Russia probes II -- The Mueller Report

[Farmer77]

28 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

It was OBVIOUS in context that it was a joke (and quite a funny one as well). Deliberately mis-interpreting it in a sinister light "three or four times" does not make it true. 

It was only obviously a joke if you wholly ignore the context. Placed in the context of the Mueller Report and the massive amounts of contacts between the Kremlin and the campaign one must at least consider the possibility that it was an "inside joke" between he , his staff and the Kremlin.  Which again goes back to why Trump and his sycophants screaming "witch hunt" looked so shady and made the investigation so important.

 

 

[RoofGardener]

7 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

It was only obviously a joke if you wholly ignore the context. Placed in the context of the Mueller Report and the massive amounts of contacts between the Kremlin and the campaign one must at least consider the possibility that it was an "inside joke" between he , his staff and the Kremlin.  Which again goes back to why Trump and his sycophants screaming "witch hunt" looked so shady and made the investigation so important.

Yeeeeees.... ummm.. "witch hunt looked shady". And yet.. the report concluded that its founding agenda (Russian collusion) turned out to be false ? I guess it's important, in that it cleared an allegation up.

But I'm sorry Farmer77, President Trump's joke - which was only told once - is quite clearly just that - a joke at a political rally. 

[Tatetopa]

5 hours ago, Hammerclaw said:

Sounds like B.S.

Kinda does doesn't it.  Maybe they figure we are unstable enough already why bother.

[Farmer77]

33 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

Yeeeeees.... ummm.. "witch hunt looked shady". And yet.. the report concluded that its founding agenda (Russian collusion) turned out to be false ? I guess it's important, in that it cleared an allegation up.

Im not sure what youre implying here. Yes them constantly screaming witch hunt looked shady. Hell look at it from law enforcements perspective. They knew about these contacts and yet rather than team Trump simply say "we were contacted by the Russians but didnt engage" and allow the investigators to do their jobs they went around screaming denials and insults like a junior high kid. Of course the investigation kept going and going.

To the bolded.....um well duh. That was kind of the entire reasoning behind the investigation.

33 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

But I'm sorry Farmer77, President Trump's joke - which was only told once - is quite clearly just that - a joke at a political rally. 

It certainly could have been, most likely was, however its simply dishonest (or at least low IQ reasoning) for anyone to try and claim that it shouldn't at least be examined from any other angles. 

Edited April 22, 2019 by Farmer77

[+Hammerclaw]

16 minutes ago, Tatetopa said:

Kinda does doesn't it.  Maybe they figure we are unstable enough already why bother.

Double entendre. Initials can stand for more than one thing.

[Tatetopa]

5 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

Double entendre. Initials can stand for more than one thing.

Yep  EW!

[+Hammerclaw]

Just now, Tatetopa said:

Yep  EW!

Always thought Bernie stood for B.S. anyway. Another millionaire turned socialist after he made his pile.

[+Hammerclaw]

34 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Im not sure what youre implying here. Yes them constantly screaming witch hunt looked shady. Hell look at it from law enforcements perspective. They knew about these contacts and yet rather than team Trump simply say "we were contacted by the Russians but didnt engage" and allow the investigators to do their jobs they went around screaming denials and insults like a junior high kid. Of course the investigation kept going and going.

To the bolded.....um well duh. That was kind of the entire reasoning behind the investigation.

It certainly could have been, most likely was, however its simply dishonest (or at least low IQ reasoning) for anyone to try and claim that it shouldn't at least be examined from any other angles. 

That's what the House Democrats are desperately scrambling for, an angle. It just ain't going to happen. They simply will never get the votes for a successful Impeachment. The Democrats thwarted the Republican impeachment of Clinton and stood by their lying lecher and now it's pay back time. Game over.

[Helen of Annoy]

1 hour ago, RoofGardener said:

Well, your posts are frequently "beyond comprehension". You seem determined to paint President Trump in the worst light possible. And STOP implying that I am following instructions.

Is it my fault he only appears in the worst light? If he possibly has traces of common sense, decency, literacy or god forbid intelligence, he sure is hiding it so good no one ever saw it.   

I'll stop pointing out that you're obviously sticking to the usual propaganda manipulation techniques book when you stop attempting to gaslight me - I might as well be clinically deranged, but it's still not logical to call me manic just because I refuse to disregard reality.

There's obvious Russian influence in the word salads Trump regularly delivers.

Not only he never said a critical word about Putin, it's much more telling that his entire stance on NATO is directly quoted Russian stance. From his outrageously childish insisting on NATO countries paying him protection money (the exact Russian propaganda for the last 70 years), to his most intriguing need to suddenly inform the world that Monte Negro must not join the Alliance because these people are too irrationally aggressive, they might cause some trouble and what NATO will do then... 

Also, we must remember how childishly Trump rejoiced the supposedly imminent breakdown of the EU - undermining the EU is Russian project, directly financed and supported with their propaganda machine. 

In short, good portion of any crap Trump hurls at the world is regurgitated Russian propaganda. 

 

1 hour ago, RoofGardener said:

I assume you are referring to the Hilary Email comment ? He cracked a joke at a Conservative PAC rally. It was OBVIOUS in context that it was a joke (and quite a funny one as well). Deliberately mis-interpreting it in a sinister light "three or four times" does not make it true. 

I can't be bothered to quote the rest of your post, as it is just paranoia and Trump Derangement Syndrome. 

 

Yeah, he 'jokes' a lot. Too much for a president, in fact. He joked about Russia assisting his election, Mexico paying for the wall, grabbing women by the ***** without their consent, NATO being obsolete, appointing his daughter to lead the World bank... what a humorous person. 

Maybe Americans should elect someone less amusing the next time and maybe they should do that on their own, without Russians who apparently had no sense of humour, so they responded to Trump 'only joking' not just with ridiculous amount of internet interference but also with appearing in the White House, complete with their spy-master, having private conversation with your walking joke. 

 

Now, if you didn't like the reality I just reminded you of, you can simply conclude said reality must be joking a little with you.  

[Farmer77]

1 minute ago, Hammerclaw said:

That's what the House Democrats are desperately scrambling for, an angle. It just ain't going to happen. They simply will never get the votes for a successful Impeachment. The Democrats thwarted the Republican impeachment of Clinton and stood by their lying lecher and now it's pay back time. Game over.

I ... um......OK?  I dont argue any of that at all. I was simpy pointing out the error of those mocking the investigation in its entirety. It was clearly a worthwhile endeavor as it relates to national security. 

As for impeachment IDK , clearly removal wont happen, as I pointed out in another thread though i'm not as convinced as most that impeachment hearings wouldnt be a smart play to set up 2020.  While conventional wisdom could hold and the few independents out there could be repelled by the tactic I think theres just as much chance that the testimony itself could make them forget that initial repulsion at the tactic by the time election day rolls around.

 

 

[+Hammerclaw]

7 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

I ... um......OK?  I dont argue any of that at all. I was simpy pointing out the error of those mocking the investigation in its entirety. It was clearly a worthwhile endeavor as it relates to national security. 

As for impeachment IDK , clearly removal wont happen, as I pointed out in another thread though i'm not as convinced as most that impeachment hearings wouldnt be a smart play to set up 2020.  While conventional wisdom could hold and the few independents out there could be repelled by the tactic I think theres just as much chance that the testimony itself could make them forget that initial repulsion at the tactic by the time election day rolls around.

 

 

Except that the public is burnt out on the farcical shenanigans and the circus show the House has become is losing entertainment value. Then there's the hypocritical Eurotrash who cozy up to Putin at ever opportunity, cutting deals that circumvent sanctions while demanding we maintain a hostile stance with their lucrative trading partner. Their double-dealings are a standing joke here in informed quarters.

Edited April 22, 2019 by Hammerclaw

[Helen of Annoy]

24 minutes ago, Hammerclaw said:

Except that the public is burnt out on the farcical shenanigans and the circus show the House has become is losing entertainment value. Then there's the hypocritical Eurotrash who cozy up to Putin at ever opportunity, cutting deals that circumvent sanctions while demanding we maintain a hostile stance with their lucrative trading partner. Their double-dealings are a standing joke here in informed quarters.

It's your Trump that wants sanctions dropped. He only doesn't know how. 

 

And there's no joke in emerging future EU alliances. With Russia, among others, naturally. 

Maybe you chose the wrongest possible moment to attempt isolating yourselves from your allies, based on hilariously wrong assessment of both Russian abilities (except waving with nukes, and we all know exactly how suicidal would using them be, no much more they can in fact do) and their actual plans (they need you weakened, in the classic adversary sense, not to build a relationship with you, while they wish they could weaken the EU for their better position within it, because they do need and want to build with us).    

For example, for starts, you can kiss LNG terminals goodbye, thanks to Trump who made even the most pro-American Europeans stop and say 'no, thanks'.

Because the US is the epitome of chaos now. No one wants to make any deals with chaotic, openly fraud-oriented partners, in very visible decline. Russia is predictable in their usual balance of seeking lasting trading deals and small to medium attempts at extortion, while the US can do literally anything now, including complete disregard for any international agreement or law, no matter how stupid and self-destructive it would be.  

There will be two morals of this historic story: firstly, always choose lesser evil and secondly, chaos is always the greater evil.  

[RoofGardener]

27 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said:

It's your Trump that wants sanctions dropped. He only doesn't know how. 

 

And there's no joke in emerging future EU alliances. With Russia, among others, naturally. 

Maybe you chose the wrongest possible moment to attempt isolating yourselves from your allies, based on hilariously wrong assessment of both Russian abilities (except waving with nukes, and we all know exactly how suicidal would using them be, no much more they can in fact do) and their actual plans (they need you weakened, in the classic adversary sense, not to build a relationship with you, while they wish they could weaken the EU for their better position within it, because they do need and want to build with us).    

For example, for starts, you can kiss LNG terminals goodbye, thanks to Trump who made even the most pro-American Europeans stop and say 'no, thanks'.

Because the US is the epitome of chaos now. No one wants to make any deals with chaotic, openly fraud-oriented partners, in very visible decline. Russia is predictable in their usual balance of seeking lasting trading deals and small to medium attempts at extortion, while the US can do literally anything now, including complete disregard for any international agreement or law, no matter how stupid and self-destructive it would be.  

There will be two morals of this historic story: firstly, always choose lesser evil and secondly, chaos is always the greater evil.  

< sigh> The derangement just keeps on going. 

America is "the epitome of chaos" ? Oh REALLY ? 

Not, say , Yemen, or the West Bank, or Gaza, or the Sudan, or Afghanistan, or Iraq, or any of a couple of dozen poophole countries around the world. 

But America ? 

Yeah... OK.... 

Oh, and in what way is America in "..very visible decline" ? Exactly ? The dollar is riding high, the nation has a positive balance of trade (e.g. it sells more than it buys), its military is still the largest on the planet (particularly in the realm of force projection), it is politically stable... where is the decline ? 

[Setton]

17 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

America is "the epitome of chaos" ? Oh REALLY ? 

Not, say , Yemen, or the West Bank, or Gaza, or the Sudan, or Afghanistan, or Iraq, or any of a couple of dozen poophole countries around the world. 

But America ? 

IF meant the way i think it was, she has a point. All those countries you mention are undeniable a mess but they are a predictable mess. The one big caveat on those predictions is 'depending how the US interferes'. Which is becoming ever more unpredictable. 

[Farmer77]

7 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

Oh, and in what way is America in "..very visible decline" ? Exactly ? The dollar is riding high, the nation has a positive balance of trade (e.g. it sells more than it buys), its military is still the largest on the planet (particularly in the realm of force projection), it is politically stable... where is the decline ? 

Well for starters youre wrong about trade  Trump's Plan to Reduce Trade Deficit Falters as it Hits an All-Time High Instead and many indicators point to a coming crash  Contrarian who called the 2008 housing crash expects a global recession this year .

Our status on the world stage has been damaged via a literally laughable leadership (see the UN assembly laughing at Trumps bragging) who has now had a thorough examination by the best investigating body in the world and has been publicly found to be a corrupt  and inept liar. The following is from the report. It is discussing the freaking President of the United States not the manager of your local strip club.

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“The President’s efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful,” the report states, “but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests.”

 

Racism is back and en vogue. I know I know it doesnt really exist, its "all politics" or just poor conservatives being persecuted....which really truly proves my point and leads me to the next one. We have become a fact free society and judging by the responses on here to the Mueller report, gleefully so.  Literally from day one the current regime told us facts dont matter and they would be giving us "alternative facts". While laughable at the time in hindsight that is some dystopian ****.

That of course leads to the division discussion. This nation has been divided for a long time. What it hasnt had is someone who not only intentionally, daily stokes that divide from the White House but willfully does so using lies and very thinly veiled racism to incite the worst in our society.

As for us being politically stable .....are we? We have a lawless egomaniac, with millions of cult like followers, whose only hope to avoid jail may be his POTUS cant be charged card.  Will we have a peaceful transition or will Trump incite,as he has intimated, his base to physical measures? Now I dont really think thats a possibility but considering the absolute horror show of ignorance and grifterism we've been exposed to for the last couple of years, and the absolute encouragement of it by his base,  its something that at least deserves a moment's contemplation by level minded folks and that is surely the sign of decline you are seeking.

 

 

[RoofGardener]

31 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

Well for starters youre wrong about trade  Trump's Plan to Reduce Trade Deficit Falters as it Hits an All-Time High Instead and many indicators point to a coming crash  Contrarian who called the 2008 housing crash expects a global recession this year .

Our status on the world stage has been damaged via a literally laughable leadership (see the UN assembly laughing at Trumps bragging) who has now had a thorough examination by the best investigating body in the world and has been publicly found to be a corrupt  and inept liar. The following is from the report. It is discussing the freaking President of the United States not the manager of your local strip club.

 

Racism is back and en vogue. I know I know it doesnt really exist, its "all politics" or just poor conservatives being persecuted....which really truly proves my point and leads me to the next one. We have become a fact free society and judging by the responses on here to the Mueller report, gleefully so.  Literally from day one the current regime told us facts dont matter and they would be giving us "alternative facts". While laughable at the time in hindsight that is some dystopian ****.

That of course leads to the division discussion. This nation has been divided for a long time. What it hasnt had is someone who not only intentionally, daily stokes that divide from the White House but willfully does so using lies and very thinly veiled racism to incite the worst in our society.

As for us being politically stable .....are we? We have a lawless egomaniac, with millions of cult like followers, whose only hope to avoid jail may be his POTUS cant be charged card.  Will we have a peaceful transition or will Trump incite,as he has intimated, his base to physical measures? Now I dont really think thats a possibility but considering the absolute horror show of ignorance and grifterism we've been exposed to for the last couple of years, and the absolute encouragement of it by his base,  its something that at least deserves a moment's contemplation by level minded folks and that is surely the sign of decline you are seeking.

 

 

Jeez Louise @Farmer77, of COURSE America is politically stable. How many major riots did you have at the last election ? How many corrupt cities stuffing ballot boxes ? 

As for racism... well.. sadly you are correct on that count. The rush towards 'identity politics' by the Left has indeed caused a massive rise in racism. Not just casual racism, but systemic, "built-in-to-the-political-system" racism. Bizarrely, nobody is calling them out for it. 

As for international status... I disagree. America's credibility has only gone down among the multiculturalist globalist elites. I think most other people sneakily admire him !

[Farmer77]

3 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

, of COURSE America is politically stable. How many major riots did you have at the last election ? How many corrupt cities stuffing ballot boxes ? 

Well first as I said before I dont really see it either. I will however argue against the points you threw out there. Again you cant compare 2020 to last election because theres a real possibility that Trump believes the only reason he hasnt been charged with a crime is because he is in office. Its not like im the first one to have this thought: The most ominous thing Michael Cohen said about Trump this week

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“Given my experience working for Mr. Trump, I fear that if he loses the election in 2020, that there will never be a peaceful transition of power."

 

13 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

As for racism... well.. sadly you are correct on that count. The rush towards 'identity politics' by the Left has indeed caused a massive rise in racism. Not just casual racism, but systemic, "built-in-to-the-political-system" racism. Bizarrely, nobody is calling them out for it. 

Oh while I do agree democrat policies of the past needed to evolve im referring to the shoot up a church, run people over with your car  type stuff.  

Report: Domestic Terrorism Is Still a Greater Threat Than Islamic Extremism

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he rise in domestic terrorism — as profiled in a captivating New York Times Magazine report from 2018 — is largely driven by an uptick in far-right extremism. Of the 263 acts of domestic terrorism that occurred between 2010 and the end of 2017, 92, around a third, were committed by Americans on the far right. “If you have politicians saying things like our nation is under attack, that there are these marauding bands of immigrants coming into the country, that plays into this right-wing narrative,” Gary LaFree, a criminologist at the University of Maryland, told the Post. “They begin to think it’s okay to use violence.”

With the increase in right-wing terrorism has also come an increase in hate crimes: FBI statistics show that these acts have been growing for the past three years. Anti-Semitic attacks are driving the increase of hate crimes in New York City, which, in February, were up 72 percent compared to that month last year.

 

23 minutes ago, RoofGardener said:

As for international status... I disagree. America's credibility has only gone down among the multiculturalist globalist elites. I think most other people sneakily admire him !

Yeah thats like having the raddest neck tattoo in your graduating class. Thats great if only interacting with the manual labor crowd is your goal, if you want to have a say in the broader world however you need those "multiculturist elites" to hire you, be willing to work with you, basically to trust you. 

 

[Will Due]

11 minutes ago, Farmer77 said:

“Given my experience working for Mr. Trump, I fear that if he loses the election in 2020, that there will never be a peaceful transition of power."

 

I don't know what has caused so much blindness with those on the left but that's exactly what happened after President Trump was elected. And it's largely because of this fact that he'll be re-elected in 2020.

 

 

[Merc14]

11 hours ago, Gromdor said:

You are beginning to sound like Hacktorp.

The big difference between you and me, Grommie, is that you haven't been right about any of this mess to date and I have.  Every prediction you have made was/is wrong and I have been right.  The report as was predicted, an incendiary POS that would fuel your anger for another few months while finding Trump completely innocent.  At what point does someone like you begin to question what they are being told?  It isn't just you, BTW, it is every leftist hater that has been led along this path for the last two years.  When do you begin to question the talking heads that have been so incredibly wrong?   Remember election night when you wre assured that Hillary could not possibly lose?   The next two years has been lather, rinse, repeat for you guys on the left yet you continue believing, why?

[Merc14]

My feelings on the Mueler report are that it was purposely written to be incendiary.  That was predictable because Mueller wa sa purely political hire whose main task was to provide the hair-on-fre democrats with something they could impeach trump with. 

Did Trump want to fire Mueller?  Yes, absolutely. he didn't because he had strong characters around him willing and able to dissuade his worst tendencies.   

'Would firing Mueller be obstruction?  No, not legally but impeachment isn't necessarily about leagalities, congress can impeach a president for what ever reason they deem worthy of impeachment but the price may be very high. 

Would impeaching Trump for thinking about firing Mueller be a good move for democrats?  LoL, no it most definitely would not.  First of all you'd never get 67 senators to vote for removal because a president had bad thoughts so you'd accomplish nothing constructive.  Second, it would inflame the republicans and centrists in those purple staes and almost guarantee that those newly elected congressional representatives from those purple states would be looking for jobs in 2021. 

Will they vote to impeach?  I have no idea but the nearly psychiotic hatred the left has for Trump is truly out of control now that Mueler has accomplished nothing for them and that wounded bear has to be fed with something.  This rollercoaster ride is not over and Trump constantly needling the left over the dud that was Mueller may just tip them over the edge.  

[Jerry Gallo]

The subterfuge over the report is not surprising. We know for a fact that the report was always about collusion in the eyes of the public and Mueller let that notion stand for 2+ years. Then he turns in a report that instead of saying "there was no collusion", it says "well, we really weren't looking for collusion, but we have the appearance of this". This is pure political spin. 

Then the report goes on to plant conspiracy and obstruction in the minds of those foaming at the mouth for collusion, who will accept obstruction, conspiracy or parking tickets to get the guy out of office. Thus, Mueller goes on to state "if we had confidence Trump didn't obstruct justice, we would so state" and that has the left and Trump haters buzzing in their nether regions. If any one of those folks had any courage, they would note unequivocally that after two years of special investigation, the best they could come up with as a conclusion is "we know many of you hate Trump for various reasons, so here's your nugget of hope, even though dammit, we could not find one piece of evidence that proves one ounce of criminal obstruction or conspiracy." Not one statement in the entire report that said "Trump obstructed and here is that evidence". It's supposition, innuendo, attempts to read into what folks said and did in hopes of carrying on a notion of guilt in the minds of voters.

Is Trump guilty of poor looking optics? Sure! Is Trump socially clumsy, which when combined with world class arrogance, causes him to say some pretty unbecoming things? Of course, he's done it his entire life. Did some people paint outside the lines in an attempt to squash a manufactured witch hunt because of the bad optics and silly statements, absolutely, that's what underlings do for their boss. Imagine any one of us being the focus of a special federal investigation where the top guy leads the public to believe we are guilty of something that two years of investigating couldn't prove enough to put it in writing.

Promise you this, I detest what some of you stand for and how you stand for it, but if our government ever put one of you through what they have put Trump through for two years to find no credible, chargeable violations and then left the door open for additional future scrutiny AND said inflammatory things based solely on their biased whim, I'd have your back in every conceivable way. I realize that doesn't mean much, I have no might in defending anyone. But I'd stand in your defense in spite of any hard feelings I might have because it's the right thing to so.

So, one of you, please show me there is hope for some minor bit of reconciliation between right and left, show me you actually seek compromise and not just your way. Have the courage to admit this was a complete waste of the public's time and the government's resources and move on to the 100 legitimate other things to hate Trump over. Thanks in advance!

   

[Gromdor]

4 hours ago, Merc14 said:

The big difference between you and me, Grommie, is that you haven't been right about any of this mess to date and I have.  Every prediction you have made was/is wrong and I have been right.  The report as was predicted, an incendiary POS that would fuel your anger for another few months while finding Trump completely innocent.  At what point does someone like you begin to question what they are being told?  It isn't just you, BTW, it is every leftist hater that has been led along this path for the last two years.  When do you begin to question the talking heads that have been so incredibly wrong?   Remember election night when you wre assured that Hillary could not possibly lose?   The next two years has been lather, rinse, repeat for you guys on the left yet you continue believing, why?

Odd, I don't remember making any predictions.  Usually I leave that to the fortune tellers.  The closest thing is maybe perhaps when I said Trump was too inept and unreliable to be an effective collusion partner.

I do question things though.  What Barr, Trump, and Sanders have said doesn't match the information in the report.  Another question would be, "Why is it every discussion you have is about the person you are discussing the topic with rather than the topic itself?"

[+Hammerclaw]

17 minutes ago, Helen of Annoy said:

 

Yes, yes, we noticed  There's only this itsy-bitsy tiny problem, you see, that your new 'allies' are in the alliances you're opposed to  

 

By the way, the Brexit failed. It was craptacular. I'm still laughing each time it crosses my mind. Especially when I remember Orban (one of your supposed new allies) sitting at the round EU table like a good boy. Silent and unnoticeable. 

You should pay attention to that, what actually happens, not what Kremlin told you will happen.  

 

(I must also say I still can't believe someone could appear so lost, so uninformed, so unaware of history and current events, so illogical and so desperate, all in just one short post. Bless your heart, you really should find a different hobby.) 

Oh, you poor benighted soul. Your ignorance shines like the sun, blinding you to what little truth filters through. You really should get your nose out of the pages of RT and those other Pravda clones. 

Edited April 22, 2019 by Hammerclaw

[Einsteinium]

On 4/20/2019 at 3:16 PM, hacktorp said:

Ridiculous, yes.  Ridiculous that they thought they would get away with it.

It was, without question, an international conspiracy:

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You know who else was in London on May 6th (the day Mueller says the “investigation” launched) besides the DIA guys and Alexander Downer’s wannabe honeypot, Erika Thompson?Bill Priestap, Peter Strzok’s direct boss. The FBI/CIA was colluding with Australia to create a fake pretext

Why in the heck would I believe George Papadopoulos over the FBI and others?

You are asking me to suspend all logic and reason. I just can't do that.

[+Hammerclaw]

2 minutes ago, Einsteinium said:

Why in the heck would I believe George Papadopoulos over the FBI and others?

You are asking me to suspend all logic and reason. I just can't do that.

You've been doing it for over two years. Don't stop now.