+Hammerclaw Posted May 21, 2019 #1251 Share Posted May 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Tatetopa said: That goes too far. No person grounded in reality would risk or suggest that. Seriously? I personally know people firmly "grounded in reality" hoping it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatetopa Posted May 22, 2019 #1252 Share Posted May 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Hammerclaw said: Seriously? I personally know people firmly "grounded in reality" hoping it happens. The disruption and damage from an event like that would not be inconsequential to our country nor end quickly. I suppose you could be grounded in reality and still be a sociopath or dystopian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted May 22, 2019 #1253 Share Posted May 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tatetopa said: The disruption and damage from an event like that would not be inconsequential to our country nor end quickly. I suppose you could be grounded in reality and still be a sociopath or dystopian. Yeah and imagine the political consequence of an unsuccessful attempt or wounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted May 22, 2019 #1254 Share Posted May 22, 2019 9 hours ago, Tatetopa said: That goes too far. No person grounded in reality would risk or suggest that. Some of us just recognize it for common sense. Or do you not remember Congressman Scalise? What the 5th column and the Left have been attempting is nothing less than a coup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted May 22, 2019 #1255 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Pelosi is holding a closed meeting tomorrow morning to discuss impeachment. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mounting-pressure-pelosi-hold-emergency-impeachment-meeting-wednesday/story?id=63178175 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted May 22, 2019 #1256 Share Posted May 22, 2019 47 minutes ago, susieice said: Pelosi is holding a closed meeting tomorrow morning to discuss impeachment. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mounting-pressure-pelosi-hold-emergency-impeachment-meeting-wednesday/story?id=63178175 Wonder if it's related to this in any fashion: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rex-tillerson-secretly-meets-with-house-foreign-affairs-committee-to-talk-trump/ar-AABH8gu?li=BBnb7Kz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted May 22, 2019 #1257 Share Posted May 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Gromdor said: Wonder if it's related to this in any fashion: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rex-tillerson-secretly-meets-with-house-foreign-affairs-committee-to-talk-trump/ar-AABH8gu?li=BBnb7Kz Yeah, I'm SURE that THIS time, you've "got 'im" 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Wearer of Hats Posted May 22, 2019 #1258 Share Posted May 22, 2019 4 hours ago, susieice said: Pelosi is holding a closed meeting tomorrow morning to discuss impeachment. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mounting-pressure-pelosi-hold-emergency-impeachment-meeting-wednesday/story?id=63178175 A secret meeting in order to topple the President? Smells like treason. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromdor Posted May 22, 2019 #1259 Share Posted May 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Sir Wearer of Hats said: A secret meeting in order to topple the President? Smells like treason. Now, now. According to Trump Jr's lawyers, treason can only be committed in a time of war. https://www.gq.com/story/treasonsplainer 4 hours ago, and then said: Yeah, I'm SURE that THIS time, you've "got 'im" Well he does make it easy. Having his own (former) personal lawyer testify before congress that he committed bank fraud and supplying paperwork, going on TV and asking for Russian hacking help, stonewalling at every opportunity after a 200 pages of report saying he obstructed justice.... And that's just a fraction of what he has done. If half of his associates are being ordered not to testify and the other half only say bad things about him, it doesn't really make him look good. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoofGardener Posted May 22, 2019 #1260 Share Posted May 22, 2019 31 minutes ago, Gromdor said: Now, now. According to Trump Jr's lawyers, treason can only be committed in a time of war. https://www.gq.com/story/treasonsplainer Well he does make it easy. Having his own (former) personal lawyer testify before congress that he committed bank fraud and supplying paperwork, going on TV and asking for Russian hacking help, stonewalling at every opportunity after a 200 pages of report saying he obstructed justice.... And that's just a fraction of what he has done. If half of his associates are being ordered not to testify and the other half only say bad things about him, it doesn't really make him look good. Actually, that's just a fraction of what he has NOT done. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted May 22, 2019 #1261 Share Posted May 22, 2019 I'm pretty sure we are in an official time of war. I think it's a perpetual state. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted May 22, 2019 #1262 Share Posted May 22, 2019 The really pathetic aspect of these continual "gotchas!" is that they still believe they'll work. SMH. TDS is real... who'd a thunk it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted May 22, 2019 #1263 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Here's the results of the meeting. Pelosi is still urging investigations and it seems most Democrats agree. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mounting-pressure-pelosi-hold-emergency-impeachment-meeting-wednesday/story?id=63178175 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vorg Posted May 22, 2019 #1264 Share Posted May 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, susieice said: Here's the results of the meeting. Pelosi is still urging investigations and it seems most Democrats agree. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mounting-pressure-pelosi-hold-emergency-impeachment-meeting-wednesday/story?id=63178175 William Barr was a highly respected ex AG and current AG in the eyes of both parties who cleared President Trump of any wrongdoing based on the Mueller report, and who has now lost the respect of the Democratic congress for doing so. It was his job, not congresses to make that judgment. Rod Rosenstein signed to start the investigation, and he also cleared President Trump of any wrongdoing based on Bob Mueller's report. He also, has lost the respect of the Democratic congress for doing so. If either of these top two Justice Department officials had seen any sign that President Trump was a serious threat to the constitution, I am positive they would have taken action. All the above is "political." 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+and-then Posted May 22, 2019 #1265 Share Posted May 22, 2019 5 7 minutes ago, South Alabam said: William Barr was a highly respected ex AG and current AG in the eyes of both parties who cleared President Trump of any wrongdoing based on the Mueller report, and who has now lost the respect of the Democratic congress for doing so. It was his job, not congresses to make that judgment. Rod Rosenstein signed to start the investigation, and he also cleared President Trump of any wrongdoing based on Bob Mueller's report. He also, has lost the respect of the Democratic congress for doing so. If either of these top two Justice Department officials had seen any sign that President Trump was a serious threat to the constitution, I am positive they would have taken action. All the above is "political." And this is barely the beginning. I predict mass media hysteria as the first indictments are reported. "Constitutional crises" plural and a general refrain of "the sky is falling!" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robotic Jew Posted May 22, 2019 #1266 Share Posted May 22, 2019 1 hour ago, and then said: The really pathetic aspect of these continual "gotchas!" is that they still believe they'll work. SMH. TDS is real... who'd a thunk it... If TDS is real it's just in direct response to years upon years of CDS and ODS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Hammerclaw Posted May 22, 2019 #1267 Share Posted May 22, 2019 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DieChecker Posted May 22, 2019 #1268 Share Posted May 22, 2019 2 hours ago, susieice said: Here's the results of the meeting. Pelosi is still urging investigations and it seems most Democrats agree. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mounting-pressure-pelosi-hold-emergency-impeachment-meeting-wednesday/story?id=63178175 From the article.... Quote The aides downplayed the growing calls for impeachment – now topping 26 lawmakers – as a minority view among 235 members. Growing, but still just a handful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted May 22, 2019 #1269 Share Posted May 22, 2019 51 minutes ago, DieChecker said: From the article.... Growing, but still just a handful. Sorry. I meant to say disagree but was typing faster than I was thinking. Yes, Pelosi did get the most support although the other Democrats are getting very vocal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExpandMyMind Posted May 22, 2019 #1270 Share Posted May 22, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, F3SS said: I'm pretty sure we are in an official time of war. I think it's a perpetual state. You haven't been in a Congress-declared war since WW2, which is why the last person convicted of treason by the US was Japanese. You can also be convicted of treason for attacking the US or aiding an enemy who does so when not in war, but within the definition it only extends to acts which result in physical attacks against the government. I think the Miner Strikes in the 20s was the last time that was applied. Anyone claiming that the Dems, acting completely within the boundaries of the laws that govern your country, could be accused of treason is an outright idiot with no concept of the meaning of the term. Trump only uses it to (successfully) stir up the ignorant amongst those who follow him blindly. Edited May 22, 2019 by ExpandMyMind 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted May 22, 2019 #1271 Share Posted May 22, 2019 2 hours ago, South Alabam said: William Barr was a highly respected ex AG and current AG in the eyes of both parties who cleared President Trump of any wrongdoing based on the Mueller report, and who has now lost the respect of the Democratic congress for doing so. It was his job, not congresses to make that judgment. Rod Rosenstein signed to start the investigation, and he also cleared President Trump of any wrongdoing based on Bob Mueller's report. He also, has lost the respect of the Democratic congress for doing so. If either of these top two Justice Department officials had seen any sign that President Trump was a serious threat to the constitution, I am positive they would have taken action. All the above is "political." I'm starting to think Pelosi may be realizing that what happens will start a precedent no matter who is unfortunate enough to become President. The floodgates are opened to constant investigations by the other party. She needs absolute proof and support from the Justice Department. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+OverSword Posted May 22, 2019 #1272 Share Posted May 22, 2019 15 hours ago, susieice said: Pelosi is holding a closed meeting tomorrow morning to discuss impeachment. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mounting-pressure-pelosi-hold-emergency-impeachment-meeting-wednesday/story?id=63178175 Judging by her public statements that meeting will be her telling other democrats to keep their mouths shut about it and stop getting the public riled up. This impeachment, should it happen, will be long process and frankly at this point would probably do nothing more than clear trump of any impeachable charges. She's playing the long game. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robotic Jew Posted May 22, 2019 #1273 Share Posted May 22, 2019 As a whole our political system is insanely broken. The cracks that once were bipartisanship have become open, seething, pulsating chasms. America as it once was is dying and we are witnessing the last ditch effort by all involved to cling onto the corruption inducing payday that being a government official has been. The country as a whole will either emerge stronger and better for this or it will crumble under the weight of it's own lack of ability to progress for the benefit of the common man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+susieice Posted May 22, 2019 #1274 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Trump came out to the Rose Garden to speak and media says he lied about the $35 million that the Mueller Report has cost. https://www.pennlive.com/nation-world/2019/05/trump-slams-mueller-investigation-again-in-surprise-rose-garden-speech.html?utm_campaign=pennlive_sf&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR3EAY5dkykmERc3gGfv5mVbVixIHahBFVWpkLx3XlJwMlcd4bGG2t5pCO8 However, it seems this time he may be right. http://time.com/5557693/mueller-report-cost/ And it seems it's still long from over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F3SS Posted May 22, 2019 #1275 Share Posted May 22, 2019 36 minutes ago, susieice said: Trump came out to the Rose Garden to speak and media says he lied about the $35 million that the Mueller Report has cost. https://www.pennlive.com/nation-world/2019/05/trump-slams-mueller-investigation-again-in-surprise-rose-garden-speech.html?utm_campaign=pennlive_sf&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&fbclid=IwAR3EAY5dkykmERc3gGfv5mVbVixIHahBFVWpkLx3XlJwMlcd4bGG2t5pCO8 However, it seems this time he may be right. http://time.com/5557693/mueller-report-cost/ And it seems it's still long from over. I just heard it on the radio and that's what they're grasping on? It's in the general ballpark we've been hearing about for some time now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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