Democrat controlled house and a 400 page Mueller report that debunked everything from Seth Rich to some of Sander's statements to the media.

What's there to wait for?  Some magic exoneration?  Clinton finally going to jail?  Brown shirts coming to my house and arresting me for voting Democrat last election?

The image you project, sucking on sour grapes, is quite sufficient. Do go on and on and on...…...

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12 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

 

The image you project, sucking on sour grapes, is quite sufficient. Do go on and on and on...…...

Eh, if that's it then it's no big deal.  I get disappointments far worse at work.  The way everyone was hyping it up made it sound like some big catastrophic secret.  Sour grapes for me is hiring a guy and finding out he has no license and listening to him beg to hurry up and get the drug test done so he can smoke pot and then hearing about it from my boss because he asked him too after I said no. 

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As these issues tend to be very contentious we avoid over moderating, however I am getting mighty impatient with the level of personal attacks taking place in here.

Debate the topic or I will be forced to remove personal attacks and issue warnings.

 

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11 hours ago, Helen of Annoy said:

Gaslighting, whataboutism, constantly asking for more examples or explanations, acting like the obvious is somehow something beyond comprehension... are you following a set of instructions? Don't do that, improvise, it will look more natural and less humiliating. 

Well, your posts are frequently "beyond comprehension". You seem determined to paint President Trump in the worst light possible. And STOP implying that I am following instructions.

11 hours ago, Helen of Annoy said:

Specifically, as I just said for three or four times, the guy publicly begged Russia for help against Hillary, who is indeed a woman and a Democrat but also an American. She asked for no foreign help, especially not in such distasteful way. 

I assume you are referring to the Hilary Email comment ? He cracked a joke at a Conservative PAC rally. It was OBVIOUS in context that it was a joke (and quite a funny one as well). Deliberately mis-interpreting it in a sinister light "three or four times" does not make it true. 

I can't be bothered to quote the rest of your post, as it is just paranoia and Trump Derangement Syndrome. 

 

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